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Old 12-08-2015, 03:53 AM   #351
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Sorry about the silence on my end. Not actually working on the 777 currently (still intend to finish), but there's some exciting stuff in the works for the fall. That's all I can really say at this point
This kind of amazing work is impossible to do by a common model maker. Do you have blue prints of the actual aircraft ? I see no other way that one can make such intricate patterns of parts that are normally hidden from view within the shell of an aircraft or other components within the aircraft.
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I'm back to work on [this] plane! After almost exactly a year away, I'm picking up where I left off with the slats.

The slats obviously have to be completely synchronized in their deployment, and I was a bit uncertain about how to go about this... the wing isn't very thick to begin with, and at the wingtip it gets even thinner, so I had to find a mechanism that would miniaturize well. I also needed to successfully translate a spanwise push-pull motion into a chordwise push-pull to deploy and retract all the slats in unison.

The system I devised uses small strips of paper running along 90ŗ curved tracks to achieve this. As the video will show, the slats remain highly synchronized, even when they're far apart, so I think this will work well across the full length of the leading edge. I also think I'm gonna switch from using U-joints to using something like this to control the flaps, as this doesn't lose motion at the edges like the U-joints do.

Pics and vids below!

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This kind of amazing work is impossible to do by a common model maker. Do you have blue prints of the actual aircraft ? I see no other way that one can make such intricate patterns of parts that are normally hidden from view within the shell of an aircraft or other components within the aircraft.
Thank you! I don't have blueprints, but I do work off some technical documents (the training manual, mainly), plus a bunch of photos and videos. It ain't easy, lemme tell you...



Here you can see the curved tracks that translate the motion 90ŗ:



Here are the outboard slat track locations:


Here's the curved track before being covered:


Here you can see the curved pieces sitting in the track:


Completed test piece:







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Old 04-18-2016, 01:21 AM   #353
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GREAT to have you back on the DAC! manilaplane! Now, I have to go back through this thread and see all your spectacular work I've missed as well. Cheers! T7

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Old 04-18-2016, 03:41 AM   #354
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Looks awesome!

Out of curiosity how is the mechanism going to be operated once the wings are attached?
If the movement is outboard to extend the slats is there enough room in the raked wing tip to contain the mechanism so it doesn't slide out?

Once again, in awe of your ability and patience!
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:38 AM   #355
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Great to see you back on this project Luca! Looking forward to seeing more updates, and eventually the completed behemoth!
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Welcome back, it's great to have somebody like you on this forum.

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Old 04-18-2016, 05:29 AM   #357
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Thank you all so much! It's great to be back

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Out of curiosity how is the mechanism going to be operated once the wings are attached?
If the movement is outboard to extend the slats is there enough room in the raked wing tip to contain the mechanism so it doesn't slide out?
The controls for the slats, flaps and spoilers (and possibly the uplock for the main gear) will be accessed through some kind of panel in the wing skin, just outboard of the engine. Haven't decided if it's gonna be on the top or bottom of the wing.

The slat control track doesn't actually move that much—it's just 0.29" from retracted to fully-deployed, and it doesn't actually go the full span, so it won't protrude. The wing is so thin at the end that 2 of the 3 tracks for the outermost slat will be normal and the outermost one will just be a dummy.
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The slat control track doesn't actually move that much—it's just 0.29" from retracted to fully-deployed, and it doesn't actually go the full span, so it won't protrude. The wing is so thin at the end that 2 of the 3 tracks for the outermost slat will be normal and the outermost one will just be a dummy.
Ah awesome, thanks for the reply!
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:06 AM   #359
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Just found this thread and have read and watched from start to finish(so far). All I can say is "Wowwwwww"

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Old 04-18-2016, 06:44 AM   #360
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Looks like you were gone from the site as long as i was. I hope you don't burn out, but so far.
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Old 04-19-2016, 02:21 AM   #361
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Welcome back! Yay for more updates!
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:01 AM   #362
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wow the details of it is truly unbelievable.....#jaw-dropping
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Thank you all so much! It's great to be back
Welcome back ManilaPlane! So what is the rough estimate for completion of this model ... if I may ask? Or at least, how far along are you in terms of percentage-wise on the 777-300ER model? It appears in your video that the fuselage is complete so it's just the wings remaining correct? Obviously the wings are HIGHLY complex with all that you're sharing regarding flaps/slats, etc ...

Also, is this model going to be in a Boeing museum when completed? Because if NOT ... it SHOULD!!!

