Is it me or is this hobby getting boring in terms of new releases......seems like it is always the same type of plane or same airline set.
I love airliners and I have all my life but nothing has really drawn my interest lately.
I was waiting for someone else to say it first and I have to agree, the new releases look very nice but I have nothing on pre-order. And now In-flight will be joining the crowd with a 767 release,(like we don't have enough of those) in BAW worldtails. (now hows that for something new and different?).
I guess it depends on where you are in your collecting journey. I got bored with the new releases about three or four years ago and have purchased very few models since then. If I were just starting out, however, I would likely be extremely excited. I remember how much excitement some truly pedestrian releases used to generate back in 2000 and 2001.
Maybe the manufacturers have lost interest too.......and maybe they are less willing to take risks on new models or liveries.
I mean we have how many NW 744's???? but there are some liveries that are untouched or only 1 release.....and sometimes we get re-releases of the same model.....
I still love the hobby but the collecting piece has sure slowed down for me.
What happened to Dragon's Mileage Model Program?
The incentives aren't there like they used to be.
I guess it depends on where you are in your collecting journey. I got bored with the new releases about three or four years ago and have purchased very few models since then. If I were just starting out, however, I would likely be extremely excited. I remember how much excitement some truly pedestrian releases used to generate back in 2000 and 2001.
Last year I cut back a lot, this year I've cut back even more. I have to disagree with you somewhat on someone new starting out. The models we all bought back in 2000-01 are the models that are now not available to new people entering the hobby, and those are the models they want, most anything interesting PAA, EAA,AAl etc mostly US major carriers is only available on E-bay. If I were starting out in the hobby today, I don't see very much of what I would be interested in to make it worth the effort.
I was waiting for someone else to say it first and I have to agree, the new releases look very nice but I have nothing on pre-order. And now In-flight will be joining the crowd with a 767 release,(like we don't have enough of those) in BAW worldtails. (now hows that for something new and different?).
In your mind what would you consider to be "...something new and different"?
Utilizing a current mould. I ask because I was thinking about having a custom run of something made for me and I am looking for ideas.
For the record. The May Gemini Jets line up looks very good to me. Gemini Jets sell very well regardless of livery.
In your mind what would you consider to be "...something new and different"?
Utilizing a current mould. I ask because I was thinking about having a custom run of something made for me and I am looking for ideas.
For the record. The May Gemini Jets line up looks very good to me. Gemini Jets sell very well regardless of livery.
Goldy
If it has to be an existing mould, how about an AFL AN-124, AAL DC-3,, AOA L749, TWA B721, I think you can see where I'm going here. For those of us who have been doing this for while, I don't know about you, but I have all the 777s, 744/2/1 etc that I could ever need or want. You want a good custom run, lets try a Seaboard DC8-63, UAL DC8-62, or if you want real rare one, an AAL 727-200 Astro-jet scheme, only one or two were delivered that way, I have a photo. Do a twin pack with GSE, just get out of the middle east.
An AIRLIFT INTERNATIONAL DC-8 and DC-8-61. Along with a 707 and a 727 and of course a C-130. A DC-6 or 7 would be nice.
And since we are on the subject how about a new mould....like a Britannia in Airlift International or Cubana colors from the 50's.....pre castro/communism.
you get the picture. Enough said....Goldy, heres your chance. You a 'bundled' models before wouldn't hurt to do it again.
Or if you'd like how about Flying Tiger Line 727's or DC-8-61's. There now go em tiger!
I haven´t ordering a single plane for 2 months time. There is a bunch of north american releases everymonth so I had to pass on all of them. OK I collect Alaska and canadian aircrafts but...everymonth the same thing!
There is only one way to get our hobby more exciting: releasing more south american and russian types in 1:400 scale.
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I haven´t ordering a single plane for 2 months time. There is a bunch of north american releases everymonth so I had to pass on all of them. OK I collect Alaska and canadian aircrafts but...everymonth the same thing!
There is only one way to get our hobby more exciting: releasing more south american and russian types in 1:400 scale.
Santos,
I read about those birthdays and things coming up but I think you should look at this link and at the VARIG section.
I have all that models but thanks anyway. There is a VARIG model that I have been looking for that is the DW 772 PP-VRB. Hard to find.
Didn't know that there were two registrations made of that! I have that VRA in both livery variations. Good luck in your find now that I see the difference.
Didn't know that there were two registrations made of that! I have that VRA in both livery variations. Good luck in your find now that I see the difference.
Is it me or is this hobby getting boring in terms of new releases......seems like it is always the same type of plane or same airline set.
I love airliners and I have all my life but nothing has really drawn my interest lately.
Just a thought.
I completely agree. I find maybe one model per month to buy. I guess that's good for the wallet though.
