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Old 05-07-2020, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For a long while now I have dreamt of building a 1:400 scale diaroma based on London's Heathrow Airport as it would have appeared during the period of the mid-late 1970s, to the early 1980s. Whilst the actuality of this dream is still a very long way off, I have been spending some time during the lockdown researching the various structures that make up the maintenance base at LHR, namely the former BEA & BOAC Hangars & the Technical Blocks of British Airways. Some have since been demolished, the Viscount House block being one. Airport Designs have produced some excellent card kits of some of these period landmarks, and I thought I'd have a go at complimenting these kits with designs of my own for the rest of the complex which has not yet been represented. I decided to start with the BEA Servicing Hangar, a.k.a the "Cathedral" hangar now used by British Airways. It was designed by architects Murray Ward & Partners, the structural engineers were Scott Wilson Kirkpatrick & Partners, and the steelwork contractors were Braithwaite & Co. Structural Ltd. The hangar is a very distinct landmark at Heathrow, and is an impressive latticed girder design which provides a very extensive clear floor area and considerable clear headroom of 70ft throughout the interior. It was designed to accommodate four of the then new Trident 3B aircraft or two Tridents plus two "airbus-size" aircraft, and was completed in 1972. The roof structure itself, which forms a truncated pyramid, has a total combined weight of 3,200 tons and incorporates enormous diagonal steel trusses which support two 11-ton travelling suspension cranes. The hangar originally had double-skin insulated PVC coated steel sheeting with large areas of the roof covered with translucent sheeting and vertical strips of translucent sheet in the walls and doors to maximise the use of natural light. It has since been re-clad in recent years.

Using various historical photographs and Google Earth to acquire critical information for all the 1:1 dimensions as closely as possible, I have produced a set of graphic designs for a 1:400 scale model of the hangar, replicating the exact detail as closely as possible. It is intended to produce a folding card kit from the designs, very much like those of Airport Designs, thus complimenting their range of kits. Of course I could try and apply the design to 3D printing methods in the future, taking it to the next level of detail, but for the moment I have to be content with the card kit approach. This is still a work in progress but the last 3 weeks of designing have been productive. Once all the drawing work has been completed, I will print a mock-up and test the design to see if it actually works as intended. Tweaks will be made where necessary. If successful I will go on to model Technical Block C, the Brutalist concrete structure elevated on a multi-story carpark situated at Hatton Cross.

I have represented the hangar during the Negus era. Photo records show the rebranding of the hangar took place during July 1975, with work on installing the new corporate identity signage underway on 11.7.1975. I intend to replicate the detail of the signage by printing the logos onto decal paper, applying the printed decals onto plasticard cut-outs, then applying the finished articles onto the hangar itself, lending a genuine 3D texture to the signage. I will do a version with the original "BEA" device applied, to represent that era, and possibly the later Landor & Chatham Dockyard eras.

Here are some screenshots of the work so far. Still lots of interior design detail work to do, but if successful I will consider making these available for download at some point. The only issue is that the length of the shutter housing, at scale, exceed the length of an A4 sheet, thus requiring the use of A3 card stock in order to print those sections as one entire part. I would prefer to have the single whole part but might have to spilt it into two parts to accomodate A4 size.

The final step will be to design the base/footprint for the hangar on a section of apron.

















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Nice one.

the infamous "cathedral"

There was a 1/400 card model of the control tower available.
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Nice one.

the infamous "cathedral"

There was a 1/400 card model of the control tower available.
Thanks Aviaction. Lots of work still to do but it's been lots of fun so far. Quite tricky to do but enjoying the challenge.

