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Old 06-18-2007, 12:37 AM   #51
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Thanks for the pics! Man it looks great. I'm going to go over to the local hobby shop tomorrow and see if they have everything I need for painting. Kai, you and me need to touch basis on how you did this model b/c this ANA 773 will be my first.
hehe alrite. brad taught me everything i needed to know though. this model has his name all over it =P

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thanks brad! all from your coaching! hopefully it will get better and better!
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thanks man!
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Kai, I stopped by the local hobby shop 2day and got some Tamiya paint. its J.N. Grey. Is that what you used?
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uh JN gray is like military gray...should work i suppose if you mix it with white, gotta test it to be sure though.

i have tamiya Sky Grey and Gunze Sangyo Aircraft Grey.
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John, do you go to TSG hobby store?
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uh JN gray is like military gray...should work i suppose if you mix it with white, gotta test it to be sure though.
yay.......looks like back to the store 4 me. Oh well, i'll try mixing it.

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Did you mix it? Sry for all the ?s. Its just that its my first kit. The guy at the hobby shop told me the less expensive airbrushes are, the less better they are. Is this true? Once again, Sry.
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i think the cheaper the airbrushes are the shorter they will last and the less accurate they are.

i only mixed tamiya white with tamiya sky grey. i didnt even open my bottle of aircraft gray
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As a note, J.N. Grey will come out a little bit green, just FYI.
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Awsome! I can't wait to get mine in standered livery! Should look sweet!
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good luck and take your time!
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Hey guys,my ANA came today, and I was wondering whether I should plug up the windows and just put the decals on, or leave them open.
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thats your call. i covered them up so i wouldnt have to poke holes in the decals and risk tearing them. it takes alot more work though to plug them up as you will need a backing. for this ana i just plugged them up without a backing but its harder because putty could fall right into the fuselage.
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OK thanks, and one more ? for now: Did you use super glue to glue everything on?
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no. testors non-toxic cement. super glue does not melt plastic together for the strongest hold you can get. with ONE exception: when you have painted over a surface already and try to glue something onto it with cement it wont work as well as super glue. i used super glue for the wing join as i had already painted the wing root on the fuselage and the cement couldnt melt the plastic together.

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An easier way to plug windows is to take toothpick and put elmers glue in the windows after you paint it. It will dry clear and give it a real 'look' to it.
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An easier way to plug windows is to take toothpick and put elmers glue in the windows after you paint it. It will dry clear and give it a real 'look' to it.
The only problem is after I put the decals on, I don't know how to poke through the decal to the window. Should I use like a pin or something?
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Just a quick question on what type of paints and clear coat you used? Were the pints flats? Thanks. Patrick
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only the black for the tires were flat. everything else, the grays mostly came out flat but tamiya didnt label these paints as flat. the white parts of the plane is pure primer, i didnt bother coating it with white.

clear coat was a floor polishing acrylic called Future.
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The only problem is after I put the decals on, I don't know how to poke through the decal to the window. Should I use like a pin or something?

John, you dont have to poke thrugh the window! If you fill the window and then sand it down flat, the decal will sit flat on the model.
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only the black for the tires were flat. everything else, the grays mostly came out flat but tamiya didnt label these paints as flat. the white parts of the plane is pure primer, i didnt bother coating it with white.

