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Old 09-17-2021, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Decaling diecast models and...maybe clear coating?

I have newbie questions here:

If I am looking to add decals on top of a diecast model I own, and then want to make it look like no decals were added, what would I do? I have heard mention of clear coating so I assume that is the path to take? If so, I have further clear coat questions:

1. what clear coat is advised? is there a clear coat that can be applied without investing in anything fancy like an airbrush?

2. does the entire model fuselage need a layer of clear coat, or only the area where the decal is?

3. once clear coat is added, is that it? Or is there another step?

I know, I know, these are probably silly questions...but I really don't know anything, nor do I know where to start.

Thank you all in advance
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I have newbie questions here:

If I am looking to add decals on top of a diecast model I own, and then want to make it look like no decals were added, what would I do? I have heard mention of clear coating so I assume that is the path to take? If so, I have further clear coat questions:

1. what clear coat is advised? is there a clear coat that can be applied without investing in anything fancy like an airbrush?

2. does the entire model fuselage need a layer of clear coat, or only the area where the decal is?

3. once clear coat is added, is that it? Or is there another step?

I know, I know, these are probably silly questions...but I really don't know anything, nor do I know where to start.

Thank you all in advance
I have made over 100 custom model and created my own decals to complete them. Using available decal paper to use on a home printer you will always slightly notice the edges after they have been applied, but in answer to your questions,
1) Humbrol Clear Cote can help to minimise this.
2)I generally will coat the entire fuselage after applying the gloss Cote over the decals. Be aware that undiluted Humbrol Gloss Cote is fairly thick (similar to a gloss paint) and it will dry extremely quickly(in about 20 minutes), so apply sparingly in one pass. A second coat will help reduce the visibility of decal edges.
3)after applying gloss Cote no other step is necessary.

Decals purchased from specialist suppliers are generally thinner, so edges will be less visible, but they will need more care when applying.
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Old 09-19-2021, 12:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you modelmanGB! Does the cote get applied with a paintbrush? It would be a 1:200 747 fuselage so I have a lot of area to cover. Do I have to worry about brush marks or does it even out when it dries?
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Thank you modelmanGB! Does the cote get applied with a paintbrush? It would be a 1:200 747 fuselage so I have a lot of area to cover. Do I have to worry about brush marks or does it even out when it dries?
I use a wide model brush to sparingly apply the gloss coat as quickly as is possible. Any ripples that appear when applying should flatten out during the drying process. The finish will look exactly like the same as on the original model. Best to make a trial run on an old/scrap model to check how it looks.
This is a 1/200 that has been decaled and coated and it it is difficult to spot the decal edges.
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I use a wide model brush to sparingly apply the gloss coat as quickly as is possible. Any ripples that appear when applying should flatten out during the drying process. The finish will look exactly like the same as on the original model. Best to make a trial run on an old/scrap model to check how it looks.
This is a 1/200 that has been decaled and coated and it it is difficult to spot the decal edges.
Wow - it looks impressive! Thank you for the guidance. I don't have a scrap model to try it on though. Will have to scour the internet for one.
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One more thing - you mentioned Humbrol Clear Cote, but then refer to gloss cote. Just confirming that it is the same thing.
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One more thing - you mentioned Humbrol Clear Cote, but then refer to gloss cote. Just confirming that it is the same thing.
Yes they are the same thing. Also available in satin and matt.
If you need to you can thin it down with white spirit. I use a 50/50 mix.
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A friend of mine gave me some "micro sol" and "micro set", and told me to use it on decals. Would those items interact negatively with the gloss cote or the diecast model itself? Also, is the thinner a necessity for the gloss cote?
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A friend of mine gave me some "micro sol" and "micro set", and told me to use it on decals. Would those items interact negatively with the gloss cote or the diecast model itself? Also, is the thinner a necessity for the gloss cote?
I’m old school when it comes to applying decals and I’ve never used micro sol, so can’t offer any advice on using it.
Thinner is not necessary but neat gloss cote is fairly thick and needs to be applied sparingly and quickly. Also stir it well before using otherwise you may end up with a surface that remains sticky.
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I have used both microset and microsol but to be honest, I don’t think they make as much difference with a decal on a painted and sealed metal model surface as they might if building a plastic kit.

I some cases, microset seems to help with positioning when compare to just water, but not much, and only when I have had to repaint the part of the model under the decal.

Microsol might help if you have raised panel lines, but we don’t have too many of those on the fuselage tubes.
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