Yes indeed there was - the 1955 Control Tower (architect was Frederick Gibberd, who designed all of the original Central Area buildings) and the kit is still available as a free download from the Airport Designs website. I have it already and it is still waiting to be built!
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Having grown up by LHR from 1984 to 2000 I can't wait to see what you come up with. Will you eventually aim to model the terminals and runways too? I lived under the runway 23 flightpath which was always great fun to see in action.
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Great work so far, I'd love to 'hangar' some of my BA Negus fleet too. So put me down as interested as well, if you decide to make the finished article available. I've been in that very building and some of the others too, so it's extra special for me in that respect.
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I have built the earlier BEA Engineering Base hangar, I can send you all the plans in 1/400 scale for this if you decide to build it.
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Fantastic work. I too have plans to model the maintenance area, but in 1/200 and the later era. I will watch your progress with interest and envy.
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Having grown up by LHR from 1984 to 2000 I can't wait to see what you come up with. Will you eventually aim to model the terminals and runways too? I lived under the runway 23 flightpath which was always great fun to see in action.
Good luck with your project. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, and yes I do intend to model all the original 3 terminals plus the runways too, eventually! I have collected some material on the other buildings to help make a start with those. Living under runway 23 at the time that you did would have been brilliant, lots of the classic heavies coming over!
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Great work so far, I'd love to 'hangar' some of my BA Negus fleet too. So put me down as interested as well, if you decide to make the finished article available. I've been in that very building and some of the others too, so it's extra special for me in that respect.
Thanks a lot Al, and no problem, I will do. Great that you've actually been inside it - that's awesome! When I've got all the artwork done and got the mock-up built, I'll definitely make this available.
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I have built the earlier BEA Engineering Base hangar, I can send you all the plans in 1/400 scale for this if you decide to build it.
Hello Adrian, crikey that looks absolutely fantastic!! Yes please, I'd be very interested in those, thank you very much indeed! Those hangars were also the next step after designing this, so that is just wonderful. I will be making this hangar available too once it is finished, and hopefully works!
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Fantastic work. I too have plans to model the maintenance area, but in 1/200 and the later era. I will watch your progress with interest and envy.
Thank you very much, I will continue to work hard on this. I've tried to get it as close to the real thing as I possibly can. Wow, sounds great. This would be a brilliant project for the bigger scale. Good luck with that!
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Two of my many books on London Airport are the original book containing most of the plans for the new Central Terminal and Control Tower. The other for the Proposed Airport Plan and Runway Layouts

My intention is to build the control tower in Lego








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Gee what fantastic original documentation! Thank you for sharing Aviaction. Those books look incredibly useful. A Lego model of the Control Tower would be a great build!
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The shutters and rear elevation have been done.



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It says broken images on my phone and ? on he laptop.

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Nothing to see..
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Actually I am building this tower at the moment out of paper.. Love the old an big block of buildings around it..
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I have made some detail modifications, I felt that the window strips looked too thin, so corrected those and added some extra details. I'm happier with the proportions now. Shutters modified too.













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Nothing to see..
Apologies - should be all fixed now? I uploaded again, with the updates to the work done so far.
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Actually I am building this tower at the moment out of paper.. Love the old an big block of buildings around it..
Please share with us once you're done! Although his iconic control tower sadly no longer exists, there are other surviving examples of Sir Frederick Gibberd's work. He designed Britain's very first tower block, "The Lawn", built in 1950 and located in Harlow. It comprises an irregular trapezoid design, and should look very familiar as the design for the 1955 Control Tower came off the same drawings.

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I have made some detail modifications, I felt that the window strips looked too thin, so corrected those and added some extra details. I'm happier with the proportions now. Shutters modified too.













Sorry sir but still can't see anything on my laptop..
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Well this is frustrating! I’ve gone over those URL links several times, nothing different to what I’ve done before. It must be something with Google. I usually direct-link to Google Photos without any problems, these did work at the time of posting but appear to have gone again. I’m going to have to figure this one out.
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Ok I’m trying again, this time uploading pics direct from iphone on the app. Hopefully this should finally work!
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Thank you, and yes I do intend to model all the original 3 terminals plus the runways too, eventually! I have collected some material on the other buildings to help make a start with those. Living under runway 23 at the time that you did would have been brilliant, lots of the classic heavies coming over!

It was a very good time! Everything from small BAe ATP's and bizjets right up to B747's and the concorde. Runway 23 gave them a nice challenge with that strong and gusty wind.


Looks like you're making amazing progress.
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It was a very good time! Everything from small BAe ATP's and bizjets right up to B747's and the concorde. Runway 23 gave them a nice challenge with that strong and gusty wind.


Looks like you're making amazing progress.
How things have changed. Concorde was always an event, that must have been loud! I miss the classic 747’s especially, I have such fond memories of the BA -136’s flying over with the distinct whistle of their P&W engines.

