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Old 01-17-2013, 06:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been an active member of eBay for many years now...I have recently run into a problem of winning buyers not paying for models they have won. Surprisingly all have high positive feedback scores too... They don't even respond to my messages inquiring as to what's going on?? When I win an item on eBay I pay within minutes of auction ending or if the auction ends during overnight hours , I pay first thing in am.... When i sell an item i send a message thanking them right away letting them know its boxed and ready to go?... i think 48 hrs is not unreasonable to ask for the money or too at least answer my inquiry as to where it is being shipped..

What really sucks is as a seller you can't negative feedback a buyer for failure to pay, just open a case against them.....

by the way two well know DACers here did pay for their 727 models!!! they are not the problem
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EBay transactions are definitely stacked in favor of the buyer, and the seller also bears the brunt of the cost of the sale - up to 15% if PayPal is used for payment. It's still the greatest world market with maximum exposure. Later, Doug
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Here in Belgium, Buyers are obliged to pay for the item within the next 3 days.
If not, Ebay automatically opens a dispute...

Is this only in Europe the case?
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my buyer defaulted in Portugal and the second chance buyer was in Poland..nice..
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Here in Belgium, Buyers are obliged to pay for the item within the next 3 days.
If not, Ebay automatically opens a dispute...

Is this only in Europe the case?
Maybe only in Belgium. Never experienced that on ebay.co.uk or ebay.de. Sellers have to file the cases, otherwise nothing happens.
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A Belgian seller once told me this...
He said that he could'nt extend the period for paying because Ebay automatically makes a dispute... Don't know if it is true...
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crownvic: my buyer defaulted in Portugal and the second chance buyer was in Poland..nice.."

I generally sell on the worldwide market, but on my next sale, I will block sales to Portugal and Poland - thanks for the heads-up. Later, Doug
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Yeah I hate it when buyers dont pay. I usually wonder if they're playing some kind of joke to waste your time or they're bidding on the same model in two separate auctions. They win both and only pay the auction with the lowest winning bid.
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As stated,Ebay is almost 100% in favor of the buyer. I really like the "funds pending" feature if they pay with Paypal. Not so much. In other words,the seller is up to no good,until proven otherwise.
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As a follow up,what are the chances this buyer payed????

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..... and so the reasons, among many, I don't sell on feeBay.
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I agree 100% with you! As soon as I win somthing its paid for with seconds. Yet most people who win mine dont pay for a number of days after winning? I get really pissed about it. Its so frustrating!!
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yes thats the sad part of ebaying !
thankfully it doesnt happen that often but there are a few [email protected]# about !

but you just have to do the usual proceedure of reporting a none paying bidder and if they dont respond with the payment within 7 days ebay refunds your fees etc and they get a none paying strike against there account ,

then i just relist the item and go to manage my bidders page and add them to my blocked bidders list .

but i do understand its totally out of order bidding and not paying !
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Personally i do not pay directly after i win an auction, however i will send out a message to the seller inquiring about other shipping options first , i do get annoyed when the sellers dont respond
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I haven't sold a single thing on Ebay in at least 5 years, right about the time that they decided that buyers were saints and that sellers were the devil whose wallets needed to be lightened up.
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I honestly don''t like ebay in general, its to easy to get scammed, but I have never used it so Idk. I rather use trusted sights to buy my models like Flyingmule, Justplane Fun, Airline Museum etc. I have never done a DAC transaction either so idk how it works. I am pretty new as you can probably tell.
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crownvic: my buyer defaulted in Portugal and the second chance buyer was in Poland..nice.."

I generally sell on the worldwide market, but on my next sale, I will block sales to Portugal and Poland - thanks for the heads-up. Later, Doug
BTW - is the "second chance" offer OBLIGATORY for the buyer to accept? I sell on ebay regularly, and as far as I know the rules winning bidder is OBLIGED to pay (at least - that should be) - but 2nd chance offer? It is an offer not that MAY or NOT be accepted. That is what I read in "local" ebay rules.. If 2nd chance accepted and not paid - different story..

