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Ok im a late starter like many on this forum but im not willing to take out a 2nd mortgage on my home to bid on the highly sought after limited PAA releases by PanAm models (some of those early moulds aren't the best anyways) but watching a blewbucks L1011 "Clipper Eagle Wing" go for over $50, and recently a bunch of ex-National DC-10s that panam acquired from the merger go for big $$$, it makes me wonder why we dont see more choices out there. Is it a PAA license issue?

As many aircraft that PAA had operated over the years, why are they so limited in production especially by GJ since they do have a decent 722 & DC10 mould.

Clipper Goodwill wasnt the ONLY 727 PAA operated...
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Is it a PAA license issue?
Pretty much.
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Pretty much.
As im anxiously awaiting the release of the 1/200 PAA L1011, it makes me wonder why not license some 1/400 models also???
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GarudaRod has said several times that Gemini now has the license, and that we should be expecting Pan Am in both :200 and :400, starting with that :200 example.

These will fly off the shelves as quickly as they are made, I suspect.
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I have about 14 Pan Am 1/400 747's that I have acquired since August. I bought most of them off e-bay and they were not expensive. It seems that the economy is keeping the prices down. But I cant wait for the Gemini ones to come out. I know I'll be taking them off the shelves.
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GarudaRod has said several times that Gemini now has the license, and that we should be expecting Pan Am in both :200 and :400,
If they made a 1/400 747-100, painted correctly, it'd be most welcome. Nobody has yet to get it right in any scale, despite PAA's scheme being the definitive, original scheme which all 747's are based on and heavily photographed. Even the prototype has PAA's wing/stab/pylon paint, not the other way around.

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Bare pylons, not grey.
No corogard on stabs, at all.
Entire forward 1/3 of stabs bare, not merely the LE.
Wings have corogard only on upper surface--lower surface all grey.
Tailcone is grey on Billboard scheme.
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If they made a 1/400 747-100, painted correctly, it'd be most welcome. Nobody has yet to get it right in any scale, despite PAA's scheme being the definitive, original scheme which all 747's are based on and heavily photographed. Even the prototype has PAA's wing/stab/pylon paint, not the other way around.

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Bare pylons, not grey.
No corogard on stabs, at all.
Entire forward 1/3 of stabs bare, not merely the LE.
Wings have corogard only on upper surface--lower surface all grey.
Tailcone is grey on Billboard scheme.
Blimey.

You are very picky arent you!
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Anybody for some more A300's?
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Anybody for some more A300's?
Those 17 releases baffle me to this day and always will.....
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If Gemini does have this license, it would be nice for a manufacturer to do something unique with this airline and have them dust off their DC-8 mold and produce a DC8-32 model since PAA tried to light a fire under both Boeing and Douglas to produce the first blowtorch airplanes from a U.S. manufacturer in the late fifties that would greatly improve the industry.
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Those 17 releases baffle me to this day and always will.....
I was baffled with them for a couple years I think. Last one 'flew' out of here about 6 months ago. I ended up selling 144 of them - amazingly none for a loss.

Who knows, maybe JetX will dust off their A380 mould and bring us a flock of fantasy PA models - gold, silver, black, orange - you get the idea.
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Good thing for the collectors, the A300s will be some of the cheapest of them simply because of the large number of them that were around. Managed to pick one up at AI2009 for $20, seen them online for around that price too.
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Those 17 releases baffle me to this day and always will.....
It's as if they were taunting the collectorate by over-releasing the A300s while keeping the more sought after models scarce.

or perhaps just seeing how many suckers would want to collect them all
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Good thing for the collectors, the A300s will be some of the cheapest of them simply because of the large number of them that were around. Managed to pick one up at AI2009 for $20, seen them online for around that price too.
You know anywhere online selling the A300's, or any Pan-Am for that matter!
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Blimey.

You are very picky arent you!
I just feel the that the first, original, default, standard paint scheme of the 747---should have been done correctly in one of the half-dozen attempts so far. Especially considering that so many other 747's have similar, if not identical, basic paint schemes. How can all the others be done right, yet Pan Am done wrong, when Pan Am is the same/similar as the others--especially considering that the Pan Am scheme is the basis/reference for all other 747 wing/stab/pylon etc paint schemes.

Also, it's a *Pan Am* 747. It DESERVES to have an accurate model. Few plane/paint combinations are as famous/important. It's like a BA or AF Concorde in that respect.

Every single detail I listed has been done correctly by every company multiple times---on other releases! I'm not asking for anything new or more involved or more costly. I'm just asking for them to make it as correct as they've done on many other of their 747 releases.

