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Old 08-02-2008, 01:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Aircraft: L-1011-500 Scale: 1:400

Country: Great Britain Continent: Europe

Part #: NA Wings900 ID#: 19095

Release Date: 2008 Disc Date: 2008

Units Produced: Limited
Remarks: "Gulf War" Colors.
Window Code: W2 Box Code: NA

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Old 08-02-2008, 09:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, I have the white one and the grey one, I guess I'll opt for this beige one too...besides, it has a refueling probe!
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Very Interesting model, This may have to wing its way downunder! Can anyone tell me more about this plane? I'm assuming Desert Storm??
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That model appears almost the same color as a brown chicken egg.
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Very helpful for those that are picky about their eggs Norm.
It appears too large and not ovoid enough for my liking.
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That model appears almost the same color as a brown chicken egg.
Is that breakfast there, PW? Don't confuse the two, the model is probably not edible.
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Old 08-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Good to see more military aircraft out there.
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Is that breakfast there, PW? Don't confuse the two, the model is probably not edible.
..I think it was just a bad yolk!!
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Very Interesting model, This may have to wing its way downunder! Can anyone tell me more about this plane? I'm assuming Desert Storm??
In January 1991,the RAF painted two Tristar 500s in this scheme for the Gulf War and they were aptly named "Pinky" and "Perky" after a 1950s kids TV puppet series involving two pigs. The paint was washable and soon became very 'tatty'. One of the aircraft appeared at the RIAT air show at Fairford in July 1991 and by then it was looking distinctly 'rough' pending a complete 'wash and scrub'. The model needs weathering to look authentic, although it may have been like that immediately after its repaint. By the end of 1991, both TriStars had lost this colour and were never repainted for 'Round 2'!
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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It would be great to see an actual correct Tristar 500 mould used for a Tristar 500 series aircraft release. This GJ ,(Circa 1999), vintage wingbox mistake perpetuated by every mfg under the sun is frustrating and stops me cold every time its released. It's been a decade, could we please get a fix?

Dragon, do you hear this? Get your 2001 L1011-500 mould out of storage!
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It would be great to see an actual correct Tristar 500 mould used for a Tristar 500 series aircraft release. This GJ ,(Circa 1999), vintage wingbox mistake perpetuated by every mfg under the sun is frustrating and stops me cold every time its released. It's been a decade, could we please get a fix?

Dragon, do you hear this? Get your 2001 L1011-500 mould out of storage!
This is what you call a one wing fits all model to save costs.......
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This is what you call a one wing fits all model to save costs.......
A shame as some really great color schemes have been released.
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..I think it was just a bad yolk!!

You birds seem to have hatched a plan with no other purpose in mind but to egg me on.

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JunkCollector!

Now I am in hades. For the first time in my collecting career,
I have developed a complex about a mould. I'm a big RAF fan
and was just about to convince myself I needed these JX L1011's.

Then I looked at my Herpa Delta -500. Then I looked again at
the JX RAF 500's. I'm a big JX fan, especially their 146 and now 188.

But I for the first time I think i'm going to pass on a livery i want,
because for the first time if i buy what i want, i think i might not
like what i bought. DAGNABBIT Junkcollector, this is your fault.

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JunkCollector!

Now I am in hades. For the first time in my collecting career,
I have developed a complex about a mould. I'm a big RAF fan
and was just about to convince myself I needed these JX L1011's.

Then I looked at my Herpa Delta -500. Then I looked again at
the JX RAF 500's. I'm a big JX fan, especially their 146 and now 188.

But I for the first time I think i'm going to pass on a livery i want,
because for the first time if i buy what i want, i think i might not
like what i bought. DAGNABBIT Junkcollector, this is your fault.

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Dear ODB,

I'm a huge fan of JX and L-1011's; and have melted plenty of plastic in support of DW/JX/Brian's efforts. The number of JX product in my 400 collection is quite extensive...but I wont support this passed down mould in any way.
Doesn't anyone want to get a correct airplane and the scheme of their dreams?... If nobody raises the question, nothing will happen.
The powers that be need to know that an update is needed and jig is up on this ole' dog of a mould.

For those who don't mind this flaw, by all means have at it . ODB, that goes for you too!
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A shame as some really great color schemes have been released.
We get it...you're not happy with the L1011 moulds out there right now...Boo...Hiss...

