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Old 07-10-2009, 06:55 AM   #1
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I've just added a GJ 1:400 QF B744ER to my collection (VH-OEE), and on my example of it, it seems as though the No. 1 engine is taking off before the rest of the aircraft. I've just looked at the picture on the database and it seems that it has the same defect. Short of breaking it off and putting it back on again, there is no way to fix it.

Does anyone else have this model, and if so, does it have this defect? I'm usually a perfectionist, and I can't say I'm happy with GJ's quality even though they are meant to be one of the best. How does everyone deal with defects on their model?

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Can you please be a little more specific? Is it possible to go to the manufacturers to have them replaced? Are there professional modellers around who may be able to fix it? This isn't the only model I've got with which I'm not happy, but maybe I'm just too much of a perfectionist and other collectors are happy to overlook these imperfections.
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You Haven't Been On Dac Long Have You?

Anywaya Your Problem is Simple. The Engine Nacelle Is Plastic & Is Glued To The Pylon.
Simply Wiggle It Carefully Until It Bereaks At the Glue Seams & Re-Glue It In The Right Place.
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No, I haven't been here long. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try.

Do you have any idea how to fix a PH B77W with misaligned wings? The port side wing has about 2 degrees too much dihedral angle, and the starboard side wing has 2 degrees too little. It wasn't obvious to me until I parked it next to my other PH 77Ws.
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Hmm, how long have you been in this hobby? If such things bother you a lot you are in for some frustrating times.
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Hmm, how long have you been in this hobby? If such things bother you a lot you are in for some frustrating times.
My oldest model is ten years old, so I suppose you can say I started then. This hobby of mine has been an on and off thing since then, and I've never been bothered by small imperfections until I was introduced to Phoenix Models. Three out of four of my Phoenix 777s are spot-on perfect.

I would like to hear other stories of die cast model imperfections, and whether or not it is possible to fix them.
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This topic has been discussed umpteenth times... the search button above will probably yield the results you're looking for...

Models hit by Zinc Plague/Bending Wings/Bubble Paints/Cracking Paints

Adjusting engines GJ 744?

Model defects??

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No, I haven't been here long. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try.

Do you have any idea how to fix a PH B77W with misaligned wings? The port side wing has about 2 degrees too much dihedral angle, and the starboard side wing has 2 degrees too little. It wasn't obvious to me until I parked it next to my other PH 77Ws.
2 degrees???????
Why does it matter?

Probably the wings have some fuel-tank imbalance....
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #10
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I understand your concern, but I think the reason you have those concerns are because you haven't encounter defects far worse than what you've described.

Have you received models with cracked paints, bent winglet, horizontal stabiliser falling off, broken flap fairings, landing gears etc....If you have alot of experiences of such like I do, the imperfections you described really don't seem that significant and annoying anymore...
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I have the same issue with both my BA one world and Qantas one world.

Even though they have different engines for some reason the number one engine is slanted upwards.

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They can be bent dowards and you won't damage the model.
Just don't do it with a hammer. I have fixed a few of mine with problem before.
Or, get the DW version with the absolutely perfect pylons.
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In my experience, wings are rarely attached incorrectly---it's usually uneven landing gear causing the tilt.
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In my experience, wings are rarely attached incorrectly---it's usually uneven landing gear causing the tilt.
I had a look at it again and it seems that you're right, it's the landing gear rather than the wings. Never mind, I'm not that great a model maker, and I'm afraid if I were to attempt repairs I'd end up making it worse.


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Or, get the DW version with the absolutely perfect pylons.
I have found that Phoenix makes the best 777 models (they probably have the best moulds), so I tend to avoid buying a 777 if it isn't made by Phoenix.
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Hi,
only joined the hobby 7 months ago, just a quick question is metal fatigue a problem with Gemini jets bought within the last year?
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Models are rarely perfect. I've avoided all models that have the vacuum cleaner engine problem.
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How does everyone deal with defects on their model?
Deep breaths
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Blame the cat
and other measures (which if described adequately will likely get me banished from this forum for good )

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I had a chance to meet with the Gemini Jets owner. He was very much aware on the engine imperfection. The quality of goods that came out from China has so many problems lately. He told me personally that this problem has been fix....and the next 747 models release from Gemini Jets won't have that same problem anymore.
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All the manufacturers have some little foibles.

Ones that stick out in my mind were the Herpa A330s with the Rolls Royce engines - they are roughly the same size and shape as the CFMs on an A342/3. Doesnt matter how good the scheme is - its a deal breaker.

I was really disappointed in the Dragon A300-605R - no wingtip fences. WTF is that about?

One of my JetX TNT 744Fs has undercarriage doors on her MLG that touch the floor almost. God knows why. An otherwise stunningly beautiful model looks daft with all that dragging on the floor.

I used to have a couple of models that sat tail heavy or at least nose gear slightly off as well.

I think faults/defects are part of what makes this hobby so great.
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I would say you were lucky you got it in one piece!
I bought a Aeroclassics A300 model maybe 1 month ago, arrived in pieces.
As usual the gears were not attached, but the main landing gear, wings and central bottom part of the fuselage was apart from the main body, I basically had a Aeroclassics A300 submarine.
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I would say you were lucky you got it in one piece!
I bought a Aeroclassics A300 model maybe 1 month ago, arrived in pieces.
As usual the gears were not attached, but the main landing gear, wings and central bottom part of the fuselage was apart from the main body, I basically had a Aeroclassics A300 submarine.
Sounds like yours wasn't glued at all. I can just picture AK with dollar signs in his eyes telling the poor worker to ship the model regardless.

I had one Aeroclassics DC-10 arrived recently with its tail detached. The fix took a total of 1 minute of my time, so it's no big deal, I won't lose sleep over it, but it shouldn't happen regardless.

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Sounds like yours wasn't glued at all. I can just picture AK with dollar signs in his eyes telling the poor worker to ship the model regardless.

I had one Aeroclassics DC-10 arrived recently with its tail detached. The fix took a total of 1 minute of my time, so it's no big deal, I won't lose sleep over it, but it shouldn't happen regardless.

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IMHO, I found AC's QC is actually of very high standard compared to other manufacturers. All of the models, 36 in total I received from them so far have very little or no issues at all.

What I found is that phoenix's QC is in needs of serious improvements. Based on my personal experiences, I've received models from them with smudged wing rego, bent winglet, engines&antenna(B738WL) detached, crooked gears, not to mention the amount of paint defects I've got from them.

I also think AC stopped making DC-10 probably because of receiving too many complaints in regards to the glue issue. It's a pity though, since their DC-10 mould is by no doubt among the finest mould in 400 scale.
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As regards defects on individual models - i've always found DW to be pretty good - the wingtip antennas on the 747 classics used to arrive broken a lot but guess you cant legislate for crap handling in the post. Not had any problems with GM or PH either. JX are ok - only had the odd issue nothing major. AC ok too. Guess I've been lucky.
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