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It's a sign of the times I guess! Too much B.S. out there!
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BTW - is the "second chance" offer OBLIGATORY for the buyer to accept? I sell on ebay regularly, and as far as I know the rules winning bidder is OBLIGED to pay (at least - that should be) - but 2nd chance offer? It is an offer not that MAY or NOT be accepted. That is what I read in "local" ebay rules.. If 2nd chance accepted and not paid - different story..
no its NOT obligatory for the '2nd chance offer' to be accepted. you make the offer available for 1-5 days i think. if they do not accept, you can offer to the 3rd bidder and so on down the list of bidders. i had 1 bidder from usa not pay a month or so ago on an item. only bid @ £14.99. so opened dispute. i re-listed it, and it sold for...........................£18.99!!
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On my first take I thought what the problem was with $ 152.50 ? Then I saw it was $ 1,525.00 !! ! Chances the buyer payed = 0


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Old 01-17-2013, 07:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Personally i do not pay directly after i win an auction, however i will send out a message to the seller inquiring about other shipping options first , i do get annoyed when the sellers dont respond
God, I hope you were joking. I've had idiot buyers like that a few times.
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The problem of buyers not paying (which has happened to me more than once) seems to have been getting worse and worse ever since ebay eliminated the possibility of giving negative feedback to buyers.

I had a problem with a buyer from Argentina recently. He bought an item that I clearly stated was for shipping to North America only. Honest mistake? No...... I checked out his feedback although his score was over 98%, you can clearly see that he makes a habit out of buying items that were not meant to be shipped to Argentina.

Anyways.... When I told him that shipping would be more expensive, he refused to pay... I filed a non payment dispute and lowered the price to his standard. He payed up. I sent him a partial refund... kept just enough to pay my ebay and paypal fees... He hasn't contacted me since and hasn't left negative feedback.... yet...
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Personally i do not pay directly after i win an auction, however i will send out a message to the seller inquiring about other shipping options first , i do get annoyed when the sellers dont respond
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God, I hope you were joking. I've had idiot buyers like that a few times.
Indeed. Any inquires about the item or shipping need to be made before placing your bid. Only hold off on paying if the seller requests that you wait for an invoice prior to paying.

There are a lot of problems with eBay, but the feedback system is the biggest of them all. Deadbeats too. You actually have to read the bidders feedbacks left by previous sellers to identify the scam artists and deadbeats because they will invariably have "100% Positive" feedback. Fixed price listings - and even auctions with the "Buy Now" option - will help block the deadbeats if you check "require immediate payment".

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I honestly don''t like ebay in general, its to easy to get scammed, but I have never used it so Idk. I rather use trusted sights to buy my models like Flyingmule, Justplane Fun, Airline Museum etc. I have never done a DAC transaction either so idk how it works. I am pretty new as you can probably tell.
You should get an eBay account if you're gonna be a fairly avid collector. Sometimes it's the only place you'll find an item that is no longer available at retail. 99% of eBay sellers are honest. Just check the sellers feedbacks(actually read them) before bidding on their items. It takes a couple minutes but it will save you from the scammers.

I never had a bad experience buying from DAC members. In fact I prefer it over eBay, all else being equal. If you buy from other collectors, you know the model has been cared for and what problems, if any, it has in advance. The retailers, as well as many eBay sellers, don't always inspect the model for QC issues before shipping.
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Indeed. Any inquires about the item or shipping need to be made before placing your bid. Only hold off on paying if the seller requests that you wait for an invoice prior to paying.

There are a lot of problems with eBay, but the feedback system is the biggest of them all. Deadbeats too. You actually have to read the bidders feedbacks left by previous sellers to identify the scam artists and deadbeats because they will invariably have "100% Positive" feedback. Fixed price listings - and even auctions with the "Buy Now" option - will help block the deadbeats if you check "require immediate payment".
Of course i will send the message after i bid but havent won the model, but sometimes even after winning the model i nv got an invoice nor a reply from the seller. That said i only have a handful of transactions on eBay, i have more transactions on DAC itself and i havent met an unfortunate incident.
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Of course i will send the message after i bid but havent won the model, but sometimes even after winning the model i nv got an invoice nor a reply from the seller. That said i only have a handful of transactions on eBay, i have more transactions on DAC itself and i havent met an unfortunate incident.


