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I'm currently working on my own diorama and I'm reseaching everywhere on the web I can think of and using reference books that I have.
Then I'll have a display I've made and am happy with. You know, a sense of achievement.
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Hi, I want to Make/do/not do/have (insert thing here) and I think this may work and here's is my logic and ideas, what do you guys think?
this may stimulate assistance and non sarcastic answers...
I'm currently working on my own diorama and I'm reseaching everywhere on the web I can think of and using reference books that I have.
Then I'll have a display I've made and am happy with. You know, a sense of achievement.
That, and it never hurts to experiment on making things for a model airport, or in some cases to enhance a model with things you have around the home, or can easily buy around. I mean, there is a guy out there who built an entire navy of ships out of wooden match boxes!
12 is around that point in your life where you need to start taking some initiative to figure simple things out on your own. With regards to this topic, you could start with some cereal boxes, some glue, some tape, and some paint or colored paper and figure out how to make your own small scale blast fences.
I have been thinking for some time about how to build 1:200 blast fences for a diorama. I was thinking about making them out of plastic, but balsa wood might be a good medium. If you come up with a good method, please post it here. I will do the same. Good luck!
Well, if HSBC can plaster its logo all over airports, why not Kellogg's?
They'rrrrrre Great!!
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If this were Yahoo! Answers then I'd understand giving the kid a snotty and sarcastic response, but this is a forum with a common passion for this hobby, therefore I think some of you should have given him a bit of a break. Some people, especially kids, look for some sort of direction from you "experts" and even the tiniest tip (no matter how obvious and simple) would be appreciated. Perhaps he was just starting a conversation and his age doesn't allow him to be as eloquent as the rest of you.
I watch kids do diecast airplane unboxing on YouTube or showcase their airport dioramas. Many of them are crap but it doesn't mean we should be nasty to them. They're trying to enjoy it as much as we do. Again, we all love this hobby. Be nice to everyone.
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If this were Yahoo! Answers then I'd understand giving the kid a snotty and sarcastic response, but this is a forum with a common passion for this hobby, therefore I think some of you should have given him a bit of a break. Some people, especially kids, look for some sort of direction from you "experts" and even the tiniest tip (no matter how obvious and simple) would be appreciated. Perhaps he was just starting a conversation and his age doesn't allow him to be as eloquent as the rest of you.
I watch kids do diecast airplane unboxing on YouTube or showcase their airport dioramas. Many of them are crap but it doesn't mean we should be nasty to them. They're trying to enjoy it as much as we do. Again, we all love this hobby. Be nice to everyone.
Even forums have their standards, and when certain members don't meet up to them, this is often the result. Think of the first couple days (or months), as Boot Camp in the USMC (or at least how it's portrayed in the TV) for these younger members. They screw around, or do other things that should be common sense by the time you use a computer of what not to do, they get venomously yelled and insulted by a guy in a funny hat. You may think it's an ugly sight, but having spent almost a decade between W900 and DAC, if done properly the result is quite satisfactory on both ends. Ignore it, and the forum as a whole will have more than enough of this "passionate little kid." The airflorid54 situation on W900 is one of the best examples of that. I could go on forever on that story. Mind you, people are trying to be as polite as possible, but there is a point where sarcasm takes the place of it, and from what I can see, he ignores peoples' advice and posts on his questions, and then brings up that same question in another thread. In other words, though he does his best to follow spelling and grammar (thanks there! Most 14 year olds still don't grasp that!), he's earned the sarcasm in other ways.
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If forums have their standards, then we should have a screening exam to be a part of it? I'm just saying, he is 12. If no one responds to his question, then he will likely stop. If he doesn't, then have an administrator limit his account. I just thought the sarcasm to the kid was not necessary, but I respect your opinion. I'm not here to cause trouble but I don't want younger people to have a bad experience on the forum when we are here for the same reasons, to learn and share about model planes. Some of the members come from all around the world (I'm from the Philippines) and in different countries, perhaps one kids workshop skill set isn't as sound as another mans, hence the question was asked. And to compare the treatment to the Marine Corp for a 12 year old is a bit aggressive. I could easily say why not compare it to the Boy Scouts, that when a young person has a mundane question, it is still treated as worthwhile and worthy of a legit answer. I guess it's relative but it certainly didnt seem that the 12 year old posted the question in order to troll the forum.
