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Old 12-28-2013, 12:34 PM   #151
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Hey guys—
Sorry about the lack of updates as of late, but I've been busy at work on the video of the painting process. Anyway, I'm almost almost done and anticipate it being released around midday tomorrow... so make sure to check back. The production value is an order of magnitude greater than anything I've done before Hopefully it will have been worth the wait!
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Hey MP ... no need to apologize to us laymen ... and artiste is entitled to take as much time as he/she desires ... looking forward to the results of your labor!
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I’ll keep it short (for now), cause this video packs a punch. Listen with headphones (or good speakers?) if you can, it makes it even better!



Getting this done was draining to say the least, so I’m gonna hold off on posting pics for a few days.

Enjoy! (And happy holidays!)

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Video of the Year 2013!!!

Amazing, amazing work there, Luca! The painting process looks very much like how they do it with the 1:1, or is it? Can't wait to see the finished product

Ps. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Luca! Good choice on the music
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Video of the Year 2013!!!

Amazing, amazing work there, Luca! The painting process looks very much like how they do it with the 1:1, or is it? Can't wait to see the finished product

Ps. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Luca! Good choice on the music
Thanks!

The process definitely is similar to how it's done in real life, now that I think about it. I've always been fascinated by how full-size planes get painted and so it was interesting to actually try it myself on a smaller scale.

Glad you liked the music, and I realize that it's a bit of a crapshoot cause you can't please everyone, but it really was the perfect song for what I wanted to show.

Happy new year to you too!
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SIMPLY BRILLIANT WORK!!! I was drawn into the video from the start - that was a LOT of work to synchronize the music with the painting - but you did that impeccably!

Now we're waiting for the wings ... when do we get to see the WINGS?
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It's incredible how you can do this!!!
You are the best designer in the world I know of!!!
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Wow! I am truly floored. You really do have an amazing talent. I hope you're able to use that talent in some capacity in your professional life. Astonishing! I cannot wait to see the finished product. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.
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I'm speechless!!! That felt like watching a rollout of a 777! This masterpiece is incredible.
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I wish I had the words to do this justice.

I am stunned this is even possible. How on earth is the main body going to support the wings! If I had not seen this thread with my own eyes I would not believe it. Exceptional.
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Thank you guys!! Glad you've been enjoying the video, I know it's not like what I usually do and I was taking a bit of a gamble in some ways. Anyway, as for your questions...
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Now we're waiting for the wings ... when do we get to see the WINGS?
Here you go!!


Just kidding. That's one of the severely-warped old wings (trust me).

In all seriousness, that's the million dollar question. I'll be starting the design work soon, but it's daunting, so don't hold your breath. Let's just say it would be really nice to be able to finish this project by the summer.

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I am stunned this is even possible. How on earth is the main body going to support the wings!
It pushes the envelope in many ways (no pun intended), but cardstock is much stronger than you might think when you engineer it properly. The wings should be just fine if I design them sturdily enough

Here's a barrage of pictures to tide you over until my next post, which might not be for quite a while (progress on the wings will be very slow).

Initial round of tape to seal the body off for spraying. I was s**tting my pants because I thought the sides of the fuselage were going to get sealed shut, but it ended up being a non-issue.





Belly masking:






Fun with window stencils (chose a good airline, huh?):


Cheatlines (very difficult to establish relative "level" at first):


Titles:




Tail (it was all freehand, but it ended up being one of the most rewarding parts of the painting process):




Unfortunately this didn't work out


Somehow, this *did* work out:


I was so pressed for time/space in the video that I couldn't show this part of the process:




The video does this more justice:




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Great work !!!!! un believable .... keep posting new pic...
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This will be the all time most accurate and detailed airliner model.
It will become a priceless treasure.
You are a true genius !
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It will become a priceless treasure.
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That is true I agree,
however, a very gifted talented creative artist should also be warranted to Luca yes? Amazing talent. Well done Luca. I will enjoy watching this thread to completion
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Hey Luca ... being that the wings are so THIN in scale, I don't think ANYONE here would object to you using some kind of "stiffener" internally to reinforce the structure. Honestly, if you even used balsa or bass wood for such a purpose, while maintaining the external integrity of the Manila paper model, what harm would that be?