Just some friendly advice. By placing a bid, you're essentially agreeing to all terms of the auction, including shipping. You should really contact the seller before bidding if any of the terms in the auction aren't acceptable to you. If they don't respond - don't bid. Otherwise, if you do bid and win...they are under no obligations to work with you on shipping, etc and should you not pay, the hardass sellers will give you an "unpaid item strike".
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Just some friendly advice. By placing a bid, you're essentially agreeing to all terms of the auction, including shipping. You should really contact the seller before bidding if any of the terms in the auction aren't acceptable to you. If they don't respond - don't bid. Otherwise, if you do bid and win...they are under no obligations to work with you on shipping, etc and should you not pay, the hardass sellers will give you an "unpaid item strike".
Thanks, i will change the way i buy on eBay
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It's a shame that a few scammers are turning some of you guys off Ebay. I like Ebay as a buyer and as a seller. I've had a few bad deals that pissed me off but Canada Post insurance came through for me. My worst experience was from a buyer Kaylan81 that left me 2 negative feedbacks for no reason.
I've come to learn that the feedback score percentage is full of crap anyways, just read the positive reviews to decide.
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To be honest I dont think ebay is any different to other "markets". You can get both good and bad retailers in the same way as good and bad sellers on ebay. For me, ebay offer the opportunity to get a model at a good price not to mention hard to find diecasts.

Having said that, it does pay to shop around for the best deal... and yes sometimes I end up buying at retailers like Flying Mule.
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It's a shame that a few scammers are turning some of you guys off Ebay. I like Ebay as a buyer and as a seller. I've had a few bad deals that pissed me off but Canada Post insurance came through for me. My worst experience was from a buyer Kaylan81 that left me 2 negative feedbacks for no reason.
I've come to learn that the feedback score percentage is full of crap anyways, just read the positive reviews to decide.
If he's a deadbeat that simply marked his items as "payment sent" just to be able to post negative feedback and never actually paid - you can get those negs removed by eBay.
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Just some friendly advice. By placing a bid, you're essentially agreeing to all terms of the auction, including shipping. You should really contact the seller before bidding if any of the terms in the auction aren't acceptable to you. If they don't respond - don't bid. Otherwise, if you do bid and win...they are under no obligations to work with you on shipping, etc and should you not pay, the hardass sellers will give you an "unpaid item strike".
I recently bought a model from a seller here and i thought $22usd from hong-kong - uk was high but i was getting a good deal on a rare model so the cost plus shipping was still a good deal for me so i just mentioned it and paid up, The next day my model was shipped and excess postage refunded, Even though i wouldnt have complained, Thats good selling and patience here and other forums can find you almost any model that your looking for.

My plan forward is to only buy new releases and not go back avoiding expensive models that may eventually be re-released but i do sometimes check out ebay to see if theres any good deals at $10 or less and some times i get roped into a purchase.

Ebay gets you that rare model if your desperate and gets you a sale when your needing quick cash but heartbreaking when i do everything right and still sell my models for 10-12 quid.
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I generally sell on the worldwide market, but on my next sale, I will block sales to Portugal and Poland - thanks for the heads-up. Later, Doug
So because of two individuals who failed to pay for Cronvic's models within 48 hours, you as a seller are exempting these two countries? Sounds legit! Glad I don't live in either of those two Countries.
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So because of two individuals who failed to pay for Cronvic's models within 48 hours, you as a seller are exempting these two countries? Sounds legit! Glad I don't live in either of those two Countries.
not just me..I have a business partner who has been ripped off big time by a buyer in Poland, and Portugal..Im not sure if its a coincidence or if something is brewing in those countries..The problem of internet fraud has become a huge problem with former soviet block countries in particular not necessarily Portugal or Europe in general...I have sold and bought models from a well know DACer here from Portugal no problems at all...
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I'm gonna say it's a hit or miss on the Portugal, Poland is out of question here. You're just asking for trouble, dealing with Polish buyers anyway.

Hell, I've always thought Ebay is not worth the hassle, despite the worldwide exposure. I as a Seller now only do transactions with members of some Model Forums, Who has a good rep in either sides....
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I've been having the same problem, US buyers buying in the last min...you would think they would pay right then and there since they sniped the auction. Then 3 days goes by and no payment. Then I feel like a jerk and send them the invoice again just as a friendly reminder.
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Poland is a up-coming market considering many polish work in the uk and elsewhere in europe and are sending there hard earned money home to Poland. I have bought and sold to Poland several times and had no problems.

I have only been ripped off once and that was by a Turkish guy and due to one transaction i never deal with them again.

Rip off was only for $20 too.
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..... I've had several not-so-fun experiences selling on eBay (or feeBay)

..... One buyer in Australia insisted on surface mail shipment (how silly was I to even offer that?). After more than a month he wrote an e-mail that he never received it so I sent him another of the same model, at my expense, by air mail. No word for months, then about 3 months after the auction ended he sends me an e-mail "Ha ha. I got both models" Bastard! Of course after 3 months nothing I can do.