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Anyway, nevermind. I certainly don't want to create any drama here. Just thought I'd share my thoughts about being nicer to the young ones. I won't post about it any longer. Have a great weekend everyone! More 1:200 airports please!
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If forums have their standards, then we should have a screening exam to be a part of it? I'm just saying, he is 12. If no one responds to his question, then he will likely stop. If he doesn't, then have an administrator limit his account. I just thought the sarcasm to the kid was not necessary, but I respect your opinion. I'm not here to cause trouble but I don't want younger people to have a bad experience on the forum when we are here for the same reasons, to learn and share about model planes. Some tof the members come from all around the world (I'm from the Philippines) and in different countries, perhaps one kids workshop skill set isn't as sound as another mans, hence the question was asked. And to compare the treatment tohe Marine Corp for a 12 year old is a bit aggressive. I could easily say why not compare it to the Boy Scouts, that when a young person has a mundane question, it is still treated as worthwhile and worthy of a legit answer. I guess it's relative but it certainly didnt seem that the 12 year old posted the question in order to troll the forum.
Ok, then not USMC, but a hyper competitive High School Marching band (which if he were in the states, and wanted to experience the "sit down" bands in High school, he'll be forcibly drafted into in about 2-3 years)! Unlike the USMC, I have experienced that, and even twitching at attention will result in 2 laps around the track while going up and down 40 ft. bleachers while getting yelled and insulted by the 20 somethings who they hire to help out during MB season! Nowhere near as intense as the USMC, but for a teen, it is intense enough.
Just to put it simple, to someone who hasn't been around very long, it looks brutal, but in reality it's really the only way to mould one in (i.e., people start out as polite, but as he acts more and more like that, yelling at sarcasm is often the result.) And you know what? It isn't exclusive to younger members, they just have a posting style that is very difficult to tolerate (and shouldn't.) Only time when this is remotely excusable is when there is a neurological, genetic or mental condition that inhibits proper posting habits. He is halfway there, he just needs to understand that the search function and Google are his friends. And people are trying (or had been) to politely tell him that, but he seems incapable of understanding what those words mean, even with quite easy to read descriptions.
You seem to think this is about age for some reason. It has nothing to do with age, believe me on that. I don't know why all ya politically correct newer folk think that every time one of these kinds of posters come around.
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I have made one. What I did, is I printed some blast fence patterns from a website in another of my posts, then I cut out some cardboard, bent it into an L shape, and then haza! I have my very own blast fence!
I have made one. What I did, is I printed some blast fence patterns from a website in another of my posts, then I cut out some cardboard, bent it into an L shape, and then haza! I have my very own blast fence!
Very good, that's a good first step to getting some small scenery objects onto your model airport!
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and even twitching at attention will result in 2 laps around the track while going up and down 40 ft. bleachers while getting yelled and insulted by the 20 somethings who they hire to help out during MB season!
And you know what? It isn't exclusive to younger members, they just have a posting style that is very difficult to tolerate (and shouldn't.) Only time when this is remotely excusable is when there is a neurological, genetic or mental condition that inhibits proper posting habits. He is halfway there, he just needs to understand that the search function and Google are his friends. And people are trying (or had been) to politely tell him that, but he seems incapable of understanding what those words mean, even with quite easy to read descriptions.
WOW, i can't understand how rigid you are & unrealistic. You also stated that negative reinforcement is the best option. All that does is subdue & doesn't teach a person anything useful.
I believe that the more experienced people should be giving practical advice and not sarcastic "go do it yourself" answers. We have the opportunity to send this hobby to the next generation if we only go out of our way to encourage the next generation. When I go to the big shows I always try to help and answer questions for them. I encourage them to buy certain models and I give them the reason why.