Obviously you, being the consummate perfectionist, would prefer to maintain a 100% "paper" plane, but the constraints of wing spars at such a scale might be prohibitively unfeasible in terms of strength for the longevity of the model - or even during construction. The wings may even "droop" over time if unsupported internally, or be too fragile during transport or display. Maybe not so, but I'm just offering my 2 cents worth.

I'm quite sure other followers of this thread might feel the same way. What you have accomplished to this point is WAY BEYOND mere mortals - a little balsa wood "here and there" wouldn't make the SLIGHTEST bit of difference in the big scheme of things. You're already a ROCK STAR modeler!

It'd be like saying Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire weren't GREAT hitters before taking steroids - but they CHEATED ... and you're NOT!

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This is a truly fascinating thread. Your skill is mind-blowing. I think somebody should forward a link to Boeing. They should give you a VIP factory tour, and a test flight in a real 777-300ER. When its finished, your model should be in an art or engineering museum.
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This is a truly fascinating thread. Your skill is mind-blowing. I think somebody should forward a link to Boeing. They should give you a VIP factory tour, and a test flight in a real 777-300ER. When its finished, your model should be in an art or engineering museum.
Amen to that!
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Hey Luca ... being that the wings are so THIN in scale, I don't think ANYONE here would object to you using some kind of "stiffener" internally to reinforce the structure. Honestly, if you even used balsa or bass wood for such a purpose, while maintaining the external integrity of the Manila paper model, what harm would that be?
Actually I'm not too concerned with the strength of the wings! The only reason the old ones are such a mess is cause once I decided I was no longer going to use them, I started poking and prodding at them until they eventually snapped. They're great for testing out the flap systems though. The new ones, however, should be really strong. Between the internal structure and the amount of glue I'll be using, I don't foresee a problem. I'll be using double-thickness folders for the wing box, so that should help too. If anything, I wish there were some way to make them flex a bit, like the real ones!

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Well, I sure wouldn't complain about that I've been meaning to make it up to Seattle to tour the factory... from everything I've seen in photos, it's a mind-blowing operation. Funny enough, I've only flown on a 777 twice (if my memory serves me) and both times were on a -200ER I have a vivid memory of seeing a BA 777 at the gate at SFO (it must have been a one-off sub) as a 10-year-old and stating that, seeing as there were only two engines, there was no way we'd ever make it to London. 4 Engines 4 Long haul, am I right?!?

Anyway, on a slightly different note... This is the first time I'm publicly releasing this many pictures, but seeing as there are some exciting things in the works in the next couple of weeks, it seems like a good time to share them. Since I probably won't be posting much for a couple months as I tackle the wings, perhaps these pics can tide you guys over. I have over 2500 pictures of the project, but I selected 240 to put online. Some I've already shared here, but there are a bunch that are seeing the light of day for the first time, including extensive documentation of the cabin furnishing process:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucaiaconistewart/sets/

There's one main set with all the pictures, and I've also broken them down into sections if you want to browse by category.

Enjoy!
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Surely when this is finished you can actually enter it in operational service for smurfs!!
I mean really, this model transends anything seen on this forum too date.
The seats are just crazy - I want to see you add operating IFE haha!!

Well done sir - very professional and top notch.
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thanks mp..
you really bring a dream to reality to a new level..
back when i was a kid, and i bet most of dac members did when they were kids, i used to play my toy planes by imagining, you name it, dwarves/minions/ gnomes/hobbits boarding it, and then i took it off to the air, and landed somewhere else..
by watching those pics, you really bring me back to that fantasy again, and i can see those minions are really happy to board your plane..

p.s. the crew rest module is completely stunning...
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Manilaplane,

Your work is one of a kind and I have never seen anything like this before. You have a gift that is out of this world. What are you planning to do with this plane once it is finished? This kind of project truly deserves to be in a high quality museum so it can be cherished by generations. DP
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Surely when this is finished you can actually enter it in operational service for smurfs!!
I mean really, this model transends anything seen on this forum too date.
The seats are just crazy - I want to see you add operating IFE haha!!