Great having you back ... now finish this sucker!
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Sorry to bring this up, but does anybody know what happened to this incredible model creator? It's been quite some time since his last post on the DAC. Did he ever finish this model? A curious T7
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:41 PM   #365
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Ok. I am now up to speed on the status of the model and it's builder. I wish him all the best going forward in his new career. Sad to see him leave the DAC; but happy for him in his new ventures. T7

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...50#post2270850
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:40 PM   #366
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Ok. I am now up to speed on the status of the model and it's builder. I wish him all the best going forward in his new career. Sad to see him leave the DAC; but happy for him in his new ventures. T7

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...50#post2270850
I'm actually still here! Haven't built anything for a while but I've been busy designing the slats and I should have an update soon Realize it's an agonizing wait but I do intend to get this model done!
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I'm actually still here! Haven't built anything for a while but I've been busy designing the slats and I should have an update soon Realize it's an agonizing wait but I do intend to get this model done!
hi luca, how are you doing...
take your time.. it crossed my mind that right now you deal with great challenge on designing the wings mechanisms, and that's why you haven't updated your progress, even on your youtube channel
but judging on how your working on the actuators, i believe you will overcome it sooner..

p.s. don't force yourself for the wing bending test
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This is simply ground breaking, I Guess this is how aircraft would of been designed if computers did not exist, perfect Math is key it does seem, Manilaplane your work clearly proves this respectivily
Holy crap! That are some major aircraft building skills Batman!

Did you use computers to plan this out or was this really by the use of math only and perfect measurements?

IF you would ever make a new one I would love to see you make a Queen of The Sky, a KLM Boeing 747-206B or something in that order but at scale 1:72, nice large scale with even more details, I guess that too may be a worthy challenge 8-)

And hey I really look forward to your thoughts bud and it's me Obi-Wan Kenobi from YT btw, just ya know man
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I'm actually still here! Haven't built anything for a while but I've been busy designing the slats and I should have an update soon Realize it's an agonizing wait but I do intend to get this model done!
Right On! Great to see your post that all is well with you! Totally understand you have several projects on the go and you have to spread the love/passion around for each model. I am a little bias towards the Air India B777 ; not that my username has anything to do with it.

I can speak on behalf of all the DAC members/collectors that have contributed to this amazing thread that we all look forward to that day when you roll out this beauty for DAC public viewing. Cheers and All the Best with your projects! T7
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Old 06-06-2017, 07:58 PM   #370
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Soooo, things have been running at a glacial pace with this project but I finally have a bit of an update—after months of work, I put together this slat test piece to make sure I'm not totally deranged and my designs aren't complete crap! Which it turns out they aren't, though I had to fix a few issues. I'll let the video and pics mostly speak for themselves.

A couple notes:
•The Krueger flap doesn't fully extend on its own, which is somewhat disappointing but not entirely surprising, given how small and complex it is. Good enough, though.
•There's a fair bit of resistance, as you can no doubt see in the video, so I'm hoping to find a way to lessen that in the final model, though it's by no means a deal-breaker.
•The slats, flaps and spoilers will be controlled via a panel in the underside of the wing.
•The inboard slats are pretty cool, because they don't just extend statically along a track, but rather rotate as they extend to keep them more level than the outboard slats. Imperceptible in the video but I had to build in the functionality anyway

As always, feel free to ask questions and I'll do my best to answer them! Not sure when my next update will be or when this project will be done, but progress is progress.


































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welcome back..now that you have achieved worldwide fame, may we ask what you have been doing lately??? Did Boeing hire you!
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Welcome back! Good to see you still working on the project! I have the same questions as crownvic above
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Thanks! Glad to be back!

As for what I've been up to, sadly nothing all that exciting... just the usual work/life stuff that seems to get in the way (and no, not working in any field remotely related to this model).
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How on earth is it possible that an gifted artist like you (yes you are) is not noticed by Boeings Advertising & Branding department? If I was responsible (I am not) I would hire you straight away and give you everything you need to do your thing. Whether someone is into aviation or not; your work amazes and inspires people. Thanks for sharing.

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A very big welcome back again and thank you for the great photos !!
Your Boeing 777-300ER is more like a miniature real aircraft than a model !
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Old 06-11-2017, 05:00 PM   #377
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OMG, I´m literally speechless...
This is beyond incredible...
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Have you calculated how many manila folders you have used to date?
Getting them all in the same colour must be challenging. There seems to be many different colours around these days so you essentially colour code certain areas - then again that might just look wrong.
Congratulations on a wonderful project. This is almost an architectural project in my opinion....
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Is that real ??? I can not believe my eyes !!! AMAZING
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Welcome back Luca !
It's great to see you are still working on this B773 ER, I am always looking forward on how you progress this piece of art man
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