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Old 10-12-2021, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am back, I apologize if this model is a bit unusual and not really interesting for those who prefer Airbus or Boeing.
Simply, I am trying to complete my AF fleet, something more appealing and less French is on the back burner and will be ready vey soon ...

Successful aircraft built before, during and after WWII are rare.
This aircraft, the Caudron Goéland is one of them.

It was designed by Marcel RIFFARD, a well known French engineer who was involved in the design of racing planes for Caudron in the 1930s.
One of his aircraft was the only non US aircraft to win two national air races in the US, the Greve Trophy and the Thompson trophy in 1936, outperforming the other aircraft with more powerful engines, the secret was an exemplary aerodynamic design.

With its low drag, the Caudron Goéland powered by two Renault engines of only 220 hp was able of great performances.

The prototype flew in 1935, after the 1940 armistice France was invaded and controlled by Germany, this aircraft and some others were built exclusively for the Luftwaffe.

We don't know exactly how many Goélands were produced during the war but it is fair to say that between the first flight in 1935 and the end of production in the very late 1940s, about 1500 aircraft were built.
Some sources say that 1702 aircraft were made.
The truth should be between these two figures.

The original aircraft was subject to many modifications and improvements, dihedral of the outer wing panels to improve stability roll control, engines running in opposite directions to make the take off run more comfortable, more powerful engines and a few other refinements.

The information about the Simoun (or Simouns) delivered to AF before the war are very sketchy, misleading and would need to be confirmed.

My model is a Caudron C 445, one of the three aircraft F-OAYP, F-OAYQ and F-OAYR ordered by AF before WWII, they did not stay for long in the airline and I am not sure that the last two aircraft were delivered.
The only picture available of these aircraft is showing the F-AOYP.
This aircraft was sent to Damas in Syria where there was a strong French presence and was tested on the local network.
Back in France, it was not put into service, officially the Goéland was too small and AF did not really wanted this aircraft.

Meanwhile, the Spanish Civil War was raging.
The European countries agreed not to interfere in the conflict but the Nationalists received from Germany Messerschmidt 109s with their pilots, Russia sent Polikarpov I-16s to the Republicans and after obscure tractations, France sent this Caudron and some other aircraft to the Republicans.

After 1945 the Goélands were still produced they were intensively used by AF for the training of its pilots, the aircraft had no specific livery.

My model represents the F-AOYP delivered before WWII wearing a livery very similar to some of the AF aircraft at the end of the 1930s.
It might be the only one Goéland with this livery.

As usual with this kind of model, it was a one piece plastic casting, no landing gear, no propellers, no decals, a few details were added, Pitot tube, landing light (a pin head), mast on the top off the fuselage, at this scale we can't go too far, less is more.
Very happy with this model, it has joined my AF fleet, my tenth pre-war AF aircraft, all home made, I attach a picture showing all of them.

The model is much smaller than it looks on the pictures, close up pictures reveal defects that we don't see with a naked eye ...

Among my projects I have something with three engines and the TWA livery.
No, it is not a B 727 ...

Jean Pierre.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I so much envy your modelling skills!!!

What a beautiful bird, Jean Pierre.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nothing to apologize about Jean Pierre.
Personally I enjoy reading (your) stories about models that are out of the ordinary. The model looks great. I like the paint job on the wings, which is also present on one of your other models I see.
Its a challenge to put together such a small model. I guess the amount of details you can include also depends on the quality of your eyes...

Thanks for sharing your story and pictures with us. Reading about the history is half the fun i.m.o.

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Yes nice model.
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Such a feat of a fleet!

The Caudron is beautiful, I love it. Thanks for sharing the pics.
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That’s another of your gems Jean Pierre! A fascinating history too.

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Old 10-13-2021, 08:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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A very handsome model! Excellent as usual, Jean Pierre!
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Old 10-14-2021, 06:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Jean Pierre- A beautiful addition to your beautiful collection! - Danny
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Another superb model Jean Pierre. Thank you for posting the pics & the history of this aircraft.

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Thank you my friends for your kind words, I appreciate.

Jean Pierre.
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I’m a bit late to the party but thank you Jean Pierre for the photos of your magnificent models, the Goéland and your prewar Air France fleet. Shooting it on your touchpad was a very clever way of showing the small scale of the model. Your skill at tiny models is amazing.

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Old 10-19-2021, 04:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My Dear mate Jean Pierre,


I am also very late for the party sorry JP. No apologies are required by you JP, for such a brilliant thread. The educational material that comes with photos of your build, makes it's place in Air France's history and finds your model fitting into the most significant 1:200 Air France Collection on this planet. I congratulate you on these three things,your eyes, your patience, and finally your modeling skills. They all serve you very well.


Congratulations JP and I am looking forward to your next project.
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Dear JP,

We already briefly discussed it in a private email, but now also in the forum: what a great addition to your AF fleet. The level of detail compared to the euro coin is amazing. You write: "this model is a bit unusual and not really interesting for those who prefer Airbus or Boeing". I am convinced that every aviation enthusiast really enjoys such lesser-known gems and the rich history behind all those (almost) forgotten types. At least I do and the number of thumbs on this threat shows that there are many connoisseurs out there.
The quality of the build should also be praised. In my opinion it is professionally produced, at the level of smallworld or similar. Congratulations!

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