Maybe go develop your own then and let us know how it turns out so I don't have to sift through all of the threads you bring up from 2001 (rolls eyes)...

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We get it...you're not happy with the L1011 moulds out there right now...Boo...Hiss...

Maybe go develop your own then and let us know how it turns out so I don't have to sift through all of the threads you bring up from 2001 (rolls eyes)...

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Your attitude is the exact reason why mfgs continue to roll out these outdated moulds. As for the 2001 thread. It's good information and a solution. Whats wrong with reviving a valid post? That's why they're retained in the database for future reference.
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Your attitude is the exact reason why mfgs continue to roll out these outdated moulds. Um..nice avatar.
Why don't you contact Brian at Jet X and offer him $5000.00 to update this mould. I am sure they would be happy with your offer.

Until then or untill a better one comes out 99.8% of those who collect this model will keep collecting it as they are happy with it.
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Why don't you contact Brian at Jet X and offer him $5000.00 to update this mould. I am sure they would be happy with your offer.

Until then or untill a better one comes out 99.8% of those who collect this model will keep collecting it as they are happy with it.
Never said not to collect it. I enouraged collectors to buy it if it suited them.
I hope Brian does approach DW for their version. It wont cost a cent to fix; its correct to start with.
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Never said not to collect it. I enouraged collectors to buy it if it suited them.
I hope Brian does approach DW for their version. It wont cost a cent to fix; its correct to start with.
It's collectors like you that make the manufacturers not want to listen when you constantly whine. All I'm saying is that you should put your money where your mouth is. It's easy for you to sit on the other side of your computer screen and complain about tooling that was created long ago. You're not offering any reasons why it would make financial sense to retool a mould like this. Do you even have clue #1 about what the costs are involved with something like that? (...and I'm not just talking about monetary costs) Lots of people on these forums are quick to point out "problems" but tend to run and hide when it comes to offering ACTUAL SOLUTIONS. But what do I know about the model manufacturing industry...

Oh...and Brian is no longer the owner of Jet-X, or didn't you get the memo...he sold his company some months back.

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The Wingbox is not the only problem!!!!!!!!
The wingspan is different on a -500 and so are the spoilers, flaps etc. A -500 has a larger span but neither BBX Jet-X nor GJ -500's account for that, and yes it is noticable when you park theirs next to a DW>
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lets speak the truth!!!! If you are not happy with your models, here is the right place!!! Release it!
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It's collectors like you that make the manufacturers not want to listen when you constantly whine. All I'm saying is that you should put your money where your mouth is. It's easy for you to sit on the other side of your computer screen and complain about tooling that was created long ago. You're not offering any reasons why it would make financial sense to retool a mould like this. Do you even have clue #1 about what the costs are involved with something like that? (...and I'm not just talking about monetary costs) Lots of people on these forums are quick to point out "problems" but tend to run and hide when it comes to offering ACTUAL SOLUTIONS. But what do I know about the model manufacturing industry...

Oh...and Brian is no longer the owner of Jet-X, or didn't you get the memo...he sold his company some months back.
You've questioned what you know about the model manufacturing industry....
From what you're writing, you don't seem to understand one of the most important components of the model manufacturing industry...that would be ME, the collector holding the cash. Yeah...over here, at the computer, at the hobby shops, and at the shows extending my credit cards, hard currency, and buying power.

I'm raising the point of this mould because I'm not willing to SETTLE for a sub-quality $25.00 plus model. IF you dont like my opinion, well that's fine, but it's my right. What would you say if you bought an expensive car and it had the doors of another model? Plenty I'm sure. This is the same thing. This is a Frankenstein model. Fuselage from one series airplane, wingbox, wings, etc from another.
As for as running and hiding....Here I am!, front and center, responding to your post. Regarding offering solutions; I have. Read more closely, you will see this.
Just sitting behind my computer screen and whining; that is also not the case. My variety of posts extend well beyond trying to get a decent mould from the mfgs. I'm actually interested in airliner art, 1;1 photos, collecting travel agency models, airliner books, airliner parts, vintage travel posters, among other aviation related topics contributed over the years here at DAC.

Regarding putting my money where my mouth is; I have. That is the whole point of my bringing up this mould. I am not spending one dime on this mould and have offered suggestions on how to fix it.