I have just done a lot more work on the hangar, a lot of it quite complex, and have added further detail. Posting more pics below 👍
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More progress; I re-worked the shutter housing and it is more accurate in detail, and completed the rear elevation, which was very complex to say the least. Thanks to a batch of photographs taken in 1970-1972, I was able to fill in a few missing pieces. The photos document the construction of the hangar in detail, and were taken by the principle contractor, Laing. The new hangar was adjoined to the No.1 hangar of the older BEA hangar block behind, allowing access between the hangars. A workshop/office block was also built alongside and occupied part of the internal hangar floor space, and part of this building projected outside, adjoining a further block of workshops behind. Thanks to the information in these photographs, I was able to make sense of it all, and produce a realistic representation.

Thanks to Adrian, who very kindly gave me the 1:400 kit of the earlier 1950s BEA hangars, I was able to reference the design work and marry up the 2 hangars blocks, which are in scale with each other, thus allowing a very realistic representation on a diorama. The next step is to work on the workshop/office block itself, as another kit. Thankfully, I have very detailed pictures of this building, so will be able to detail this fairly accurately.

The rear elevation is built onto the workshop and adjoining hangar, so I have detailed this in the model, allowing the two kits to be joined together, as per the 1:1. However, I have also made an alternative second version of the rear panel, which is fully enclosed, so that a free standing, self-contained model of the hangar may also be made.

More updates to follow!
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Some more progress. Work on the internal detail, trusses and spars to lend some extra realism to the model. The net assembly for the workshop office block has also been done, thanks to detailed interior photographs of it’s construction, I was able to represent this very accurately.
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Wow, Alex, this looks amazing! Is this all Negus Era or is there a bit of Landor in there too? The designs look awesome, can't wait to see how it comes out in 1/400. There are a few Facebook groups I am in with wonderful people from the UK who can maybe help you out even more? You can email me or send me a message on Instagram and I can get you in touch with them. Those guys have some amazing foil designs that they all make by hand and surely they'd be glad to help you out! How has AUS been so far?

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Hi Jag, thanks for the positive feedback. The drawing work that I've been doing above represents the hangar during the Negus era, but as I outlined at the start of this thread, I do intend to produce drawings for both the earlier BEA era (1972-1974), Landor era (1985-1997) and possibly the current Chatham Dockyard era, but that would require some further revision of the drawings as the exterior cladding was altered substantially around 1998 or so onwards. Thanks also for the FB group references - should I need anything I will let you know! I do have the specific foils I require for this particular area of the maintenance block, which is to scale, thanks to Adrian's help here earlier on, and quite a few other foils including those of Airport Designs. However I'd love to check out their designs too, so I'll be in touch

I am also very familiar with that hangar you show above - which is great, but it is a generic representation whereas the work I've been doing is to create a very accurate model of the actual 1:1, as much as the medium (card) will allow. I'm very nearly finished all the drawing work. The next step is to print it, make a mock-up and see if it comes together as intended! The size means that A3 card is required, which means an A3 printer - which I don't have (yet).

This time in lockdown has allowed me to do all this stuff which otherwise would probably never get done, and I love spending my time doing something creative and constructive. Working out this design as a kit really did require a lot of thought and was quite complex in some areas. Definitely passed the time!

Australia has been good so far thank you, we're very grateful to be here in a peaceful, semi-rural environment. It has been a bit of an adjustment, it's a very different kind of life out here.

Hope you've been keeping safe and well yourself and have fun with your 1/144 kit - that takes me back to when I was 15! I made an Airfix B.747-136 in that scale, it came with decals for both Alitalia & BA (Landor) but I custom painted it into Negus colours! Happy times.
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More internal design work done. The hangar will have full internal detail, which would be printed on separate sheets of card and will line the inside, adding extra strength and rigidity to the finished structure. I intend to use matte white A3 card at 250gsm.
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Wow. You're making amazing progress so far! Do you have a facebook group or paige where you post progress updates?
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Wow. You're making amazing progress so far! Do you have a facebook group or paige where you post progress updates?
Hi! Thanks for the feedback 😊👍 The last few days have been intense, with lots of design work. I’ve tried my best to replicate the internal detail as closely as I could. I am now working on the ground foil & apron section, which accommodates the hangar footprint, and will be fully compatible with the Airport Designs foils. This would give an option to have the model displayed on it’s own section of apron, or have it integrated into a larger diorama using the Airport Designs system.

