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Old 12-20-2007, 11:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Full Price or not Full Price?
That is the Question.
(to paraphrase Shakespeare)
..... As time goes on and my finances get more tenuous, I'm tending to avoid as much as possible and any way I can to pay full price, even on models I covet like crazy. That is of course not always possible, especially with limited releases. An example of that was the recent Wings900 SWA 737.
..... But ordinarily I'm going as much as possible with buying discounted models. More so if the seller is offering pre-pay discount on top of that. Some sellers/dealers do, some do not. Some recent, highly desired by me releases have forced me to open that wallet wide open to get them.
..... The other alternative is thoroughly scouring eBay for bargains, hoping a low bid might make it. Although I loose more often that not, some of those wins have been fabulous bargains. An example is two different DW "Connies" for a grand total of $1.98 in two separate auctions and combined shipping besides! Some may sniff they aren't as good as AC, but 99c each? Those do not come along very often naturally (more so with Connies so my wins were all the more remarkable). The starting bids on eBay seemed to have gone up lately due to a variety of factors I can only guess at and certainly not privy to.
..... How about everyone else? I'm surely not alone and the collectors who pay full price on every model must be the rare exception.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Simple solution, get a better job or a second job
..... Suggestions? I've been out of work for more than 20 months in a area depressed for jobs and are the employers so freakin' fussy. I lost my last job as I had to have spine surgery. In spite of that my last employer telling me they'd hire me back, they won't and I'm not so sure the word isn't being spread around so other employers won't touch me either even though the surgery is no longer an issue. Isn't so easy. Ever have an interview where the interviewer is looking more at my graying hair than me?
..... Simple for you maybe, not for me.
..... Just because you own King Solomon's mines doesn't mean every collector is so financially endowed. With all the bills for this and that it is quite likely that all collectors find themselves in a bind to buy what they want or like every now and then. My employment history really isn't at issue.
..... Now that we've heard your very "constructive" comment...
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Being notoriously tight fisted with my money, I try to find the best deal at all times. I have bought a few models from e-bay in US dollars as we get 2 of them now to our mighty British Pound. I also try to pre-order to take advantage of a discount and a bit of haggling never hurt anyone. Toy fairs are a good source of models here in the UK and buying in the model shop sales also works for me.

I resent having to pay the full manufacturers recommended retail price for anything.
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Having known Dave Boyd for about 18 months and staying in contact with him most of that time, he has a few issues preventing him from being employed full time, so it's not quite that black-and-white. I sympathize with his situation, and yeah, I'm a cheapskate too...I won't pay more than $40 for any model, if I can possibly help it (in the case of the Enterprise/747 combo, I hit $55, but that was one of the very few exceptions). The vast majority of my collection was obtained for about $18-$22, waiting for sales and slow periods on eBay. But now, as I'm getting more choosy about my models, I can't help but buy mostly retail, now. I hate it, but what you gonna do? If you miss out on some of the more spectacular releases, you'll never find them for a reasonable price anywhere after the retailers sell out. I picked up the Air Nuigini, and it's a very, very nice model, and sold out...and I picked up a Zambia 707 that Zareh from Diecast Airplanes had specially customized with the green stabs. It really looks great. If I can avoid retail, I will, but it's getting harder nowadays.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My mistake, Zareh is with AirplaneReplicas...sorry Zareh, if you read this.
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I find your comments combined with your OBVIOUS political statements ..... despicable.

Dave asks a legitimate question and your response is .... an attack upon his lifestyle ?

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Old 12-20-2007, 09:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not much of a response, BK....
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It doesn't really deserve much of a response .............

I try hard to not rationalize with the irrational.

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Old 12-20-2007, 10:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The $$ spent or the price for any given model is an individual thing. I'm sure we all could think of other things to do with our finances that would be more expensive or less expensive. We all have our reasons for choosing to collect ing these little guys, which seems to sometimes offset the cost a little bit.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If ever I pay full price for a model I always feel as though I have cheated a bit by taking the easy option and have not worked hard enough to obtain it. Part of the fun of this hobby is tracking down a "wish-list" model and getting it for a good price. I only tell the wife how much I paid for a model when I get a bargain, and never when I have had to purchase one at the full price.
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I make an earnest effort to obtain the models on my wish list for less than the manufacturer's suggested retail price. I am particularly fond of the regular production run models by GJ, for the fact that they are of better than average quality and with most releases, they will begin to trade for a price less than suggested retail. In other cases, and with other model makers, I will pass on the initial release of a highly desireable model, and take the chance that at a later date, I will be able to find it available for less. Or perhaps arrange a mutually beneficial trade with a fellow collector.

I appreciate all the people that are involved in making models available at a fair and reasonable price. This is a wonderful hobby that is so full of history that it deserves to be fostered and to grow. I am fortunate to have a relatively stable source of discretionary income, though I do understand that it may not be so easy for someone else. Even with my passion for the hobby and the connection to the nostalgia of commercial aviation in the past, I search for the deals and the bargains and I relish the quest!
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am slowing down my purchases due to uncertainty in future expenses. Price of oil would probably go up by 100% next year due to government cutting subsidies. Then there is the problem of increase cost of living here. Price of bread has already gone up by about 50%. Before this I have been thinking really hard on getting the Boeing B777 roll out livery from Phoenix. Unfortunately, I have to pass.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't buy as much as before, but I am lucky to pay below MSRP for most of my models. Sometimes I have to pay a bit more for a rare model or two if I really want them.

Full retail price would happen if our hobby was adding more collectors. I remember buying a JXM019 for USD16.00
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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..... Sooooooooooooooo... not just me. Other expenses intrude on our hobby. We all remember that this hobby is a luxury, not a necessity. Car breaks down, big medical expense, loss of job, cost of living rises, etc. and that coveted model is not so important anymore. Yeah, I have my financial problems too and I have priorities.
..... The premise of the thread was basically are we finding ourselves becoming cheapskates? Most, if not all of us, bought our first model(s) at full retail. The we discovered other ways to buy, saving us money in the process.
..... On the other side of the coin the competition is killing some retailers/sellers. One seller I have dealt with is cutting way back. Another is leaving the business altogether. Some can't/won't offer discounts except when they need to "unload" an inventory of poorly selling models.
..... It's a quandry. Sellers find themselves unable to offer bargains and buyers with less free money to buy as much as before.
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i started the other way around, bought many of the cheap dragon wings / gemini jets models on ebay, aquired about 100 models that way , started getting a few monthly releases from dw and gj and now many aeroclassics a month , it is probably cheaper these days to buy a model at retail price many aeroclassics exceed there msrp by a fair bit and second hand dont lose much value ,
my finances were much more in control before i found this website but now i know every release every month it is very tempting , maybe if you cut your supply of information you wouldnt be tempted by whats out there .
Everything is going up in price here too except the salarys , we have the polish population to thank for that
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:13 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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I used to collect a large number of models each month. However, since my two little girls arrived on the scene (2004 & 2007), the resulting budget crunch has forced me to re-focus my collecting.

The result of this is that now I usually don't purchase more than 1-2 aircraft a month. This means that I don't have much of an issue paying the MSRP - as opposed to before, where I would shop around more to save a buck.
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