clear coat was a floor polishing acrylic called Future.
Ususally Tamiya has a system for labelling paints. Is the paint number in XF-** it is usually flat. Before painting, you could test the paint on a piece of the sprue to see if it is gloss or flat, and if it is flat, you could also add some clear gloss to the flat to help so that it will be more glossy than just pure flat.
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Ususally Tamiya has a system for labelling paints. Is the paint number in XF-** it is usually flat. Before painting, you could test the paint on a piece of the sprue to see if it is gloss or flat, and if it is flat, you could also add some clear gloss to the flat to help so that it will be more glossy than just pure flat.
well either or, flat or glossy paint, i still glossy coat it at the end so it really doesnt matter.
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Glossy paint makes the model looks more diecast I think? And matt type paint makes it more realistic? I don't know. But hey, have you guys seen anyone going ultra hard-core detail on their plane models? I'm saying with every fume, dirt, line detail on the fuselage etc just like real planes.
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Do you mean like brad and zubarts work?
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Glossy paint makes the model looks more diecast I think? And matt type paint makes it more realistic? I don't know. But hey, have you guys seen anyone going ultra hard-core detail on their plane models? I'm saying with every fume, dirt, line detail on the fuselage etc just like real planes.
well the last Future coating really covers any glossiness the original paint had. I think Future is glossy but not as glossy as non flat paint
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kaitanium, niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice work! i am loving every bit of it man!!!

one question, is it me? or my eyes deceiving me? your doors seem bit YELLOWish? is that on purpose? or decal color bit off? i have no clue!
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yea the doors were yellowish. it was the decals. i dont know if decals are supposed to be tad bit yellow. but its cool
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[quote=kaitanium;512976]yea the doors were yellowish. it was the decals. i dont know if decals are supposed to be tad bit yellow. but its cool[/quote


Decals have a bad habbit of yellowing over time; especially if they were stored in a damp area. There are fixes for light yellowing. I am currently working on the Hasegawa AMK 737-500, and those decals were yellowed from being stored in my basement. I fixed it by taping the decals in my car window for a day while at work. The sun bleached out the yellow color. I don't think the sun will work on all yellowed decals, especially those that have Hard yellowing, but it should help a bit.

Just my 2 cents. Patrick
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Just my 2 cents. Patrick
hmmm....maybe I should give that a try w/ my next ANA.......When I got mine, the words ANA on the tail were a bit yellowed, but the extra ANA words were completely yellow. A little lighter though than this guy ---->
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yea the doors were yellowish. it was the decals. i dont know if decals are supposed to be tad bit yellow. but its cool[/quote


Decals have a bad habbit of yellowing over time; especially if they were stored in a damp area. There are fixes for light yellowing. I am currently working on the Hasegawa AMK 737-500, and those decals were yellowed from being stored in my basement. I fixed it by taping the decals in my car window for a day while at work. The sun bleached out the yellow color. I don't think the sun will work on all yellowed decals, especially those that have Hard yellowing, but it should help a bit.

Just my 2 cents. Patrick
really? i thought the sun was the culprit to yellowing? interesting it would take out the yellow!
oh well, my slight yellowing doesnt bother me at all.
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really? i thought the sun was the culprit to yellowing? interesting it would take out the yellow!
oh well, my slight yellowing doesnt bother me at all.

I thought so too, but if you think about it logically the sun over time will bleach colors. If you've ever re-painted a wall and took off pictures that were there for years, you might notice the walls are darker behind the picture, or if you leave a piece of colored plastic in the sun, you might notice it'll be lighter over time. Just make sure as not to leave the decals in the sun for too long or you might dry them out enough to become brittle or you might bleach out the color too.
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I thought so too, but if you think about it logically the sun over time will bleach colors. If you've ever re-painted a wall and took off pictures that were there for years, you might notice the walls are darker behind the picture, or if you leave a piece of colored plastic in the sun, you might notice it'll be lighter over time. Just make sure as not to leave the decals in the sun for too long or you might dry them out enough to become brittle or you might bleach out the color too.
yea that part makes sense.
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The sun bleached out the yellow color. I don't think the sun will work on all yellowed decals, especially those that have Hard yellowing, but it should help a bit.

Just my 2 cents. Patrick

well, there was this DA.C member who was conducting this same sunlight testing on yellowed plastic model planes. i forget who, but i wonder how that went too...
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bleh, its not yellow anywhere to the point of unbearable, its rather unnoticeable anyways. all in all. i didnt have to shell out $100+ to get this model. and that makes me happy. after this project ill take a hasegawa kit over a hogan anyday. the satisfication is unbearable!
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