I have just joined a few groups on FB - I have yet to post on there and probably will do once all the drawing work is finished and a mock-up is made. I guess I’m waiting to see if this actually comes together nicely first, before showing it to a wider audience!
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Sounds really good! Can't wait to see photos!
Let me know which groups you upload any progress to as I'll join to keep as up to date with your progress as possible.
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Hi! Thanks for the feedback 😊👍 The last few days have been intense, with lots of design work. I’ve tried my best to replicate the internal detail as closely as I could. I am now working on the ground foil & apron section, which accommodates the hangar footprint, and will be fully compatible with the Airport Designs foils. This would give an option to have the model displayed on it’s own section of apron, or have it integrated into a larger diorama using the Airport Designs system.

I have just joined a few groups on FB - I have yet to post on there and probably will do once all the drawing work is finished and a mock-up is made. I guess I’m waiting to see if this actually comes together nicely first, before showing it to a wider audience!
Can you tell me which groups on FB.??? I am curious
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Sounds really good! Can't wait to see photos!
Let me know which groups you upload any progress to as I'll join to keep as up to date with your progress as possible.
Thank you - and I will do, no worries. Your continued interest is much appreciated; apologies for the late reply as I’ve not been on here for a week or so. I have been very hard at work doing the ground foil/apron and re-working the hangar. The foil was particularly difficult and took several attempts to get right. I took great care in replicating it at closely as possible; especially with getting the British road markings correct. Some parts I have to wait on doing, as the access markings to the North entrance of the Cathedral hangar were significantly altered after the Viscount House hangar blocks and the one side of the BEA hangars were demolished. I’ll need to reference aerial photos taken during the 70s-90s to get that part right for the period. I’ll probably continue building up the foils to cover all the major blocks of the maintenance area eventually, as each building is modeled. Here are some more photos of the progress after an intense week of work. The foils for the hangar are spread over 4 A4 sheets.
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...finally got there in the end! It’s close enough I think 😂
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Completely re-worked areas with added detail. I have a lot more of this to do with many other parts of the model. I completely altered the interior roof detail as the first attempt didn’t look right. After finding a detailed photograph showing the roof being constructed, I was better able to understand the design and replicate it more accurately.
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Some more updates. All the artwork and components for the model have been finalised, with lots of revisions and added detail. It has taken 2 months to get to this stage, and much has been learnt along the way. Next part is to actually build a mock-up, and see if it works. I’ll also draw up a BEA version, then Landor variant to cover those eras. Next on the list will be the other major buildings in the maintenance area; the adjoining BEA engineering office/workshop block (about 3 quarters of this has since been demolished), the Viscount House block and the Brutalist Technical Block C - that one is going to be fun. Then some of the 1950’s training blocks, old UK standard brick & concrete structures with Crittal Windows, and the large BOAC 747 sheds attached to the earlier concrete hangars. All in good time...
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BEA version has been done, so an original as-built hangar can be represented for the era 1972-1975. I revised the roof cladding detail yet again to more accurately match the 1:1 as originally built, which was clad completely in corrugated sheet. I’ve kept the alternate panel cladding design which will suit a contemporary version of this hangar, which will follow in due course.
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The artwork for the hangar is pretty much complete, so need to get the mock-up done next. In the meantime I’ve started designing other key areas of LHR‘s infrastructure, as it appeared back in the 1970s. The network of roadways, tunnels, bridges are an aspect that I really want to faithfully represent. More key buildings will also follow.
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Good to see your updates! Looks amazing. Keep posting. Can't wait to see it all come together.
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Good to see your updates! Looks amazing. Keep posting. Can't wait to see it all come together.
Thanks for the positive feedback. The screenshots that I have been attaching via Google Photos on the iphone app don't come out as big, or as high quality as I'd hoped when viewed on the desktop version of DAC, even though they have been uploaded at full size, so they don't really do the work justice, unfortunately. Hopefully it's good enough to get an idea!

