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Old 07-08-2007, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all;
I just wanted to share with all of you my last "experiment" with 1/400 models (aeroclassics in this case). Since some time ago i was thinking about the posibility of making some improvement and weathering in these models so that they would look more real as closer as possible to the real thing.
I must say that i haven´t added any new part or something like that, i just added some little touch of very thinned humbrol matt paint here and there, specially in the inner engine edge ( and i let the paint to flow up to the turbine), in the landing gear struts, in some holes like air conditing intakes or a little black drop in the middle of the wing landing lights focus (see pictures). Then i remarked the edge of the wheels with Tamilla silver (lack). The Humbrol paint doesn´t mix or react with the paint of the model and neither with Tamilla silver paint so you can clean the weathering inmediatelly if you put too much or made something wrong.
I think the results are very good but please judge yourself and say what you think. I will be doing this in the future to my favorite models for my airport diorama. (next to build).

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Old 07-08-2007, 08:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Jesus,
These are nice changes. Like wine from water however, I assume you won't be selling these ever because there is no way I would purchase a model that had been modified in this way.

The comet intakes do look a shmack better. Strange that AC didn't do that one.

As pleasing as they are, I think you may have blown their value.

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Love it. Enjoy your planes. If it is investment you seek, look to Art, stocks and bonds. Enjoy your hobby, that's what it is all about.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I had thought about this. Oil streaking on the wings. Engine soot. A common practice for kit builders. Like a woman who as added makeup always seems to look a bit better and a bit brighter as do your models.

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Old 07-08-2007, 03:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I was thinkin about gettin some engine soot and smearing it on certain models, Corgi have done some weathered models.
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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....As pleasing as they are, I think you may have blown their value.
.....I might have thought the same about a year or so ago. I wrote back and forth with one eBay seller. He had five or six auctions up of kind of crappy dioramas. Each was a poorly done tarmac and glued on (contact cement he told me) was a diecast model and GSE. He started out at about $15.95. There was one model (a Pan American 707 I think) that I had to think about such as it was, but the globs of glue on the landing gear eventually persuaded me not to bother. I wished him good luck and told him not to get his hopes up as in essence these models were pretty much damaged goods. He sold every one of them with multiple bids no less. So much for my opinion thinking collectors wouldn't touch anything in such a condition.
.....In this case, if he has done a very careful job of weathering, putting a little usage look to the model, he might actually enhance the value (AKA "customized").
.....Personally, I'll leave my models as is. The worst "weathering" they will get is when they become a bit too dusty.
.....On the other hand, airlines keep their planes pretty clean. A bit too much dirt tarnishes the image. Even warplanes are kept immaculately clean. After all, it does cost fuel to fly dirt from place to place.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The temptation to dress up your models with a little detailing is strong, especially when it would be a vast improvement in the model (like turbine blades, fuselage intakes, and lining out flaps), but I don't know any serious collector who would do that, since you actually devalue the model. I'd love to do that to my models, but this is the kind of hobby where swapping, buying and selling go on all the time, and unless you plan to NEVER sell the model, don't mess with it. Even those of us that plan to NEVER sell some of our models, it's not something we really want to do to our collection. It's kind of like coin collecting, where cleaning up and shining old coins can actually ruin the value of them, even though it improves their appearance.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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..... On the other hand, airlines keep their planes pretty clean. A bit too much dirt tarnishes the image .....
If you can be bothered, come over to my corner of the globe (Malaysia) and I can convince you otherwise without much of an effort !!
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I collect some models that I never plan to sell- mostly they are flawed to begin with. That way if you work on them it is no great loss fincancially speaking. For instance I retro fitted a Gemini Delta A310 with the newer rolling wheels etc......

Guess it is a habit left over from collecting Schabak planes which needed work every time
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I am very impressed by the looks of the wheels. I disagree with those that think that the modified models are devalued. In this case, the modifications make the two models so much more realistic that I would pay extra and I would prefer them over non-modified models. I understand that there are some collectors that believe die-cast models are an investment (or maybe they are trying to find a justification for spending money in this hobby). However, if you want to invest, buy stock or real estate. To me, this hobby is about enjoying the models; and the more realistic they are the more I enjoy them.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Despite the fact that the nose landing gear in netmodels dc-9 is a little off scale and fixed opposed direction (at least in all models i have seen...) here is how it looks after improving the landing gear. Next step will be making the tipically smoked and burned tail section. Now is when i start to tremble....

Serious collectors please don´t cry for me, these are repeated models in my collection and they will go in that dirty and smoked way in my airport model.

Regarding their value, i don´t know if they will lose or increase it and i don´t care but is easy to know if i put one or two of these models on ebay. Most probably i will do it just to see the results.

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Old 07-11-2007, 01:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have googled Tamilla paint but could not find anything on it. Can you be more specific on how you mark the edges of the wheels. Do you use something like a thin felt pen and run it through the groove between tire and hub to enhance the rim of the hub?
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Tamilla = Spanish for Tamiya
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yes, my fault... i must write Tamiya instead of Tamilla. Reference is TS-30 (silver leaf). Is in spray. Spray it apart and take from there. The other paint is Humbrol matt black (ref 33, i think...). Procedure is as follows:

- First study pictures of this kind of aircraft available in the web pages all we know. Some aircrafts have the rim wide and some other not. Some planes have grey hub or silver or is so dirty and is dark or black.
-Then use a little punch or a big needle to mark the groove between tire and hub. Do not press hard, do it smooth and circle it many, many times until the groove is uniform (this is to quit rests of cement into the groove). If you continue doing this you will also get an enharced rim but do not force it too much.
-Spray apart Tamiya silver paint and take it with a small detailing brush. Paint all the wheel (hub and rim) in silver taking care in doing a perfect circle rim. Don´t worry if the rim circle is not perfect, once dry you can correct it with the tip of the needle making the circle perfect.(i mean outside the groove, not inside ) You can clean the residues with water (wet cloth). Note that sprayed Tamiya paint dryes fast so spray again apart if necessary.
-Finally, once silver paint dry, solve the Humbrol matt black with Humbrol thinner (do not use other thinner). You have to solve it until paint looks like real dirty water or oil. Very, very thinned. Remember that this black paint will never mix or react with the Tamiya paint or with the model paint so you can put it on the wheel ( WITH THE TIP OF A LITTLE BRUSH) several times (waiting to dry every time). You can use this thinned black paint in the landing gear bays, struts and engine (inside the turbine). You will see how the paint runs and enharce all the edges. Let it dry and do it again if necessary. (Remember, very, very thinned paint, almost transparent but a litle dirty).
-The final step is to paint normally the centre of the wheel (hub) in the colour of each aircraft, usually in black or let it in silver (dirty silver after dropping thinned black paint).

Any question please ask.

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