Well done sir - very professional and top notch.
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Thanks! I love seeing all the little screens haha. But don't give me any ideas—I had a hard enough time not making all the seats recline

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thanks mp..
you really bring a dream to reality to a new level..
back when i was a kid, and i bet most of dac members did when they were kids, i used to play my toy planes by imagining, you name it, dwarves/minions/ gnomes/hobbits boarding it, and then i took it off to the air, and landed somewhere else..
by watching those pics, you really bring me back to that fantasy again, and i can see those minions are really happy to board your plane..

p.s. the crew rest module is completely stunning...
I can completely relate! I definitely did the same, and I had a few plastic airplane models that I threw around a lot haha.

The crew rest is one of my favorite parts

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Your work is one of a kind and I have never seen anything like this before. You have a gift that is out of this world. What are you planning to do with this plane once it is finished? This kind of project truly deserves to be in a high quality museum so it can be cherished by generations. DP
I have no idea, I'm just trying to get it done as soon as possible! I just started the wing design process, and it's going to be a tremendous amount of work to get them done. Eeek!
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This is a truly fascinating thread. Your skill is mind-blowing. I think somebody should forward a link to Boeing. They should give you a VIP factory tour, and a test flight in a real 777-300ER. When its finished, your model should be in an art or engineering museum.
Both in Washington state and the headquarters here in Chicago. Also Alan Mutually and John Cashman has seen his work.
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Boeing's Seattle Museum is ideal resting place for your work, with your photo plaque. Once completed you should make a bid to them and ask for man hours times $50/hour to make some dough.

And then bid to do the same for Airbus and couple of middle east airlines. One of these sheikhs can easily throw good size money for such piece of art. With not much love for Air-India, I am sure they will bite and commission something even grandeur from you. Just don't double cross them

It is always a pleasure seeing your work.
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No words can describe this Superb, beautiful, amazing, all fall short of describing this work of art. I applaud you, sir. I just have a quick question: will the model get a full paint job or will you leave it as-is?
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OP,

Once done you can make a video and submit to Discovery Channel so they can make a film out of it. I hope your work will be in a major museum and I have no doubt there will be takers. If I were you, I make sure it will be in a museum rather than in some rich Sultan's palace. DP
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Both in Washington state and the headquarters here in Chicago. Also Alan Mutually and John Cashman has seen his work.
WOW Well this is news to me but very cool if true.

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I'd love to have it displayed somewhere, but again I'm really just trying to finish and see where the road takes me! Of course, making money off it would be nice in some ways but it's never been my intention.

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No words can describe this Superb, beautiful, amazing, all fall short of describing this work of art. I applaud you, sir. I just have a quick question: will the model get a full paint job or will you leave it as-is?
Thanks so much! I'm leaving it as-is, so as not to destroy the manila folder look. Applying real paint would probably have been a recipe for disaster anyway (soggy mess etc).

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OP, Once done you can make a video and submit to Discovery Channel so they can make a film out of it. I hope your work will be in a major museum and I have no doubt there will be takers. If I were you, I make sure it will be in a museum rather than in some rich Sultan's palace. DP
I hope so too

So... the "things" I mentioned in my last post—I was lucky enough to be featured in Wired. I wasn't expecting the piece to come out for a bit longer but it came out yesterday without notice. Some of the things written bend the truth, unfortunately... namely the fact that I haven't worked on this continuously for 5 years, nor that I dropped out of school because of/for this project, or that I'm planning to immediately start a larger model. Anyway, for those interested, I suppose it's worth a look:

Here's the World's Best Paper Plane Maker | Wired Design | Wired.com

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Wow.
Just read that article and I had no idea you have been working on it for so long.
4 hours for a first class seat - now I can tell why they are at the level they are.

You should be also interviewed for the magazine " Patience Weekly" as 2014's Man of the Year cos for the patience needed for this project is out of this world.

Well done - I dare you to try the A380 next !!!
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This is simply inhuman! amazing! and my favorite livery as well lol. How on earth did you manage to get such detail? did u have blueprints?
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I would just have one suggestion...........Next one, do it in very thin sheet metal.
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And miniature flat head rivets too ... might as well go for broke!
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Thank you guys!! Glad you've been enjoying the video, I know it's not like what I usually do and I was taking a bit of a gamble in some ways. Anyway, as for your questions...



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wow just saw this article on twitter
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Lest you think I have my life figured out—far from it. I'm trying to figure out what the next step is, because I know I don't want to just build models for the rest of my life. Don't beat yourself up... it takes a while to figure these things out (like I'm an expert...).

