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Old 03-24-2011, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Over at Wafflecollectables you can get !!!5 FREE ***PHOENIX*** MODELS !!! if you spend 100$

LOOKIE WHAT I GOT!

AND!!!!

NOT TWO BUT

That's right, three of these! SOOO EXCITING!
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Not what you were thinking? Me either.

This is a warning to all other collectors who use wafflecollectables. Waffle is having a promotion right now, spend 100$ get 5 phoenix models of *VERY IMPORTANT* "his choice." Now what a great promotion! What a great way to thank his customers! (The whole point of the promotion) That's what I thought. I was excited to see what kind of selection I was going to get when my order arrived today! You can imagine the disappointment when the above models showed up. Look. I understand, free is free. I'll still shop with waffle if he still will sell to me after this, whatever. Point is, if you're giving a gift, how much of a gift is it if it doesn't hurt a little? Any long term collector would know that these are after-thought-not-wanted-out-dated-models. I probably couldn't sell these for more than a few bucks a piece to those who do customs.

The other thing, why would you give someone three of one model and two of the other. Who wants that? Really Waffle? For my hundreds of dollars in loyalty? Thanks, thanks a lot. I'd rather have 2 decent models than 5 crappy 767s. These things weren't even worth the LOCTITE I had to apply to the gears that were falling apart when they came out of the box. I appreciate the service. I appreciate the idea, but next time, if this is what I'm going to get, then just don't bother.

So NOW YOU KNOW!

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Old 03-24-2011, 07:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Oops... maybe you could have those customised into something else ? Thanks for the tip though !
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I could understand that less than content attitude about getting 5 free 767s like this, but there are a lot worse things that have happened to collectors, and to ones who have paid a hell of a lot more money for models than what Michael charges.

Put them up on fee-bay if you don't like them.
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This thread would have been handy 4 days ago! But really, this is a blessing and a curse for me. After I placed my order with waffle (before I know what the free models would be) I looked at my collection and thought "I have only one 767 and no Asian airlines represented. I need to get a little of both!" Well, I got my wish :P
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This thread would have been handy 4 days ago! But really, this is a blessing and a curse for me. After I placed my order with waffle (before I know what the free models would be) I looked at my collection and thought "I have only one 767 and no Asian airlines represented. I need to get a little of both!" Well, I got my wish :P
Can you show some photos?
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Can you show some photos?
Of the new models? They're slated to arrive tommorow. Will post pics as soon as they get here. At lease I have a little variety in the models I chose- Air Koryo IL-62; Northwest Orient 727-100; Hawaiian 717; Air India 773
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I don't think you should have been all that surprised. Waffle puts barely sellable stuff on deep discount. The mystery stuff given for free, you had to know was the dregs.
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That's a way to do business! You won't get a Phoenix CX model for free!
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So you bought $100 worth of models and you received five models as a free bonus? The terms of that offer were pretty clear that it was at his discretion as to what models you would receive. Furthermore, they were free...what other retailer has a deal like that?

If you don't like them then put them up on eBay. Even if you get $1 for each model that will still be $5 more than you paid for them.
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People need to stop pouting and get a grip. If you were going to buy some models anyway, and using the LOYAL code gets you a discount on already low-priced models, then getting some POS models for free is like a 'so-what'. Sure, I was disappointed that they were nothing I would want in my collection, but that warranted a shrug and that was it. I got five other models that I really did want, and for just over $100...two of them brand new, the rest were AC Air Canada models to add to my fleet. The free models are going to someone who wants them for the cost of postage. I'll keep one as a donor, even though I really don't care much for the 767...such a blah aircraft.
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who paid for the shipping (additional weight), waffle?
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who paid for the shipping (additional weight), waffle?
No, I think that it is added to the shipping (cant be sure, though). By the way dylan, saw your post. Too far dude.
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that's because you have all of them, it appears.
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You would of seen this coming as we opened up a thread about these in the 1:200 a few days ago. we all got the same models.
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No, I think that it is added to the shipping (cant be sure, though). By the way dylan, saw your post. Too far dude.
Calling someone a whiny d'bag? The important thing here is the increase in female collectors such as you and eJohn. We need more women in the hobby and you ladies are a good start!
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Calling someone a whiny d'bag? The important thing here is the increase in female collectors such as you and eJohn. We need more women in the hobby and you ladies are a good start!
Im not a woman.
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But....your picture.....in the "Post a Pic of You" thread?!?!? WOW!!!! I am conFUSED! :/
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But....your picture.....in the "Post a Pic of You" thread?!?!? WOW!!!! I am conFUSED! :/
This post made me laugh. I now realize how pathetic you are. A 33 year old who has nothing better to do than to torment a 15 year old about his gender. Words of advice, get off your ***, get out of your mom's basement, and get a job, you sad, filthy, fat SOB.
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So if I have to spend $100.00 in order to get five 'free' models, are those models really free?

