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Old 02-01-2017, 04:32 PM   #1
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I'm in the process of creating a custom Pan Am 747-121, which is actually a cut away model. The model will display the "Billboard" livery of the 1980s.

I have a couple of questions I need answered, though"

1. What colours did Pan Am use, inside the aircraft, to differentiate the different classes of seating (Economy, Clipper, First Class etc.)? I have searched the net, but I need a definitive answer on this subject. There are many photos showing what appears to be red and blue alternating seats, in First Class. Other photos show a pale blue colour for the seats, with white headrest covers. The seats in Economy class seem to be a reddish orange colour, and at least one photo shows them as beige. Anybody know for sure?

2. What would the upper deck look like, in a Pan Am 747-121 in the early 1980s? I've seen some photos wherein it is configured as a lounge, with couches, and others where it has bucket type seats, and tables, like in a restaurant. Also, what colours were used on the upper deck?

I'd like this model to be as accurate as possible, so any definitive information, and even better photographs, would be appreciated.

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Old 02-01-2017, 05:26 PM   #2
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I hope you post photos of this when you're done.
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I'm sorry I can't answer your questions Patrick, but I can't wait to see the result, sounds like an awesome project. What scale will your custom be in?
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I will definitely post photos once the model is done. The scale is 1:144, and I'm using the old Revell SAS cutaway 747 model. I was going back and forth on what livery to use (original, bold, or Billboard) and have decided on the latter, because (due to the cut away openings) very little if any of the Pan Am logo will be visible on the left side. I'm still not 100% decided on that, though, because I love the cheatline running from one end of the fuselage to the other on the earlier liveries. If I can just nail down the interior colour schemes though; hopefully someone will chime in with some specific information.
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Will this help you at all? This guy went through great lengths to recreate the cabin of a Pan Am 747 for his restaurant. I believe he had been collecting Pan Am memorabilia for many years to finally put this together.

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Yes, thank you! I have actually been in correspondence with him, and he has kindly sent me a number of photos of the interior of Pan Am's 747s, which show exactly what I needed to see (the colours and the configuration). I can now begin work on the model. I will post photos when it is finished.

That "Pan Am Experience" dinner sounds like a lot of fun!
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Just an update to this thread, the model is about 80% finished. Painting of seats, bulkheads and floors is almost done, engines and wings are assembled and painted, exterior and interior of fuselage is painted. Just have to choose from several reg numbers/Clipper names, apply the decals, and will post photos. And then find some display space for her!
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Sweet! Let's see! Let's see!
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hah very cool I too am very curious hah!
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Almost done, decals going on. She will be N735PA, "Clipper Spark of the Ocean". Livery will be late 1970s, bold Pan Am titles.
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Looking forward to seeing it.
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This should help!
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Its finally done. I will post some photos shortly. Its very difficult to see the different seat colours in the different classes, but trust me they are there. The model kit (being 50-odd years old) presented some challenges, and the finished product isn't perfect. However, I'm particularly happy with the engines, as they look well weathered, as would be expected with an aircraft that had been in service (by the early 80's) for about a decade. The model is definitely a conversation piece. I need to set up a good photo spot, with adequate lighting.
Oh, and looking back at my 1st post in this thread, it was decided to go with late 70s-early 80's bold Pan Am titles and classic blue cheatline (as shown in my Avatar photo to the left), as the various openings on the left side of the model (to reveal the interior) made the application of the Billboard titles virtually impossible (there was no fuselage to mount them on). I like the bold title era best, anyway.
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I need to set up a good photo spot, with adequate lighting.
Something like this may give you very interesting filming opportunities....

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Its finally done. I will post some photos shortly. Its very difficult to see the different seat colours in the different classes, but trust me they are there. The model kit (being 50-odd years old) presented some challenges, and the finished product isn't perfect. However, I'm particularly happy with the engines, as they look well weathered, as would be expected with an aircraft that had been in service (by the early 80's) for about a decade. The model is definitely a conversation piece. I need to set up a good photo spot, with adequate lighting.
Oh, and looking back at my 1st post in this thread, it was decided to go with late 70s-early 80's bold Pan Am titles and classic blue cheatline (as shown in my Avatar photo to the left), as the various openings on the left side of the model (to reveal the interior) made the application of the Billboard titles virtually impossible (there was no fuselage to mount them on). I like the bold title era best, anyway.
Congrats! You should post it on some Pan Am Facebook groups. They would definitely enjoy it!
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