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Old 08-16-2020, 10:37 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Here are the latest screenshots. I have to do these from my phone. The desktop method no longer works with Google Photos, the links just keep dying.

I hope they give an idea as to the extent of the detailing, all done from scratch, nothing has been “ripped”.
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More attachments here, quite a few in this update...
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Just found this thread. Wow!! Amazing job!!! It really looks awesome.
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Just found this thread. Wow!! Amazing job!!! It really looks awesome.
Thanks blueangel_78 for the positive feedback. I hope to get a mock-up of the Cathedral Hangar done in due course, to test the design and see if it works as intended. Will keep posting the progress here as things develop 🙂
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You have been busy! Really pleased with how this is coming along. Looks amazing so far.
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You have been busy! Really pleased with how this is coming along. Looks amazing so far.
Thank you, I'm knee-deep in further design work and will keep sharing the progress, I do look forward to being able to share an actual bit of modelling work from all this, it's just such a mammoth task, but the drawing work for the BEA West Base complex is nearly complete.
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More work has been done on the assembly kits for the extensive workshop blocks that made up the BEA/BA West Base complex. Each block was associated with the hangar block in front and they were sub-divided accordingly, and the kit follows this logic, closely matching the 1:1. All roller shutters & windows are correct in detail and number, it was a nightmare getting this detail exact but it has been done! An elevated walkway which connected the two workshops over the centre access road has also been done, as well as some roof detailing.

Some further detail corrections have also been made to other areas of the kits again as I have gone through checking and proofing everything, an additional set of access doors have been added to the shutter assemblies as further photo references revealed this detail. Internal details have been done for the hangar block rear wall assembly.

There is one final block of workshops to go, before this whole complex is finally complete!
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Also back to the Cathedral Hangar and finally a Landor variant has been done, to represent this era, 1985-1997.
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Lightbulb Progress Report - Updated Plans & Artwork

It's been a good while since I posted an update on this project here, and although the thread has been dormant, the work certainly hasn't...

It was a tough decision, but I decided to start again. There were some elements that I wasn't happy with, and I since discovered a wealth of useful material which enabled me to re-do all my artwork and redesign the kit to an extremely accurate standard. I have now completed a new version of the BEA West Base Hangars 1-10, Block TBE. I have to layout the assembly kits of these, and do the adjoining workshop blocks, but the blueprints are now all there. Viscount House Annexe will be next and then the final re-working of the Cathedral Hangar; vital stats have been acquired so the whole lot will be accurately to scale.

I've produced architectural working drawings, positioning all steel supports, joists and floor systems, window reveals and sized to UK standard industrial specs from the post-war era, 1950s, incorporating details for UK Crittall Windows, internal/external door fittings, roof trusses etc. Then doing the entire skin in colour, with full render, all from scratch.

Thanks to Historic England, I was able to nail a few more details. I am now continuing with the new artwork, I have added a new Epson A3 colour pigment ink printer to the arsenal & a large stock of A3 & A4 card and plasticard sheets of various weights/thicknesses, plus clear perspex sheet for glazing bar cut-out details.

This really is a mammoth task but my OCD combined with determination has meant that I haven't given up!

I hope the following attachments give an idea of the new work - it is now final, just need to get through all the remaining buildings and kit designs again...

The line drawings:

It's all down the original kit as designed by Jesus which Adrian sent me last year. I took it further and redesigned the whole thing again, this time all truly accurate down to each window reveal, glazing bar and steel truss. Also detailed is an observation gallery which occupied Bays 3 and 8.











Adjoining Workshop Block Elevations, Hangars 1-5. The steel columns are divided equally between the steels for the hangar structure to which they adjoin; each pair of windows fits into a single picture window for the rear hangar elevation. The maths involved in order to calculate all this was a bit of a nightmare! The calculation of each steel column position was critical. The hangar bays themselves are divided equally of course into 5 bays, each separation is with a doubled steel for additional strength and that doubled steel value is "borrowed" by the adjoining structure at coinciding intervals.



Adjoining Workshop Block Elevations, Hangars 6-10. These were slightly different to the blocks for 1-5. The end block was a First Aid centre, and had a different profile.