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WOW, i can't understand how rigid you are & unrealistic. You also stated that negative reinforcement is the best option. All that does is subdue & doesn't teach a person anything useful.
And I'm being unrealistic? Nope, I think I'm quite realistic, after-all, I lived that. The school I went to Freshman Year was known, and I think is still one of the best MB programs in the state! The one for the other 3 years was also intense, but was more about quality than competition (the director for the first 2 years was scared of competitions, leftovers from his days as an intern at Doctor Phillips HS in the 1980s). Anyways, I've seen it happen, and am surprised that none of my brothers in sound haven't been taken away in the back of a Big Red Truck with "Orange County Fire-Rescue" written on it (proper water breaks after the running in near 100 F heat were more or less were a luxury for the more physically fit people who finished it 3 minutes ahead of everyone else, most of us were fortunate to get barely a sip of water). Schools that had much "softer" programs were notorious for low quality. Hell, we didn't get to march Disney multiple times (at least 6 or 7 times in my 3 years at FHS) and March Chicago St. Pats by sounding like crap and marching like drunkards in those days!
Anyways, it's a mixture of positive and sarcastic re-enforcment. If the kid takes advice on not posting like crap, people will be far more polite. If he ignores, people will start to pile on him, and even members of the "Ignore him" crowd will become irritated. Especially after those of us who do pile on him do "ignore him." I've seen it happen MULTIPLE times around these parts. I'm curious, why are you even re-igniting this fire? Gimala has improved quite a bit, and some of us has offered help to him, which has gladly accepted. Just because we can be outspoken and at times harsh doesn't mean we don't have a heart or a brain (unlike the politically correct, which seems to lack both, but pretends to have the former...)
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There exists a generation gap and many kids out there today neither trust us older people nor care to ask advice because "its all on the net so what would those old farts know anyway". Now here we have a young guy who is asking us, yes it may be obvious to some but not to him, so why give him or others like him a hard time. No wonder these kids might think we're a bunch of sh*t heads with whom they have nothing in common.
There exists a generation gap and many kids out there today neither trust us older people nor care to ask advice because "its all on the net so what would those old farts know anyway". Now here we have a young guy who is asking us, yes it may be obvious to some but not to him, so why give him or others like him a hard time. No wonder these kids might think we're a bunch of sh*t heads with whom they have nothing in common.
But here is the thing, Gimala has improved and considerably, our friend above decided to reply to a post made at the height of the tension, which was about a month later. If had been paying attention to the ongoing of the forum instead of bombarding me with a hypocritical lecture on Political Correctness, he'd notice that things have changed considerably since then.
But sometimes the older folks do have some great wisdom in where to find good ideas. Here is an example I rather discovered recently. Model Railroading, there is a lot out there online on considerations on how to make a decent layout, but not much out there in terms of how to get much further other than things like "Don't run your trains on the edge of the table." Many older folks definitely recommend picking up backissues of Model Railroader, and always try getting me to do so. Boy I didn't realize how much of a point they had until two weeks ago when a local model railroader club had an open house, and they were giving away old backissues they were meaning to get rid of, managed to pick up most of 1998 and 1972/73. Even the 40 year old examples have some great food for thought (and of course, offer some great advice that gets re-iterated in other similar hobbies, like model airport building, like starting small, not getting too complex, and take time building it.) It also makes ya'll realize, not much changes too, even after 40 years, aside from the technology of course, and the names too (and even then, some don't change either.)
As my High School Trigonometry teacher would have said, "there is method in my madness."
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Of course, most of us always do give a good amount of leniency to folks which come from areas where English isn't spoken widely (in other words, places not called the United States or the United Kingdom.) Strangely enough, in most cases, those folks mastered English Spelling and Grammar better than all of us, myself included (and more than I think too). Sorta funny that a kid from the Anglophonic world can't make a coherent sentence, but someone who doesn't even use the language every day can write as if they spoke it from birth.