Finally, Pan Am's pattern is among the simplest of all 747s. It should actually be cheaper/easier to do it correctly. Doing it wrong actually takes more work/masking/painting, because they tend to add on things that aren't there. (the tailcone being the exception, it is usually omitted)
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You know anywhere online selling the A300's, or any Pan-Am for that matter!
Yup, quite a few last time I checked:
Just Plane fun is one retailer
Just Plane Fun Corporation*::*Aeroclassics*::*Pan Am A300B4 Clipper Costa Rica 1:400 Model Airplane
They also have the other PAA A300s as well. I have also seen the PAMC and JetX (DW moulds) PA Cargo 747s there too other times I checked.
Then there is Diecastairplane:
Pan Am 747-100F "Clipper Fortune" (1:400) - Jet X 1:400 Diecast Airliners Pan Am 747-100F "Clipper Fortune" (1:400) #JET069P at diecastairplane.com
Pan American 707-320 with Ground Support Equipment: Airport Terminal Set A (1:400) - DragonWings 400 Diecast Airliners Pan American 707-320 with Ground Support Equipment: Airport Terminal Set A (1:400) #DRW56081 at diecastairplane.com
Pan American World Airways B377 with Airport Hangar Back Section Set (1:400) - DragonWings 400 Diecast Airliners Pan American World Airways B377 with Airport Hangar Back Section Set (1:400) #DRW56158 at diecastairplane.com
Then you also have a few on AdamJets
There are a few others, but I do not want to get banned for posting them here, I could send you them in the form of a PM though.
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Yup, quite a few last time I checked:
Just Plane fun is one retailer
Just Plane Fun Corporation*::*Aeroclassics*::*Pan Am A300B4 Clipper Costa Rica 1:400 Model Airplane
They also have the other PAA A300s as well. I have also seen the PAMC and JetX (DW moulds) PA Cargo 747s there too other times I checked.
Then there is Diecastairplane:
Pan Am 747-100F "Clipper Fortune" (1:400) - Jet X 1:400 Diecast Airliners Pan Am 747-100F "Clipper Fortune" (1:400) #JET069P at diecastairplane.com
Pan American 707-320 with Ground Support Equipment: Airport Terminal Set A (1:400) - DragonWings 400 Diecast Airliners Pan American 707-320 with Ground Support Equipment: Airport Terminal Set A (1:400) #DRW56081 at diecastairplane.com
Pan American World Airways B377 with Airport Hangar Back Section Set (1:400) - DragonWings 400 Diecast Airliners Pan American World Airways B377 with Airport Hangar Back Section Set (1:400) #DRW56158 at diecastairplane.com
Then you also have a few on AdamJets
There are a few others, but I do not want to get banned for posting them here, I could send you them in the form of a PM though.
Thanks very much LOT, that list is perfect, there are also some at Jetcollector for about $10. I think I'll definately have to get some sort of Pan Am model! Thanks again.
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We need some more 707's, DC-8's, and 727's. A few 741's wouldn't hurt either.
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Thanks very much LOT, that list is perfect, there are also some at Jetcollector for about $10. I think I'll definately have to get some sort of Pan Am model! Thanks again.
Even though I'm sure the A300s are not going anywhere soon, when it comes to 1959-1991 era PanAms, best to get them while you can. Sorta kicking myself in the butt that I waited on that 747SP back at AI2009. At least I got that A300 (and wouldn't mind building up a fleet of those eventually).

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We need some more 707's, DC-8's, and 727's. A few 741's wouldn't hurt either.
Let's also not forget the 737-200s. Only had 2 of those so far as well. Also don't think a few more DC-10s wouldn't hurt either too.
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In 1/400 we need

Never done:

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727-200 N4728 Billboard with stripe just like the 747

Hard to get:

727-200 Billboard
737-200 Billboard
747-100/200 Billboard

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or perhaps just seeing how many suckers would want to collect them all
Well, it was a win/win with a lower per unit production cost with all the retailers required to stock them with some diehard Pan Am Collectors buying all of them from the business side but I see a $9.99 sale or a clearance blowout happening just to get rid of them. I would call it the worse set of releases in the decade.....
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You know anywhere online selling the A300's, or any Pan-Am for that matter!
I have too many PA A300s in stock. Not as lucky as Slick Nick was but I think they will eventually sell. I have a few of the PA Moscow Exress 747 as well. I sell one now and again by special request but none are listed for sale online. I also have other DW Pan Am as do many of the retailers. Just look around and you will find them.

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Well, it was a win/win with a lower per unit production cost with all the retailers required to stock them with some diehard Pan Am Collectors buying all of them from the business side but I see a $9.99 sale or a clearance blowout happening just to get rid of them. I would call it the worse set of releases in the decade.....
My vote for worst set of releases since 2000 goes to the infamous JetX Braniff A380 jellybeans including the pimpin' gold, silver and black.
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Indeed, as mentioned above, we REALLY need a 1/400 DC-8-30, and a 727-200 in billboard livery would be helpful too! And a redo of 747-121 "Clipper Juan T. Trippe", N747PA, in the final billboard livery would also be greatly appreciated (as long as it shows the aft main deck cargo door, reflecting the aircraft's CRAF conversion!)....
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Some might be sick of the Airbuses in general, but I'd like an A310-324 done correctly (DW...not quite) and A310-200's.
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Am I the only one who thinks the billboard livery with cheatline is hideous?

I love billboard, no cheatline. I like cheatline, no billboard. Combine the two, and bleh.
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It wasn't even a "real" scheme, just a hybrid experiment, one of many variations they tried in the mid-80s.

Pan Am really only had about 3 schemes for jets---original (707 through 747 delivery), then revised titles and nosecone (which almost all 707s through 747s did receive), then billboard.
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It wasn't even a "real" scheme, just a hybrid experiment, one of many variations they tried in the mid-80s.

Pan Am really only had about 3 schemes for jets---original (707 through 747 delivery), then revised titles and nosecone (which almost all 707s through 747s did receive), then billboard.
What about the fat cheatline? Didn't quite a few wear that version as well?
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Eh, I'd have to check plane by plane for that---I still think it's an experiment. Kind of like the NW "light grey" planes. There were what, a half-dozen of those?
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Eh, I'd have to check plane by plane for that---I still think it's an experiment. Kind of like the NW "light grey" planes. There were what, a half-dozen of those?
The wide cheatline thick blue titles and the Billboard/Cheatline were experiments. Just like the NW "light grey", the US Airways 1989 neon schemes, and the United "ghost grey".
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