Workshop Block Elevations with access shutter & door detail:






End 2-storey Workshop Block Elevations:






Line drawing elevation of Hangar + adjoining rear Workshop Block Elevations:




New colour skins. Full realization of Hangars 1-10, Side Elevation facing Viscount Way car park & access area:




Full colour realization of Hangar Bays 1-5:



Hangar Bays 6-10. These were not given illuminated BA Negus idents as with 1-5. By the time the rebranding occurred, the larger hangars 11-20 had been built across the way thus obscuring their view from the other side. So installing signs was considered superfluous for this hangar block. (The connection for the elevated walkway passage to Viscount House is included, the datum for this building has all been worked out and will also be modeled in full detail):



The internal rear detail panels for Bays 1-5, 6-10. All hydrants and services, including period "Fire Points", "No Smoking, No Cycling" & "Bay No." signs included in the detail, all referenced from the correct photos (the interiors of Hangar Bays 11-20 differed in their architectural detail and layout). Concrete lintels, supports and steel joist connections all rendered. Glazing bar detail panels will be on a separate perspex sheet (might have to send this to a commercial printer, not sure if my Epson can print on this stuff)

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Rear Internal Detail Panel Sections, examples of Bay No.1 and Bay Nos. 3 & 8 with observation gallery (both had differences in layout/construction):







Side/Rear Elevation Window Reveal Glazing Bar Panels for perspex sheet:







Hangar 1-5 Internal Net Assembly:





Glazing Bar Panel for Roof Lights, and external Roof Panel:





Workshop Block Front Entrance Assembly:



Hangar 1-5 Internal Front Detail Panel:



Hangar 1-5 External Rear Elevation Detail Panel, with adjoining workshop block glue panels:



Hangar 1-5 External Front Elevation Panel:



Hangar 1-5 End Elevation Panels 1 & 2, and a side detail panel for the internal party wall assembly. Authentic "Keep Gangways Clear" signs added!





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Bugger. Some of the photo embed links are yet again not appearing to work when viewed on Firefox browser. Checked on Chrome, all appear to work when site is viewed from there however. I've used an add-on which assists direct URL embeds from Google Photos. What a pain!
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Bugger. Some of the photo embed links are yet again not appearing to work when viewed on Firefox browser. Checked on Chrome, all appear to work when site is viewed from there however. I've used an add-on which assists direct URL embeds from Google Photos. What a pain!
I'm using Chrome, Alex, and can't see them!
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I'm using Chrome, Alex, and can't see them!
Hi Adrian - thanks for letting me know. Drat. It's gotten quite late now but tomorrow I will try and sort this out and re-post everything yet again. I might have to start putting these up on a flickr account or something to get this to finally work! So unbelievably frustrating, I'm very keen to share with all who are interested.


EDIT: Checking back here this morning, both on Firefox & Chrome browsers, and all the image embed links now appear to be working on both? Not working on DAC app though. I often just use the DAC app on my iphone and upload pics from there direct, but they'd be really small attachments again, no good to show this work really at all.
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Right, I've gone through all the links again, it looks fixed from my end, let's see...
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Lightbulb Final Drafts: BEA Hangar 1-10 TBE Block

The first 3 final drafts completed for the new revised BEA hangar block net assembly components, to be printed on A3:





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External Roof Assembly. Completely redrawn with accurate detailing for roof light cut-outs. The glazing bar detail printed on the perspex sheet will sit underneath this part.

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Hangars 1-5 Internal Net Assembly Sections.