Gimmicks like this are asinine. By the looks of those models, they are not worth 'free'.
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OOOOK, this thread is getting sporty. Glad to see it generated some interest. Look. I may or may not have a reason to complain. They are free models of course. I mostly wanted to warn other collectors of what they were in for.

As far as the promotion goes, I stand by my principle. A gift isn't really a gift if it doesn't hurt to give. He just more or less, was getting rid of junk. His whole excuse for the sale was a "thankyou" for by-passing 15,000 orders. If his appreciation for my hundreds of dollars of business is just that, than is it really appreciation or is it cleaning house for spring?

If you want to jump into Michael's lap go ahead. I just wanted to use this fantastic form of voice for the collector to warn others of what they may get. Besides, everyone on here knows they're up for a good discussion.

Dylan, thanks a lot for your input, gotta say I got a good laugh. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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Just for the record, I spent close to 160$ on 5 other models to get these BONUS MODELS and did have to pay shipping for them all.
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His whole excuse for the sale was a "thankyou" for by-passing 15,000 orders.
How old are you? Seriously, you believe that if a business wants to "thankyou", it is actually that? It's ALWAYS a marketing gimmick to sell more stuff.
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How old are you? Seriously, you believe that if a business wants to "thankyou", it is actually that? It's ALWAYS a marketing gimmick to sell more stuff.
Hey, I'm a trusting person until you cross me. I don't think it's foolish to trust someone.

You might be right, maybe it was a gimmick. I'd hate to think so, because, like I said, he has gotten plenty of my business and has always done a nice job.

I would agree with you if we were dealing with a corporation, or even one of these manufac. for example, than yes, them wanting to "thank me" would be an eye roller. I just didn't think I'd get the shaft from my primary retailer. More-so a retailer that has been good to the collectorate. There are many on here who give him business, they should have the right to know that his good deal is like you said, too-good-to-be-true. I guess it was too much to ask for at least one halfway decent model.

Thanks for the input.
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Hey, I'm a trusting person until you cross me. I don't think it's foolish to trust someone.

You might be right, maybe it was a gimmick. I'd hate to think so, because, like I said, he has gotten plenty of my business and has always done a nice job.

I would agree with you if we were dealing with a corporation, or even one of these manufac. for example, than yes, them wanting to "thank me" would be an eye roller. I just didn't think I'd get the shaft from my primary retailer. More-so a retailer that has been good to the collectorate. There are many on here who give him business, they should have the right to know that his good deal is like you said, too-good-to-be-true. I guess it was too much to ask for at least one halfway decent model.

Thanks for the input.


Do you remember Woot and it's BOC (Bag of Crap)? It cost $1 + $5 S/H or something like that.

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And then people would inevitebly complain that they got nothing good, but literally just a bunch of junk, not even worth the cost of the packaging materials.

I personally never bought a BOC, because I know that nothing valuable is ever really free -- but most people don't think that way -- if people were rational, casinos would go out of business.

In this instance, I bet Michael made a bunch of $100 (and, in your case, $160) sales he wouldn't have otherwise made for very little incremental cost. Perhaps these were a bunch of models he had rotting in his basement -- perhaps he bought them from somewhere for $1/model just for this promotion. In either case, it was a very good business decision on his part, though, I agree with you, for his best customers, throwing in a semi-decent model would have gone a long way.
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If the models are free I don't see what to complain about.
Find some kids and give them the planes if you don't want to keep them.
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Hello Everyone,
If anyone who gets these models but would like to pass them on, as a budding collector I'd like to get one or even two of those Blue and Yellow Skymark models. I'm happy to pay for packaging and shipping, just send me a PM.

Thanks and have a good day!
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If the models are free I don't see what to complain about.
Find some kids and give them the planes if you don't want to keep them.
Its about customer appreciation. not about the damn planes.
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nothing is "free" in business world. In Chinese, it is said "don't give out things to others that you don't like"
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Of the new models? They're slated to arrive tommorow. Will post pics as soon as they get here. At lease I have a little variety in the models I chose- Air Koryo IL-62; Northwest Orient 727-100; Hawaiian 717; Air India 773
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Are we all seriously complaining about free stuff? Did you really expect to get Cathay 777s? If I would've given you Novair DC10s would you be complaining just as much? Don't expect anymore free goodies then. I'm sick of the threatning emails and all the negativity. As if all those 15, 18, 20, and 22% off discounts over the past year weren't enough "appreciation". Threads like this and the threatning emails really put me in a poor *** mood to consider doing something special for the future.
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Are we all seriously complaining about free stuff? Did you really expect to get Cathay 777s? If I would've given you Novair DC10s would you be complaining just as much? Don't expect anymore free goodies then. I'm sick of the threatening emails and all the negativity. As if all those 15, 18, 20, and 22% off discounts over the past year weren't enough "appreciation". Threads like this and the threatening emails really put me in a poor *** mood to consider doing something special for the future.
..... Maybe you should have sent them some cheese to go along with their whine instead. The only thing I don't want free is trouble. I may add, thanks whiners for screwing things up. My pal Steve had the right idea... be happy to get them and maybe pass them along to make someone else happy.
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I think it is only common sense to expect a retailer to move old or slow

moving stock by way of a special offer.