..... Another one dropped bids on about 4 or 5 models. After the auctions closed and she won them all she tells me she's having financial problems and can't pay. Then I looked and elsewhere on eBay she was buying all sorts of stuff (and paying). Yeah, I left some negative feedback on her.

..... Another time I sold stamps to this looser who asked if I could send them for free. What!!!??? The lot was about $2 and he couldn't cough up the 75c for shipping. He just sent the payment for the lot, not the shipping so I refunded.

..... Another time I sold a model that had just one bid. The guy asks me if I'd accept less for it. Why did he even bid? Truth be known if "best offer" existed at the time I might have accepted that, but not after he bid on it. Then he quibbles about the shipping. At least to his credit he eventually did pay (it was several weeks).

..... I had spine surgery in 2006. In my last auctions that would end more than a months before my date with the surgeon I explicitly stated in the auctions that I would have to have payment promptly so I could ship before I had the surgery. I had several buyers and all but one paid right away. The one that didn't finally paid a couple weeks after my surgery. I couldn't send it so I refunded him and told him why. He was the one that was POed.

..... And then just the ones that bid, win, never pay, never respond, never anything.

..... And now I don't bother selling on feeBay.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:14 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Other then these forums, what other choice is there for the exposure?? Again as a seller not being able to negative feedback buyer deadbeats stinks...my guess is that eBay got sued by a buyer over it...
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:29 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Lol...I'm having problems also...Sold something almost a week ago and no payment. Sent the buyer at least 5 messages on the 3rd and 4th day with no response. Had to open a case for no payment. Then you sill have to wait another 4 days to see if buyer does pay before you can close the case and relist item. So in all I've spent a total 13 days- 5 days orig. auction - 4 days to open a case - 4 days to close case - all for one item and one azzhole that didn't want to pay. O and I still have to relist the item. Ain't that some bull *****.
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Yeah I've been running into buyers who wait several days before paying. They usually don't pay until AFTER I've sent a reminder a couple days AFTER I've already invoiced them. What I don't understand is if the buyer clicks "Buy it now", they technically don't have to submit credit card or payment billing info until a later date. My opinion - ebay needs to require buyers to submit payment IMMEDIATELY if they are going to use the "BUY IT NOW" function. Just sounds like common decency to me. Maybe common decency is what most people are lacking these days...Sigh
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Yeah I've been running into buyers who wait several days before paying. They usually don't pay until AFTER I've sent a reminder a couple days AFTER I've already invoiced them. What I don't understand is if the buyer clicks "Buy it now", they technically don't have to submit credit card or payment billing info until a later date. My opinion - ebay needs to require buyers to submit payment IMMEDIATELY if they are going to use the "BUY IT NOW" function. Just sounds like common decency to me. Maybe common decency is what most people are lacking these days...Sigh
You probably already know this, but it's worth reiterating - if you do fixed price listings, or even auctions with a "Buy Now" option, you as a seller can require immediate payment. But I'm with you - eBay should require immediate payment on all "Buy Now" purchases. There is absolutely zero justification for a buyer to navigate away from the pay screen after clicking "Buy Now". Totally inexplicable and inexcusable. I mean, how many people go into a grocery store or a department store and pick out a bunch of stuff and then when it's time to check out..they just leave the crap on the floor and walk out without paying. Not too many.
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Neilc and Iron I agree with both you guys. I know when I bid on or buy something, I do so knowing that I have the funds available and I'm going to pay right away. I have never bought an item and waited more than a half hour to pay for it, it's just common courtesy. And the other thing that pisses me off, your waiting for the buyer to pay and see they've bought AND PAID for other item since yours. .
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To build on my earlier posts,when I bid and win,I pay within a few minutes. I usually get an Email from the seller,thanking me for my payment. It is often worded in such a way,that they are almost surprised that I did pay? This is a big problem. I feel it started to get out of hand when,as I said earlier,Ebay became heavily in favor of the buyer. Now of course we have a few sellers that are less than honest,but do you need to assume that everyone is????
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..... I've had several not-so-fun experiences selling on eBay (or feeBay)

