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Old 05-02-2020, 08:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1/200 Herald metal kit problem

Finally getting time to assemble a white meta kit of a HP Herald in 1/200.
Bought from Nick Webb Classic Airliners.
Tried emailing but no response.

There are 2 brass parts (for L & R total 4 pieces) I cant figure what they are.
In the picture the round parts on the bottom are wheel trims.
The top parts I don't have a clue?


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Old 05-02-2020, 08:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There are 2 brass parts (for L & R total 4 pieces) I cant figure what they are.
In the picture the round parts on the bottom are wheel trims.
The top parts I don't have a clue?
The 2 parts on the right are for the engine air intakes. The parts on the left could be for adding to the landing gear.
Not sure how they would fit. Good luck with the build.

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Found a pic of landing gear. Looks like the only similar shaped bits. Argosy
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The 2 parts on the right are for the engine air intakes. Not sure about the parts on the left. Could be for adding to the landing gear.

Good luck with the build.

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Thanks. Ah yes can see where the intake ones go.
Never built a white metal kit before. Will be BIA orange tail - early 1970s Gatwick.




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You did well. I had a go with one but found attaching the tail-planes very difficult. Also the split fuselage was a pain in the neck.
Had to use filler.

I thought it wouldn't be too difficult but the casting seemed to have a lot of parts.

Your efforts might inspire me to finish my one. Did you see Martin's (Small World) BAF one for sale at ARD?

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Used two part epoxy Araldite.
The tailplanes and fuselage needed supporting for 24 hours with occasional pressure to ensure they were fully inserted.
Those other bits need folding and looks like they go in forward part of wheel well. I am leaving them off.

Also just bought a white metal 1/200 Fouga Magister....


Did have a very nice Skyline BEA Herald - that went to pastures new and regretted ever since.


Ah just seen that picture from the back...


Update: Think i've sussed it. It is attached to the rear leg and bent round, will do later as not attaching gears until model finished.
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That’s going to be a cracker of a model when finished. I’m a great fan of the Herald. I have an original 1/72 one in HP house colours. It’s reg is G-APWA and has its original stand. I think the model dates from around 1959. Look forward to seeing your model in the BIA livery. BTW, if you’ve not seen it, the Avion Video DVD on the Herald is excellent.

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That’s going to be a cracker of a model when finished. I’m a great fan of the Herald. I have an original 1/72 one in HP house colours. It’s reg is G-APWA and has its original stand. I think the model dates from around 1959. Look forward to seeing your model in the BIA livery. BTW, if you’ve not seen it, the Avion Video DVD on the Herald is excellent.

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Thanks Neil
I actually have all the Avion DVD's can't get enough.
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Also just bought a white metal 1/200 Fouga Magister....

Did have a very nice Skyline BEA Herald - that went to pastures new and regretted ever since.

Update: Think i've sussed it. It is attached to the rear leg and bent round, will do later as not attaching gears until model finished.
So you got that Fouga Magister, was watching it & thinking about doing a yellow Luftwaffe version. Decided against as have so many
other projects to do!

Never got the Skyline/Sky Classic Herald so was pleased to see this kit come along. At least we know what do with those parts now!

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So this is turning into a build thread,


Air intakes and undercarriage trim added. In original picture above it should be higher? but is limited by where it folds round the lower part at the join with the front leg. Legs temporary fit with blutack. Note this was stuck with Gorilla Glue Gel.









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This Dart Herald is quite interesting.
Thank you for sharing pictures showing your progress.

A few words about the assembly of a white metal model kit.

I use some kind of synthetic metal which is used by some vehicle body repairers when they have to repair something which cannot be repaired.

You mix resin and metal powder, you have something which can be used as a putty or if it is fluid enough, as a glue with a brush.
That's what I used for my white metal HP 42, more interesting and showing the possibilities of this product, I managed to glue the vertical fins of my Bréguet which separated from the stabilizers.

You have five minutes to use the mixture, caution, the vapors are toxic.

This product or something equivalent is certainly available from your DIY store.

Who is the maker of the Fouga Magister ?
There was one among Chris Sayer's models.

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Guys im looking for a 1:200 Herald, prebuilt as my skills are lacking, been looking for a year, anyone know of any?

Just to make it more difficult, i need it in British Air Ferries scheme, or just plain white. Its to complement a 1980`s scene i have built of Southend Airport, plenty of 1:200 Viscounts !, but a Herald is essential, as this was the time i personally worked on them.

Any help would be welcomed.
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Guys im looking for a 1:200 Herald, prebuilt as my skills are lacking, been looking for a year, anyone know of any?

Just to make it more difficult, i need it in British Air Ferries scheme, or just plain white. Its to complement a 1980`s scene i have built of Southend Airport, plenty of 1:200 Viscounts !, but a Herald is essential, as this was the time i personally worked on them.

Any help would be welcomed.

Apart from the kit the only 1/200 Herald was by Skyline which is now marketed by Aviation Retail Direct. They have a Small World which is very limited edition and hand made. Very nice models if a bit costly.
You may have to wait as often made to order.
Are you on the FB Southend page?


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Thanks for the reply, i heard from the guys at ARD this week and they cant get the small world BAF one anymore Ironically its the one i wanted.


They are doing a BEA one soon but the wrong scheme for me.


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Your Southend airport build sounds very interesting. Any chance of a pic or two at some point? Flown from there a few times, mostly Carvairs and once on a BAF Herald. I have a Herald in 1/72, an original Handley Page company model dating from around 1958 to 1960, it’s in company livery, took me around forty years to find one, yes I really am that old! I really hope you can find that Herald, it’s out there somewhere

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If it doesn't have to be 1/200, Eastern Express have released a 1/144th scale plastic kit of the Herald - several on E. Bay with different decals.
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