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Hangar 1-5 Internal Detail Panel Assemblies:

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Hangars 1-5 Side Elevation Assembly Panels:

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Hangars 1-5 Glazing Bar Panels (to be printed on A3 clear perspex sheet):

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Hangars 6-10 Assembly Kit layout started. Tedious work but getting it done, this is what the model is going to be created from, at last:




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This is the new Epson SC-P700 A3 printer I bought last month. A major investment, hopefully it’ll do the job. It uses pigment ink and has quite a few smart features. There was a very long lead time on getting it, too. It’s waiting to go now, on the first project. I look forward to sharing the first results here, after getting through the rest of my design work.
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Wow. Glad it's coming along really well mate. It's going to look amazing.
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Wow. Glad it's coming along really well mate. It's going to look amazing.
Thanks for the positive feedback mate, much appreciated. This project has been a very long burn but now it's finally coming together, after having to go back to the drawing board, but now it is very accurate and much better than before. A very complex task. Lots still to do, but cannot wait to start building it. Cheers!
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More assembly kits for Hangar blocks 6-10 finished:












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Net Assemblies Sections A & B completed for Hangars 6-10. The new finalized kits are now complete for the 2 ex-BEA TBE hangar pens, 1-10. Next, artwork for the associated workshop blocks & new net assemblies for those.




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Colour skin for Hangar 1-5 Workshop Blocks 1-4 completed. Will do the remaining 2-storey 5th workshop block next. I've shown the stages of the design work. Authentic detail throughout. I can almost imagine the scenes in these 1950s-built workshop offices in the period in which I've rendered them, the mid '70s - wide collar shirts, kipper ties, horn-rimmed glasses, typewriters, GPO phones, Bisley filing cabinets, and Bedford HA vans parked outside, along with Mk4 Cortinas, Austin Allegros, Morris Marinas etc...







Front Elevation, Workshop Blocks 1-4 :



Side Elevation:



This is a full realization of the workshop blocks against the rear elevation of hangar blocks 1-5, as completed thus far:

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The artwork from the completely revised working drawings for Workshop Blocks 1-5 is complete:

Front Elevation of 3-storey blocks 1-4:



Front Elevation of the 2-storey block 5:



The completed realization of the rear elevation of Hangar/Workshop Blocks 1-5:



Now to make a start on the blocks for Hangars 6-10.
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Wow you are busy with this at the moment. Pressing ahead amazingly well.
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Wow you are busy with this at the moment. Pressing ahead amazingly well.
Thank you. I am working a few hours on this each day, after having to redraft the whole lot there is a real determination to get this done, it seems almost endless! Much more to come. The embed links are now also working very well (touch-wood!) for the pictures, which are viewable at a much more decent size (when using the desktop version of DAC)
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They do look amazing mate. I use the desktop version of this forum and can see everything clearly! Keep up the good work.
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They do look amazing mate. I use the desktop version of this forum and can see everything clearly! Keep up the good work.
Great to hear - and thanks again. Glad you can see the work more clearly. The design process for each stage of this project has been absolutely painstaking. Plenty more work to keep me occupied over the next few weeks!
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Before getting to the workshop blocks for Hangars 6-10, which have their own little detail differences, I remembered that I had to first take care of the rear elevation detail for the blocks serving Hangars 1-5 first, so now that has been started. Part of this involves dealing with an observation gallery block, which is perched on top of the 2-storey workshops sandwiched between the hangar pens and the outer-facing 3-storey workshop blocks. This single-story block (as originally built) faced into Hangar 3 and had a passageway connection which fed into the outer facing 3-storey workshop block. Lining all of this up takes a lot of design work and working out.

Rear Elevation of the 3-storey Workshop Blocks 1-5, with glue panels marked out for the 2-storey workshop blocks than run along the back of them. The line templates are drawn and marked out for the relative position of the observation gallery. Due to the limitations of working with such a small scale, it is not practical to detail every aspect but I did want to include this feature in the kit.





Each stage involves a lot of work - this is before doing the actual colour skins, rendering, then ultimately designing the net assemblies as a working kit.

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Some more progress on the Observation Gallery for Hanger 3:







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The artwork & net assembly for the hangar 3 observation gallery is complete. It will only be a small dinky little building at 1/400 scale but worth including in the detail. A start has been made for the gallery built onto hangar 8, on the opposite side. This differed in layout.

Hangar 3 Observation Gallery structure:



Net assembly (to be laid out onto A3 sheet along with associated workshop block assembly):



Hangar 8 Observation Gallery:





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The first set of workshop blocks for Hangars 1-5 are now complete as kits, laid out onto A3 sheets. They include some detail revisions and are now final. The next job is to work on the net assemblies for the 4 workshop blocks that adjoin these in front.