..... Another time I sold stamps to this looser who asked if I could send them for free. What!!!??? The lot was about $2 and he couldn't cough up the 75c for shipping. He just sent the payment for the lot, not the shipping so I refunded.
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I have had multiple issues with eBay as of the last few months. I am also unemployed, so sales are sometimes critical to me to pay a bill or feed my kids.
The first was a buyer that would not pay for several day. EBay rates sellers on how fast they post the tracking information, so a late payment hurts the seller now. The person did pay but darn I hate waiting three or four days to see as well WHEN they don't pay, the bureaucracy to get the fees credited back is a pain.
EBay contacts the buyer to confirm if they did make the purchase. Then you jump through pms back and forth to confirm you have not had a payment. With paypal and eBay linked and showing on the sellers page no payment, there is no reason to make the seller confirm multiple times they have not received the payment. Then wait a few more days as well sometimes pay for the fees due to the timing of the monthly sellers payments and get a credit in return. I want my money back, not a credit.
I sent out an item the other week and it arrived damaged according to my buyer. No damage to the shipping box, no damage to the inside box but the person noted there were broken parts inside, rated me immediately negative saying my packing was at fault and then demanded an instant refund and payment for shipping back. I had to go through multiple e-mails back and forth, then mediation through eBay which of course cited with the seller despite photos showing the item boxed intact and no damage claim via the USPS. I loose the shipping there, will get a damaged piece back and basically be out the cost of a newer HM model.

I won't ship out of the US anymore. Just too many that say it did not arrive or it arrived damaged. Then you get those that don't ship back or ship a rock back. EBay protects them and you get screwed. This latest case has made it where I will never sell an aviation model on eBay again. I am backing off my eBay sales as well. Between the fees and losses like this, it does not pay to sell via them anymore. I will look to stick more to hobbyist boards and forums if I am going to sell anymore in the future and then only domestically.
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WOW!

I once thought of becoming a Seller on eBay to thin the heard and make way for new releases but after hearing the horror stories you fellas have had to go through for this and that, no thanks! I see the age demographic of the members here on D.A.C and most of us grew-up in an era of respect Its truly sad and unfortunate that folks totally lack integrity these days.

If you don't have the dough, then don't bid, its just that simple!

I feel like I'm walking into a Wal-Mart everytime I log onto SleezeBay these days. Although, sometimes it's the only way to locate that rare bird that a fellow collector is off-loading. I have a few Sellers and specific searches saved to target certain models and hopefully the honest Sellers won't become so discouraged by the deadbeats to the point of hanging it up.
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WOW!

I once thought of becoming a Seller on eBay to thin the heard and make way for new releases but after hearing the horror stories you fellas have had to go through for this and that, no thanks! I see the age demographic of the members here on D.A.C and most of us grew-up in an era of respect Its truly sad and unfortunate that folks totally lack integrity these days.

If you don't have the dough, then don't bid, its just that simple!

I feel like I'm walking into a Wal-Mart everytime I log onto SleezeBay these days. Although, sometimes it's the only way to locate that rare bird that a fellow collector is off-loading. I have a few Sellers and specific searches saved to target certain models and hopefully the honest Sellers won't become so discouraged by the deadbeats to the point of hanging it up.
If eBay was smart, which they are not, they would start booting the scumbags off. They should not only bring back to ability to neg a deadbeat - they should use a three strikes and out policy to get rid of them. Three 'unpaid strikes' within a specified time period or number of transactions - and you(as in your name + your shipping address), your IP address and your credit card all get booted, blocked and banned from PayPal and eBay...for good. To get rid of the scammers, just make the feedback system count for something. If your feedback drops below a certain threshold(or have x number of negs in a specified time period), same thing happens as above. If they did this, eBay would rock. But they won't. In eBays and PayPals eyes, sellers are the scum of the earth and buyers are angels.
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Well, when I place a bid, I usually pay the model won within 2 or 3 days (I rarely sell my models on ebay, because brazilian postal fees are very high and it's better for me selling my duplicate models here for a bit higher price).

As a buyer, I had a problem with a seller 2 or 3 years ago!

Unfortunately the time limit for a claim is too short for orders from Brazil (some parcels can spend up to 3 or 4 months to be delivered), so, I rarely opened a claim if an order spends more than 60 days.

Fortunately most of ebay sellers I've been placing orders since I begun my collection are reliable (my favourites are shoporiental, virginfans, johanchan2004, demographer_x, 6betts, pschulhaus and poppycock808 - I also bought lots of models from marrsinc, but unfortunately they don't sells models anymore). I had two parcels from shoporiental lost by postal services, but they send me the lost models again without any cost.

The single bad case was an order placed to an ebay guy from Miami. I've won a bid for an Iberia A340-600 model, it didn't arrived within the 60 days and I send him some messages. No answers from him, and no more time for a claim!
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