Sorry for getting on my soapbox here, folks. I have seen what happens when the folks who perceive everything remotely critical said to a kid from an older person is practically agism get their way. Quite frankly, you learn that even that crowd has a much shorter fuse than they thought they did. Ain't nothing wrong with getting him to do better in his posts. I do agree that there are limits though on how dark people should get to some of these folks. There is a very fine line from where things go from being critical to simply flat out, cold blooded bullying.
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But sometimes the older folks do have some great wisdom in where to find good ideas. Here is an example I rather discovered recently. Model Railroading, there is a lot out there online on considerations on how to make a decent layout, but not much out there in terms of how to get much further other than things like "Don't run your trains on the edge of the table." Many older folks definitely recommend picking up backissues of Model Railroader, and always try getting me to do so. Boy I didn't realize how much of a point they had until two weeks ago when a local model railroader club had an open house, and they were giving away old backissues they were meaning to get rid of, managed to pick up most of 1998 and 1972/73. Even the 40 year old examples have some great food for thought (and of course, offer some great advice that gets re-iterated in other similar hobbies, like model airport building, like starting small, not getting too complex, and take time building it.) It also makes ya'll realize, not much changes too, even after 40 years, aside from the technology of course, and the names too (and even then, some don't change either.)
As my High School Trigonometry teacher would have said, "there is method in my madness."
Of course, most of us always do give a good amount of leniency to folks which come from areas where English isn't spoken widely (in other words, places not called the United States or the United Kingdom.) Strangely enough, in most cases, those folks mastered English Spelling and Grammar better than all of us, myself included (and more than I think too). Sorta funny that a kid from the Anglophonic world can't make a coherent sentence, but someone who doesn't even use the language every day can write as if they spoke it from birth.
Sorry for getting on my soapbox here, folks. I have seen what happens when the folks who perceive everything remotely critical said to a kid from an older person is practically agism get their way. Quite frankly, you learn that even that crowd has a much shorter fuse than they thought they did. Ain't nothing wrong with getting him to do better in his posts. I do agree that there are limits though on how dark people should get to some of these folks. There is a very fine line from where things go from being critical to simply flat out, cold blooded bullying.
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Knowledge/information/technology can be learned by anyone to some degree. or another.
Wisdom is something different. Its about how to use the knowledge. Wisdom takes longer to acquire, and to a great degree one has to know that it is required before one can learn it. Its linked to morality and kindness. Some people never get it.
Sarcasm is a put down plain and simple, no humour in it. Taking on a school teacher task of sorting out a 12 year old who has the grit to come on to an adult forum is not our responsibility, and I daresay not what he came on here for. Best all round to stick to model airplane advice, quit the put downs and keep our sticky fingers out of his business and education.
Knowledge/information/technology can be learned by anyone to some degree. or another.
Wisdom is something different. Its about how to use the knowledge. Wisdom takes longer to acquire, and to a great degree one has to know that it is required before one can learn it. Its linked to morality and kindness. Some people never get it.
Sarcasm is a put down plain and simple, no humour in it. Taking on a school teacher task of sorting out a 12 year old who has the grit to come on to an adult forum is not our responsibility, and I daresay not what he came on here for. Best all round to stick to model airplane advice, quit the put downs and keep our sticky fingers out of his business and education.
Yeah, but as I said, to simply ignore and allow low quality nonsense too, it creates a larger problem and anarchy more or less prevails again. I've seen it happen, I've actually taken the advice myself to see what would happen once too (actually, took a break from that forum with other folks who were accused of "being the problem"). Ended as I predicted actually, PC crowd even got darkly sarcastic, essentially ignoring their own advice. Sure you'll have that small percentage who bail within a week or two, but then what about the others? Most forums have mods that treat this quickly (they can see the trouble right away), and taking care of the issue beforehand here it usually takes people to point out that it's hitting the fan (some might go to unreasonable extremes, like deleting their account right away, others will take the more reasonable approach to explain they should adjust their posting habits a small bit.)