As Michael said.... what did you expect Cathay B777s ???

And they do say you should never look a gift horse in the mouth
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Are we all seriously complaining about free stuff? Did you really expect to get Cathay 777s? If I would've given you Novair DC10s would you be complaining just as much? Don't expect anymore free goodies then. I'm sick of the threatning emails and all the negativity. As if all those 15, 18, 20, and 22% off discounts over the past year weren't enough "appreciation". Threads like this and the threatning emails really put me in a poor *** mood to consider doing something special for the future.

I think that we should appreciate the fact that they are free! I've been shopping at Waffle for a bit now and I must say, Mike's got some of the best deals around and he's fast and efficient, too! I ordered that as well and it's on it's way to Canada. Even if I get 5 of the same models, it was all free anyway. If I really don't like the models that I'm getting, I have a Salvation Army nearby and a Toy Mountain toy donation nearby where kids would absolutely LOVE these planes! Yeah, they're not for toddlers or young kids, but I'm sure a teenage kid would like them. If I like them, I'll just use it as part of my airport or something. Either way, they're free, and I think that Michael does offer some good deals. If you bought the models just because of the free model promotion and you didn't want them in the first place, then you won't be happy either way. However, I made sure that I ordered some models that I really wanted (such as the IF200 American 747SP and the IF200 American A300), which are models that I would have bought regardless of whether there is a promotion. Even if the free models were all the same, I still want, and got, the models that I paid for.
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Well, I just received my planes in the mail today. But, instead of 3 normal livery and 2 DirecTV, lookie what I got!!! I couldnt help but chuckle as I pulled out Skymark 767 after Skymark 767 out of the box. I was complaining before, but thanks waffle! I will definately keep one, give one away, and use the rest for custom. I never did custom before, so 3 models gives me plenty of room for error! Anyway, the day was saved when I opened my 4 beautiful GJs that I chose. It aint that bad, after all!
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Also, here are the new GJs I got! I highly recommend each and every one, especially the Air India 773!



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Now that's odd that you received 5 of the normal scheme...
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Now that's odd that you received 5 of the normal scheme...
Oh, I thought that you were just messing with me. Well, we all make mistakes, and now I can say that I am a Skymark fleet builder!
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:38 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Getting 5 of the same models is the reason why I only buy models with a 15-22% discount code, nothing else.

What models did other people get?

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And they do say you should never look a gift horse in the mouth
I used to think a gift horse was a horse that delivered gifts...Are you now telling me the horse was the actual gift ?
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Send me a few of those 767s and I'll gladly make some customs for myself. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade...
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I was tempted to jump on the free 5 model deal myself but had enough stuff on pre-order already.

1. free or not i wouldnt expect 5 of the same airline or even model, but you guys did, if this had happened to me i would have been petty annoyed but enough to just take it, keep 2 of the models and either give the others away at cost of shipping or fee bay them, i guess the problem now is 500 skymaks listed on ebay at the same time and pobably worth $1 each, if you got $10-$20 for the models then what you really wanted would have cost 80-90usd a saveing of 10%-20% and still a free model or two.

I dont know how many 767s skymark had but you can get the reg number changed for a small fee each

* ( i think skymark once owned 7 767s, so just change the reg numbers)
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I could practice making flaps and slats on 767's! Thats what I would have done if i had those freebees.
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Nothing in life is Free. Even these "Free" models you got, came at a price of $100/-



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Wow, 3 of the same, and 2 of the same. That DOES suck.
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Well, I just received my planes in the mail today. But, instead of 3 normal livery and 2 DirecTV, lookie what I got!!! I couldnt help but chuckle as I pulled out Skymark 767 after Skymark 767 out of the box. I was complaining before, but thanks waffle! I will definately keep one, give one away, and use the rest for custom. I never did custom before, so 3 models gives me plenty of room for error! Anyway, the day was saved when I opened my 4 beautiful GJs that I chose. It aint that bad, after all!
I guess, I should count myself lucky after seeing your lot.

His offer also stated that he'd select RANDOM phoniex models to send out. Yeah REALLLLL random.
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I think the only question here is: how did waffle come to have so many of those things?
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I guess, I should count myself lucky after seeing your lot.

His offer also stated that he'd select RANDOM phoniex models to send out. Yeah REALLLLL random.
You should keep on posting, I can't wait to tell the other 3,000 customers that you were one of the bad apples to ruin it for everyone in the future! Oh and while you are at it, why don't you tell everyone here where I stated in the original email that it was a "customer appreciation" give away?

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I think the only question here is: how did waffle come to have so many of those things?
If you accepted private messages or emails, I could tell you....
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