And PS: I'm aware of BW split with JX...That's why I suggested he try the direct approach with Dragon for their L1011-500 mould to rid the market of these poser L-1011-500's.
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You've questioned what you know about the model manufacturing industry....
From what you're writing, you don't seem to understand one of the most important components of the model manufacturing industry...that would be ME, the collector holding the cash. Yeah...over here, at the computer, at the hobby shops, and at the shows extended credit cards, hard currency, and buying power.

I'm raising the point of this mould because I'm not willing to SETTLE for a sub-quality $25.00 plus model. IF you dont like my opinion, well that's fine, but it's my right. What would you say if you bought an expensive car and it had the doors of another model? Plenty I'm sure. This is the same thing. This is a Frankenstein model. Fuselage from one series airplane, wingbox, wings, etc from another.
As for as running and hiding....Here I am!, front and center, responding to your post. Regarding offering solutions; I have. Read more closely, you will see this.
Just sitting behind my computer screen and whining; that is also not the case. My variety of posts extend well beyond trying to get a decent mould from the mfgs. I'm actually interested in airliner art, 1;1 photos, collecting travel agency models, airliner books, airliner parts, vintage travel posters, among other aviation related topics contributed over the years here at DAC.

Regarding putting my money where my mouth is; I have. That is the whole point of my bringing up this mould. I am not spending one dime on this mould and have offered suggestions on how to fix it.

And PS: I'm aware of BW split with JX...That's why I suggested he try the direct approach with Dragon for their L1011-500 mould to rid the market of these poser L-1011-500's.
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First, I worked for GJ for three years, so yes, I know what I am talking about when it comes to manufacturing these models. Believe me when I say you complaining about it on 3 or 4 forums does nothing to help your cause...no one from the manufacturers (except Klein) is listening to what you have to say...they stay away from these forums for their own sanity. You do nothing but make people think you are a whiner when you hit the same topic 3 or 4 times on 3 forums in the course of 2 days. Second, when I say "put your money where your mouth is", it means pony up some cash to do something about it, and I don't mean the measly little $25 you spend for a model...I'm talking about the tens of thousands of dollars required to retool an existing mould. Despite what you think, it's not just a "simple fix"...it requires man hours, money, and lots of patience...none of which you've offered to pony up. And I'm not sure where these "suggestions" are that you've offered to fix the tooling because as I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You say "could we please get a fix?"...fantastic, I'm all for it...how would you propose it gets done? You know a little about airliners, wow, I'm impressed. Now do a little studying up on manufacturing these things. I've been to the factories, I've worked with their employees, got photos of models being made, and participated in several of the models you probably own...so please, PLEASE, tell me something that I don't know about this whole process. If you aren't going to buy it, why complain about it?? Several others are, and they enjoy the models that they have. If people weren't buying them, do you think manufacturers would keep making them? Really...REALLY??
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In January 1991,the RAF painted two Tristar 500s in this scheme for the Gulf War and they were aptly named "Pinky" and "Perky" after a 1950s kids TV puppet series involving two pigs. The paint was washable and soon became very 'tatty'. One of the aircraft appeared at the RIAT air show at Fairford in July 1991 and by then it was looking distinctly 'rough' pending a complete 'wash and scrub'. The model needs weathering to look authentic, although it may have been like that immediately after its repaint. By the end of 1991, both TriStars had lost this colour and were never repainted for 'Round 2'!
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First, I worked for GJ for three years, so yes, I know what I am talking about when it comes to manufacturing these models. Believe me when I say you complaining about it on 3 or 4 forums does nothing to help your cause...no one from the manufacturers (except Klein) is listening to what you have to say...they stay away from these forums for their own sanity. You do nothing but make people think you are a whiner when you hit the same topic 3 or 4 times on 3 forums in the course of 2 days. Second, when I say "put your money where your mouth is", it means pony up some cash to do something about it, and I don't mean the measly little $25 you spend for a model...I'm talking about the tens of thousands of dollars required to retool an existing mould. Despite what you think, it's not just a "simple fix"...it requires man hours, money, and lots of patience...none of which you've offered to pony up. And I'm not sure where these "suggestions" are that you've offered to fix the tooling because as I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You say "could we please get a fix?"...fantastic, I'm all for it...how would you propose it gets done? You know a little about airliners, wow, I'm impressed. Now do a little studying up on manufacturing these things. I've been to the factories, I've worked with their employees, got photos of models being made, and participated in several of the models you probably own...so please, PLEASE, tell me something that I don't know about this whole process. If you aren't going to buy it, why complain about it?? Several others are, and they enjoy the models that they have. If people weren't buying them, do you think manufacturers would keep making them? Really...REALLY??
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My "MEASLY" little $25.00 (as well as others "MEASLY" little $25.00), is what pays the mfgs bills.
If this is the education you received from years of experience, I think GJ is better off without you. Your attitude is the worst. It's an insult to collectors and manufacturers.
If another collector wants to settle for this Frankenstein airplane, fine...Please, by all means, spend away. I posted a legitimate opinion and could care less if you dont like it. Take your years of know how and experience and talk to your mfg friends. Maybe then I'll post a compliment about this POS, and I do mean its a POS> This mould and anything released on it is the purest definition of a "MONEY GRAB".....Really.