As I said, I'm not making it about age, I don't care if he's 6, 12, 24 or 48. In fact, if he were the latter two, I'm betting the "Ignore it" crowd would be all over him in an instant! I'm betting the "ignore it" crowd too on this issue would be getting on their case if it wasn't for the usual people who did. Hypocrisy is an interesting subject to study. Some sarcasm is ok too, but only when it's providing some useful feedback. I always try to keep it useful when I can, otherwise, I just watch myself. It's only when it gets to just ultra dark stuff, like what you'd see on some corners of the internet, like a now deleted post when someone told him to put his head on a vise and continue squeezing until his head exploded essentially, is when it becomes just simply unacceptable, and I myself have even posted my dislike of such posts.
Either way, he had improved his posting style CONSIDERABLY, and I hope to see him become quite a collector in the coming years.
Essentially as said in a recent post here:
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This boat has sailed two months ago already.
It would have been great if you were around THEN, while this thread was happening, to give advice.
You now read it totally out of context of what was happening at the time and want to rebuke others for the way they acted then?
Where were you?
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Yeah, but as I said, to simply ignore and allow low quality nonsense too, it creates a larger problem and anarchy more or less prevails again. I've seen it happen, I've actually taken the advice myself to see what would happen once too (actually, took a break from that forum with other folks who were accused of "being the problem"). Ended as I predicted actually, PC crowd even got darkly sarcastic, essentially ignoring their own advice. Sure you'll have that small percentage who bail within a week or two, but then what about the others? Most forums have mods that treat this quickly (they can see the trouble right away), and taking care of the issue beforehand here it usually takes people to point out that it's hitting the fan (some might go to unreasonable extremes, like deleting their account right away, others will take the more reasonable approach to explain they should adjust their posting habits a small bit.)
As I said, I'm not making it about age, I don't care if he's 6, 12, 24 or 48. In fact, if he were the latter two, I'm betting the "Ignore it" crowd would be all over him in an instant! I'm betting the "ignore it" crowd too on this issue would be getting on their case if it wasn't for the usual people who did. Hypocrisy is an interesting subject to study. Some sarcasm is ok too, but only when it's providing some useful feedback. I always try to keep it useful when I can, otherwise, I just watch myself. It's only when it gets to just ultra dark stuff, like what you'd see on some corners of the internet, like a now deleted post when someone told him to put his head on a vise and continue squeezing until his head exploded essentially, is when it becomes just simply unacceptable, and I myself have even posted my dislike of such posts.
Either way, he had improved his posting style CONSIDERABLY, and I hope to see him become quite a collector in the coming years.
Essentially as said in a recent post here:
There is no time restraint concerning posting on older threads so if this really offends you I suggest you look within to what is at the real root of the offence that you are feeling. You seem to have little awareness of compassion, which, from the brief resume of your background, comes as little surprise, but it will render you oblivious to other points of view. Before you ask, I'm not a pinky, nor a tree hugger nor gay, nor a muslim, nor an Afro Caribbean, nor any bogey man who's out to get you. Just don't like your methods.
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I'm gonna reply to the serious part later on, but you left yourself open like a Klingon ship that's still cloaked by this inane part of your post. I just HAVE to pick it apart.
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nor a tree hugger nor gay,
Don't understand what environmentalism has to do with your sexual orientation, but ok... I mean, why WOULD I be against you if you were.
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nor a muslim, nor an Afro Caribbean, nor any bogey man who's out to get you. Just don't like your methods.
Now I don't like your methods either, as they're very ineffective, as I've seen, the "ignore it, it'll go away" POV doesn't work on forums like this, I have experience on that right there! But what where, just where did I say that ANY of these groups are out to destroy the forum, or even accused you of being in any of those... Oh, that's right, because I think being overly politically correct on everything must MEAN I'm a member/sympathiser of far right groups like BNP... That's the problem with PC, sees things in black and white.
