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Old 07-14-2007, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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At first I was happy to add this one to my collection, but something bothered me when photos came out : the cheatline shade of blue. Too "blue" on AC release (when compared to A.net photo above where it looks "turquoise", or even green on some pictures). As no one pointed this out, I wonder if it's just me nitpicking ?... Any hint ?
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Comparing photos on airliners.net to models is not very productive!
We NEVER use those photos to guide us, as age of photo, sunlight, etc can alter a color's true appearance.

The colors on the model are correct!
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Show me an old photo of an old airliner on a computer monitor that exactly matches what the real thing looked like in real life with the perfect light angle and I will show you pigs flying. Add to that the availability of the exact color of ink to match said paint hue (at which time the photo was taken after exposure to the sun fading, washing, etc) and I will show you a squadron of flying pigs.

Also, see Andrews sage advice (#3) on the '400 aviation' thread.

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Show me an old photo of an old airliner on a computer monitor that exactly matches what the real thing looked like in real life with the perfect light angle and I will show you pigs flying. Add to that the availability of the exact color of ink to match said paint hue (at which time the photo was taken after exposure to the sun fading, washing, etc) and I will show you a squadron of flying pigs.
Also, see Andrews sage advice (#3) on the '400 aviation' thread.
Although the USPS shipping box was suspect, I think the red was too red, the North Central models contained within looked just find too me. I have been waiting for this moded for a couple of years now. I will blame Nick for the poor color on that USPS Priority Mail box. I think that his cat pizzed on it or something. No mouse was found inside, however.

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Old 07-14-2007, 03:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's always what I thought about color matching on these models. The pics featured on airliner e-zines are aircraft that have flown for awhile, not fresh out of the paint stall. Exposure to high-altitude sun, high-velocity friction and washing, and just plain age will dull colors pretty quickly...I imagine that the model makers have access to the original shade specifications for those airliner liveries...or am I just being naive?
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That's always what I thought about color matching on these models. The pics featured on airliner e-zines are aircraft that have flown for awhile, not fresh out of the paint stall. Exposure to high-altitude sun, high-velocity friction and washing, and just plain age will dull colors pretty quickly...I imagine that the model makers have access to the original shade specifications for those airliner liveries...or am I just being naive?
Suppose too that some suffer from varying degrees of color blindness. My shades of blue may not be your shades of blue. Andrew's perception of blue may not be my or your perception of the same color. Fading, shading, over exposure and under exposure by film, sun reflection, clouds...any and all can affect color perception. If the color is close then good enough.

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I have the SMA -50 and AC -30. Both are identical in color scheme. Kudos to the Boyz and Kleindexter for their meticulous efforts.
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Well, some interesting answers, BUT :

- when comparing colors on the SAME monitor whith the SAME eyes, they should be close ;

- didn't mentioned it, but I also compared with books, and their photos were closer to A.net ones than model's ;

- I do know the difficulty of judging a color from a photo (sunlight, film used, weather...), so I took the time to compare many of them ;

- Netmodels released a model (a bad one, I know ) whose cheatline color was very convincing to me ;

- I've seen color shade debates here more irrelevant than this one IMO.


Now a few questions :
- what references are manufacturers using for their colors ?
- are our models supposed to represent an a/c fresh out of paint workshop ?
- if yes, what about hybrid liveries ?

Last but not least, I don't want this topic to turn into another catfight, thank you.
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no catfights here Mr. Mystere. But I am going to do my best to find you a 'companion' to take up some of that extra spare time you seem to have. The Russian girls are my favorites.
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My old memory probably has no worth, but I flew on North Central at least once a month from 1958 to the disappearance of Republic in 1987.

I saw this livery many many times and both the SMAC and the Aeroclassic models faithfully represent this edition.
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Just curious here Andrew, what is/are your reference for airline color schemes?
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no catfights here Mr. Mystere. But I am going to do my best to find you a 'companion' to take up some of that extra spare time you seem to have. The Russian girls are my favorites.
A Russian girl would kill him and then eat him alive. No bigger balzbuster than an Eastern European woman, as you well know, Slickster. That hammer and sickle symbol was designed for no other reason but to symbolize and pay tribute to the hearts of every Russian woman. I cringe at the thought of you pimping to him a Russka.

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A Russian girl would kill him and then eat him alive.
Something about this statement doesn't seem plausible...or maybe I'm being naive.
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A Russian girl would kill him and then eat him alive. No bigger balzbuster than an Eastern European woman, as you well know, Slickster. That hammer and sickle symbol was designed for no other reason but to symbolize and pay tribute to the hearts of every Russian woman. I cringe at the thought of you pimping to him a Russka.
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Calm down, it's Europe here, we do know how to handle women (and the reverse is true too ). No big b..bs fascination (a kind of modern Oedipe complex ?...) or phantasm of domination .

Now is it possible to come back to the topic ?
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