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And PS: I'm aware of BW split with JX...That's why I suggested he try the direct approach with Dragon for their L1011-500 mould to rid the market of these poser L-1011-500's.
As Zack pointed out, I not only sold Jet-X, but I'm out of the model business and won't be approaching anyone including Dragon. They have their mould, they'll use it should they see an economic reason to do so.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The only problem with this huffing and puffing is that the manufacturers haven't gone out of their way to provide us an new mould. DW is apparently happy to sit on theirs, and JX, GJ et al keep cranking out the same mould. What would you have us do? If we stop buying the inferior models, the manufacturers will just stop using that mould, and we have nothing. They aren't going to tool up a new one, they'll just move on with other offerings. So I buy the inferior mould in hopes that one day a better one will come along, and then I'll dump these puppies like they are on fire.
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My "MEASLY" little $25.00 (as well as others "MEASLY" little $25.00), is what pays the mfgs bills.
Actually, hasn't it been mentioned by Zach and others, numerous times, that it is not the individual collector that pays the bills but rather the corporate/airline customer?
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Check this out:
A Boeing 2707 usind old moulds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH is THAT?!
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Actually, hasn't it been mentioned by Zach and others, numerous times, that it is not the individual collector that pays the bills but rather the corporate/airline customer?
So where do I get my free airplanes?

As an individual collector,(among thousands of other individual collectors), me, (our), money spent on collecting these models has stopped at the importers/vendor/sellers bank account?, and a corporate/airline is sponsoring this whole 1:400 diecast industry? Is that why so many airlines are going out of business? I thought it was poor management, and a bad economy that was causing the airlines to drop like flies.

Which corporate/airline is paying all of the manufacturers to produce unlicensed and defunct-(airline) airliner models to the overseas and domestic marketplace?

If my dollars aren't reaching the manufacturers, please help me out...I just requested that AC produce the two schemes BN used for their Flying Colors BAC 1-11's!
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Well it may not be the case with this particular model but the point was that the bigger manufacturers may be able to live without the individual collector. The fringe manufacturers probably don't care. If people stop buying their models due to errors they'll probably just stop making models instead of making corrections.
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If people stop buying their models due to errors they'll probably just stop making models instead of making corrections.
Sounds like a plan! Weed out the poser planes and sell the good stuff!
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I am happy that at least Jet X took the trouble to listen and produced a few new RAF Tristars, They also took the trouble to make a fuel probe which for a max of three RAF Tristars that had one was quiet and expensive undertaking for the few planes they are doing. As the runs are very short for these, profit must be very low on them.
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There's also another special Tristar on the horizon as well.
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My "MEASLY" little $25.00 (as well as others "MEASLY" little $25.00), is what pays the mfgs bills.
If this is the education you received from years of experience, I think GJ is better off without you. Your attitude is the worst. It's an insult to collectors and manufacturers.
If another collector wants to settle for this Frankenstein airplane, fine...Please, by all means, spend away. I posted a legitimate opinion and could care less if you dont like it. Take your years of know how and experience and talk to your mfg friends. Maybe then I'll post a compliment about this POS, and I do mean its a POS> This mould and anything released on it is the purest definition of a "MONEY GRAB".....Really.

DW did their homework...and it shows....see below....
CALM DOWN and refrain from any insults, Junkcollector!!!

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OK Michael just for you. Be sure to include notice to all those who posted insults.
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