Get your head out of your rear end here. Anyone who knows me knows I don't have an issue with any of those groups (well except enviros, most of those folks I met are a real group of misanthropes.)
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Not necessarily offended, just can't understand why the Politically correct here keep beating a dead horse. As I said, this problem has been sorted out. Maybe you should take your own advice and see why you're even wasting your time with folks like us that apparently have ultra far right wing beliefs (according to you) are CLEARLY worth your time seeing how badly you want us to be saved from our intolorant race hating, gay bashing, earth killing, fascist ways.
Just curious, where do you get your plain flawed analysis of our socio-political views?
If this really offends you I suggest you look within to what is at the real root of the offense that you are feeling. Hell, look at the one who is going around attacking people now. The worst I have done is essentially refer to anyone who thinks that age should play a factor in whether is call them Politically Correct.
Seriously, there may be no time restraint on posts, but there is some common sense, and I think most folks here feel that this is a dead horse, it has been dealt with and buried about a month ago, maybe more! Only schitkickers like Fleetlordatvar and JeffinMass decided to exhume it and continue beating it!
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If you were curious go do some research yourself, as the kid was told to do.
You were offended, I point it out and that's an attack ? Paranoia alert !
Seeing as you have sunk to the depths of blatant insults some might take the view that you are proving yourself to be a prime schit to kick, but I know its not your fault, its just your dysfunctional background.I love you man!
If you were curious go do some research yourself, as the kid was told to do.
You were offended, I point it out and that's an attack ? Paranoia alert !
No, the part where you started inferring that I thought that you were all those things, you were clearly trying to trying to tell folks that I'm some kind of intolerant member of the far right. To basically be told I'm some kind of Neo-fascist because I'd prefer to not see people post like crap, when I'm clearly not. See, I don't sit well with that, and won't sit idle for that especially. This is no different than little kids on school buses going around and calling a kid "gay" and telling everyone he's a homosexual because of that. I've lived through that too if you're wondering. So I know what an attack is thank you very much. Either that, or you were on the delivering end of it and never realized you haven't outgrown it.
If you guys are so concerned about Cyber-Bullying, you would have realized that you guys had just evoked that yourself just now... Heh, hypocrites' game I say...
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I'm not the one going around blatantly insulting people with baseless accusations of being a Neo-facist, I'm not the one who has gone around basically almost evoking Godwin's. As I said though, the issue was resolved LOOONG before those two decided to exhume the horse to beat again, per-say, and even better, everyone came to a reasonable compromise then!
Besides, you've been around these parts to know that I have a rather different approach to things. While I may usually have the best intentions, I can sometimes come out rather outspoken, and sometimes more passionate on the issue than I should be. Besides, if someone is wrongfully being accused of some thing they're clearly not, I'm more than happy to jump in and give them my part of the defense. With the issue in question here, I have been more than willing to show my distaste for the more malicious and crude posts directed towards him, while at the same time giving him advice on how to find what he needs and how to improve his posting style to be more effective.
-Am I bitter? **** yeah, I'm freightened to see how I'll be in my 60s or 70s really (considering I make it there first).
-Am I biased? Might have some reservations here and there, I'd be surprised if there was someone that actually had none. I do try to work around that by showing some attempt to understand. I wouldn't go after someone or show audacity to reply with a strongly disagreeing view unless I wasn't sure of myself, and on this issue, I'm fairly sure on myself here, or so I like to feel.
-Am I dysfunctional? Who the hell isn't really? At least to some degree. Show me a functional person and I'll show you the warp drive I built out of a Lawn Mower Engine. Even you're not without quirks despite your best efforts to show otherwise.
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1)No, the part where you started inferring that I thought that you were all those things, you were clearly trying to trying to tell folks that I'm some kind of intolerant member of the far right.
2) To basically be told I'm some kind of Neo-fascist because I'd prefer to not see people post like crap
3) when I'm clearly not.