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It's been a crazy week and I've honestly been blown away by people's interest in what I'm doing and by their generosity. I've been so fortunate. And to you all: Your comments along the way have meant so much, really. Not to get all sappy here, but the feedback is more than I could ever have asked for.

I'm still intent on finishing this model as soon as possible, so even if I don't post for a while (the wings are a huge undertaking)... don't think I've forgotten about this site! I will keep sharing the progress!

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If you could ever figure out a way to sell "plans" on how/what you did, this would be the kind of thing us older guys could buy and then spend the rest of our lives building. Would be fun.

At some point, you could in theory sell this as art - and for a helluva nice sum. Surprised some Middle Eastern Sheik hasn't asked you to build one of their planes!
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You are doing such an amazing job well done good work always pays off congrats
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Lest you think I have my life figured out—far from it. I'm trying to figure out what the next step is, because I know I don't want to just build models for the rest of my life.
While you're thinking about your LONG term plans would you consider building a large-scale 787-800/900 ... or possibly a 747-8I ... ? The reason I ask is because these planes go so well together as they're all large widebodies being built in Everett's mammoth factory ... just my 2 cents worth!
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CONGRATS LUCA!!! You now have the recognition of Boeing's execs ... could a job be looming in the future?

"Luca’s work has impressed all of us here at Boeing, including 777 vice president and general manager Elizabeth Lund."

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Old 01-28-2014, 01:28 AM   #191
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Congratulations! Very happy for your Luca
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Clarification; passion vs vocation. Doesn't look like model plane builder is your vocation, but you have a passion for building, which can lead to a vocation in manufacturing, engineering, etc.

The only true passion i had/ have is for something I could have never (in hindsight) have done due to poor health. I didn't know i was ill at the time + my eyes couldn't be corrected to try out for USN SEALS. If i could wish for normal health at the time, i would have been so happy to try out; I would have found my passion & vocation.

Nowadays the closest thing would be to fight for my political philosophy/ ideals of liberty, freedom & less oppression such as the Tinhorn dictatorship like we have now in the white house.
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Just (again) watched the video of the painting of this magnificent 777 model and discovered that nearly 300K people have viewed it in LESS than one month ... WHOA!!!

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CONGRATS LUCA!!! You now have the recognition of Boeing's execs ... could a job be looming in the future?

"Luca’s work has impressed all of us here at Boeing, including 777 vice president and general manager Elizabeth Lund."

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“Luca’s work is remarkable and highlights the beautiful design of the 777. I am thoroughly impressed by his craftsmanship and replication of our design,” Lund said.

thumbs up for you, mp..
i know that you're not doing it for the recognition, but i believe that all your hard work has paid off now..
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Nowadays the closest thing would be to fight for my political philosophy/ ideals of liberty, freedom & less oppression such as the Tinhorn dictatorship like we have now in the white house.
The dictator who was elected twice by a majority of the country and will be gone in 2 years...

I'm sorry, I hate to bring politics into this thread, but it irks me to no end when I hear somebody call the President of the United States a dictator. Obama is NOT a dictator, the same way that Bush was NOT a dictator. They are both awful presidents, IMO, but they are not even close to dictators.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Astounding! Your video and photos further demonstrate your gifts. I'm so glad to see the news clips and the (appropriate) appreciation and recognition coming from Boeing and others. Can't wait for further updates on your progress.
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I've been following your work on this thread for over a year and I am constantly astounded by what you've done. This is not just the coolest model ever made, but it's also a great example of what true perseverance, ingenuity, dedication, and hard work can result in. Your work should be an inspiration to everyone, not just those of us interested in model airplanes.
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I've been following your work on this thread for over a year and I am constantly astounded by what you've done. This is not just the coolest model ever made, but it's also a great example of what true perseverance, ingenuity, dedication, and hard work can result in. Your work should be an inspiration to everyone, not just those of us interested in model airplanes.
Well said!!! I too am "inspired" by his talents and hope to rekindle my scratch model building interests as well ... thanks Luca!
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Hi Luca. I recently saw an article about your triple seven on The Verge which just blew me away. I had no idea you have been posting your progress here on DA.C until just now haha. The title of this thread didn't register in my brain I guess. Anyway, like every soul in these pages has said already, you have a God-given talent and are an inspiration around the globe.

BTW, can we possibly see a 747 in the future?
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