I have drawn up A3 & A4 templates for the finished hangar artwork, and I hope to get these printed up at a professional printing place at some stage while here in Australia. When I build the mock-up, I'll document the stages of the build as a basis for providing assembly instructions, should I make this available in the future (if it works!).

I've also been doing a bit of work on the basic footprint of the Central Area layout; some 1:2500 scale maps are helping immensely with this, as I can draw the road layout quite accurately from measuring the lengths/distances from those maps, and converting the scale. The road layout is key as that sets everything else up as regards the building footprints. Working out all the elevated roadway sections, car park connections and tunnel entrances will be fun...

Then it's modeling the other key buildings that make up the BA maintenance area;

  • Viscount House Annexe
  • Boadicea House (BOAC/BA Data Centre)
  • BOAC 747 Hangar with Technical Blocks J & K, and the extensions to the 1950's concrete BOAC Hangars, all built at the same period (1969-1970)
  • Technical Block C
  • Former BEA engineering blocks (only a fraction of this now remains)

Airport Designs took care of the original 1950s BOAC hangars, which is a fantastic kit, so that saves a hell of a lot of work there, as with the larger BEA hangar blocks (11-20), the other hangar block design they produced is based on those and look close enough. Adrian already very kindly supplied the other BEA Hangar blocks, 1-10, and their apron footprint, which is fantastic.

I have a decent collection of reference photographs, but actual scale drawings/plans/elevations of the buildings listed above (plus Terminals 1, 2, 3 + Queens Building) are proving very difficult to find. Google Earth helps, but it's not perfect. I do have some info on the footprint/elevation of Terminal 1 however.



If there's anyone else here reading this thread who might be able to help, please get in touch!
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A few more screenshots below of various other bits of airport infrastructure; little things like apron signage and traffic block numbers, correct for the era; the block numbers were actually referenced from a period traffic block diagram!

The Central Area tunnel portal has been done, the additional abutment walls will be added when the elevated road above (Calshot Rd) and connection to T1 is worked out. A bit more of the main dual carriageway has been done, with traffic islands and a concrete slip road. These will be over-layered onto a digital 1:2500 map and tweaked where needed, as the road layout is built up. All of the road markings have come from the UK Government drawings, so are very accurate. I have rescaled them and customised their layout for 1:400. This will be a lot of work overall, and will most likely present a challenge for the CPU consumption of my computer!

Also some finished Cathedral Hangar front elevations with the roof on, these are to give an idea of the overall appearance.

I realise that this thread started out as the subject of the Cathedral Hangar, but I’m now lumping the whole project together here as one, for anyone that is interested.

I have to be realistic about the size of this project, and that all of it might not even happen, because LHR is such an enormous airport (Runway 27R would be just under 1,000cm in length at 1:400 scale, for example. The main road tunnel length is 630m, that’s nearly 160cm at 1:400 scale!). But, at least I can get the digital artwork done to a fairly decent standard in order for kits to be produced, so one bit at a time. Obviously for roads/bridges/tunnel entrances, more rigid material such as plasticard or balsa wood would be used to produce the actual skeleton for these structures, with the printed outer detail on card for the added for aesthetic value. Synthetic card, or a vinyl material, is intended for the ground foils and road layouts. Foam, putty and a whole variety of other landscaping materials would also be used, very much in the same way as model railway building. I’ll keep dreaming for now!
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Wow. You really are progressing ever so well with this project. It all looks amazing so far.
If you need reference material, have you joined the Heathrow Classic movements group on facebook? You could ask the guys on there for a lot of reference material as a lot of the group have worked at LHR over the years including the maintenance areas and there's some real classic photos on there, not just of aircraft but of buildings and vehicles too.
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Wow. You really are progressing ever so well with this project. It all looks amazing so far.
If you need reference material, have you joined the Heathrow Classic movements group on facebook? You could ask the guys on there for a lot of reference material as a lot of the group have worked at LHR over the years including the maintenance areas and there's some real classic photos on there, not just of aircraft but of buildings and vehicles too.
Thanks again captainflynn for your positive feedback, much appreciated, and that FB group sounds like a brilliant idea - never thought of that! I’ll look them up. This could be very helpful. Brilliant. Thanks a lot for that! 👍👍
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