Workshop Block D, 1-5:







The full realisation of the roof plan for Workshop Block D, 1-5:



The observation gallery block was revised to add a further structure added on top in the 1960s:



Also, the full realisation of the roof plans for Hangar Blocks 1-5 & 6-10. These also had some minor revisions made.

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Design work on the roof detail plans for the front facing workshop blocks has started. After this, the net assembly kits can be done. The attachment below demonstrates the time it takes to do each step, lining everything up and so on, in relation to the other buildings:

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Today has been an exciting step (for me at least) in the development of this project. A small but crucial detail I really wanted to feature for the hangar kit were clear glazing panels for the windows & rooflights, with the details printed on them. After several enquiries, I found a commercial printing company that could supply the material and take on a small run. They print on plastic packaging and a wide range of other packaging products.

I submitted my 1:400 glazing bar designs as a finished high-res transparent .pdf with a bleed. I was sent proofs of the designs within a day of submitting them - they just arrived this morning.

The results are superb, much better than I expected. The PETG material is 400 microns thick which will work with the heavier gsm weight of the card I intend to print the kit designs on. Delving into the exciting world of paper technology I discovered that gsm weight does not correlate with thickness. Some experimentation will be required, but the 300 gsm A3 card stock I have should be an excellent choice for the hangar section of the kit. I also have 200 & 250 gsm weights to test.

I’ve attached images from my iphone. Critically, the printed panels measure exactly to my 1:400 scale drawings. The little Aeroclassics US Air DC-9 (yes, perhaps it should be a Trident but it’s what I had immediately to hand lol) demonstrates the scale.

I’ve placed an order for 200 units (100 for each hangar block) of these PETG glazing panel designs, to include with the kits for future sale (hopefully, all going well).
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A quick test to confirm if the 300 gsm weight of the A3 card stock vs. the 400 micron PETG sheet mate together seamlessly. They do. The surface is flush between the two materials at the join, meaning that once the glazing panels are cut out with a hobby knife, they will sit flush within the card template allowing them sandwich nicely between the external detail panels.
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More progress made on the workshop blocks for hangars 1-5. These are now complete, on to the next part.

Detail to the roof added...



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Colour detail work on the workshop elevations for hangars 6-10 has started. There are a number of detail differences between these and the blocks for hangars 1-5 opposite, which took some work to draw up, as they are not just an exact mirror. Some excellent photos have allowed me to replicate small details with great accuracy. These blocks, together with hangars 6-10 were demolished in 1999.

Front Elevation + Side Elevation, Hangars 6-10 Workshop Blocks 1-4 + Medical Centre (End Block):





Rear Elevation, with connections to observation gallery & service block:





In addition, a window reveal in hangar 9 has been blanked off as there is a service block built against the back of this as well, which is another differing feature of these hangar blocks. The artwork was modified to incorporate this detail in the kit design.

External/Internal Rear Elevation Panels, Hangars 6-10:





A full realisation of the rear elevation of these hangar blocks will follow shortly...
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Another update, the artwork for the entire workshop block detail is complete. All pipes, ducts, services & roof access blocks are included. These were all referenced from aerial photographs. Work is well underway with getting the rest of the kits done, I'm hoping to start building a mock-up very soon.

I have opened up a new Instagram account "barison400", where I am now posting regular progress updates on there instead. I will continue to post here but only with key updates, and with pictures of the model once the build starts.

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Re-post of the image above, fixed link:


BEA West Base TBE Plan (The final workshop kit will be completed soon and added to this realisation):
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Also, the final, fully completed line drawings and graphic realisations of the North/South Elevations. The entire BEA West Base TBE is almost done, finally, and ready to be modelled in 1:400...

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Some links are still refusing to work, so I’ll just attach these latest updates from my iphone for now. The first parts of the kit are now being printed out and the initial results are excellent. Very happy with the quality from the Epson printer. Critically, the PETG glazing panels all fit with the kit components exactly as designed. Lots of parts to print up yet but I’m now finally getting closer to actually building something…
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