4)See, I don't sit well with that, and won't sit idle for that especially.
This is no different than little kids on school buses going around and calling a kid "gay" and telling everyone he's a homosexual because of that. I've lived through that too if you're wondering. So I know what an attack is thank you very much.
5) Either that, or you were on the delivering end of it and never realized you haven't outgrown it.
6) you guys are so concerned about Cyber-Bullying, you would have realized that you guys had just evoked that yourself just now... Heh, hypocrites' game I say...
7)I'm not the one going around blatantly insulting people with baseless accusations of being a Neo-facist,
8) I'm not the one who has gone around basically almost evoking Godwin's. As I said though, the issue was resolved LOOONG before those two decided to exhume the horse to beat again, per-say, and even better, everyone came to a reasonable compromise then!
9)Besides, you've been around these parts to know that I have a rather different approach to things. While I may usually have the best intentions, I can sometimes come out rather outspoken, and sometimes more passionate on the issue than I should be.
10) Besides, if someone is wrongfully being accused of some thing they're clearly not, I'm more than happy to jump in and give them my part of the defense. With the issue in question here
11) I have been more than willing to show my distaste for the more malicious and crude posts directed towards him, while at the same time giving him advice on how to find what he needs and how to improve his posting style to be more effective.
12) Am I bitter? **** yeah, I'm freightened to see how I'll be in my 60s or 70s really (considering I make it there first).
13) Am I biased? Might have some reservations here and there, I'd be surprised if there was someone that actually had none.
14) I do try to work around that by showing some attempt to understand.
15) I wouldn't go after someone or show audacity to reply with a strongly disagreeing view unless I wasn't sure of myself, and on this issue, I'm fairly sure on myself here, or so I like to feel.
16) Am I dysfunctional? Who the hell isn't really? At least to some degree. Show me a functional person and I'll show you the warp drive I built out of a Lawn Mower Engine. Even you're not without quirks despite your best efforts to show otherwise.
I agree with you on item 16
The first 15 WTF !
Thou doth protest too much.
"Shakespeare's play 'Hamlet' is one of the most famous pieces of English theatre of all time. In the story, Hamlet's mother Queen Gertrude speaks the line 'the lady doth protest too much methinks,' which is difficult to understand if you don't know the meaning of the world 'protest' during Shakespeare's time. In this situation, 'protest' means to affirm, as opposed to the modern meaning of refute. Therefore, Queen Gertrude is trying to say that if someone puts too much energy into saying something is true, it almost makes you believe that they are lying".
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It's no use trying to explain and put things into context.
If people want DAC to go down the tube, then let them.
There are other options out there. I've broadened my horizons.
Will still look in here now and then and give a comment now and then, but I'm not married to DAC. :-)
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"Shakespeare's play 'Hamlet' is one of the most famous pieces of English theatre of all time. In the story, Hamlet's mother Queen Gertrude speaks the line 'the lady doth protest too much methinks,' which is difficult to understand if you don't know the meaning of the world 'protest' during Shakespeare's time. In this situation, 'protest' means to affirm, as opposed to the modern meaning of refute. Therefore, Queen Gertrude is trying to say that if someone puts too much energy into saying something is true, it almost makes you believe that they are lying".
Last edited by Fleetlordatvar; 11-21-2013 at 09:07 AM.
It's no use trying to explain and put things into context.
If people want DAC to go down the tube, then let them.
There are other options out there. I've broadened my horizons.
Will still look in here now and then and give a comment now and then, but I'm not married to DAC. :-)
Likely so I suppose. But to sit idle and not show disagreement, especially after being called a Neo-facist. No, I think this guy needs a long talking to.
Though I think this guy may have been trolling, most folks on the net know better than to un-nesscearily make a message board fall into Godwin's unless they're really trying these days...
Fleetloardavtr, go pull up some more old threads on long dead issues, please... You have plenty where I'm sure people would like to hear your defense of younger members from 10 up to years ago too, I'd provide you a list of you'd like...
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