For those who collect only certain types of models or specific liveries, it might seem like a slowdown. However, this month's US Airways from GJ is very nice IMHO and for the fleet builders out there, the 2nd reg on the UA 772 is great as well.
I haven't seen a LH 774 in a while, but I'm glad 'cause the Inflight 1:200 LH 744 which is due this summer (so I've heard) will run a mint (shame it's D-ABVA - "Berlin"). But Lufthansa isn't the only thing I like so therefore, even after 6 years of this, this month rocks and in time, I'll get several of those which catch my eye.
Some might think about diversifying their "stocks" so to speak. Branch out into books, pictures, what have you. I didn't mention the Airliner prints on EBay. VERY nice for a small price. Will frame them and add to the wall to compliment the aircraft in 1:400.
It's all good whether plastic or metal (or paper).
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Now where's that 747-400 club?
More Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic 744s!!
By all that is holy.... MORE Cathay Pacific (NC) and British Airways!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Collectors slowing down they purchases, and most manufacturers only release crap nobody asked for.
All these multipacks doesn't help it either. Most collectors wanted the MEA 707, not the 747. I didn't bought the set cause I only wanted the 707.
Add all the wierd branded moulds with that, and you have another reason.
Don't think so. The most releases are from airlines who don't exist anymore.
In another thread I read that GJ focus is the airliners not the collectors. I also don´t know but that frase was posted here in some place yesterday. I got surprised about that but..
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In another thread I read that GJ focus is the airliners not the collectors. I also don´t know but that frase was posted here in some place yesterday. I got surprised about that but..
Just ignore posts from the crappin' dog. Just by common sense you can see that he is just crappin' like he always does.
I have heard that the manufactures pay close attention to airline requests insted of collectors wish lists. Is that true?
Don't pay any attention to Dr. Evil, his only wish is to pop up in threads to start trouble, that's his agenda and if you read the threads here, it's quite obvious.
Gemini does pay attention to collectors, but they get their main source of income from airlines who contract large runs or in the case of the United, re-runs, this allows them to release other models that collector's want.
The post you read was a reply where someone asked 'why' GJ was releasing another United 777, it would be poor business to turn down an airline request where a model manufacture could sell many models thus generating a lot of revenue.
It is obvious Dan-Air did not request those models, but GJ could not release their larger runs of other releases without the help of the airline business, it's only common sense.
Dr. Evil claims to be so smart, I'm surprised he doesn't know how this works,
but, then again, his agenda is something totally different than the hobby of model collecting.
I would agree the past couple of months the releases haven't been that inspiring. Why do we now have 3 Hawaiian B-767's , granted different registrations and great for fleet builders. Point taken on United B-777 do we really need this release. As usual within a month of each other both GJ and DW release a Korean A-330. To me there is so much more out there that collectors want but I guess it becomes a licensing issue.
Mark
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I would agree the past couple of months the releases haven't been that inspiring. Why do we now have 3 Hawaiian B-767's , granted different registrations and great for fleet builders. Point taken on United B-777 do we really need this release.
Mark, the reason we have three different Hawaiian 763's, and now two UAL 772 NC's, is because of the exact reason Todd has discussed - they were commissions from airlines, and in both cases the airline has reordered additional runs.
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Mark, the reason we have three different Hawaiian 763's, and now two UAL 772 NC's, is because of the exact reason Todd has discussed - they were commissions from airlines, and in both cases the airline has reordered additional runs.
Not a complaint but rather an observation. While we did see the Hawaiian, Continental, EL AL, and UAL inflight recently offered to retail sale we did not see the Virgin Atlantic. I'd rather have a VA than the others. It seems to me that no matter what GJ makes they seem to sell very well. The only recent release that seems to be moving slow is the Ethiopian 737 and 767, Delta 767, and the ANZ 777. As a retailer I have a lot of confidence that any GJ product that I order will sell. I only need to guess correctly as to how many of each I need to stock.
I would agree the past couple of months the releases haven't been that inspiring. Why do we now have 3 Hawaiian B-767's , granted different registrations and great for fleet builders. Point taken on United B-777 do we really need this release. As usual within a month of each other both GJ and DW release a Korean A-330. To me there is so much more out there that collectors want but I guess it becomes a licensing issue.
Mark
The HAs are sweet and the different UA reg is great as well.
The Korean A330 is on its way to the house as soon as it hits the streets.
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More Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic 744s!!
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In another thread I read that GJ focus is the airliners not the collectors. I also don´t know but that frase was posted here in some place yesterday. I got surprised about that but..
Gemini Jets just released the very long awaited Calder 8 in 1:400. That was for collectors.
(It makes some business sense to release for airlines on their request, with a guarantee buy)
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Not a complaint but rather an observation. While we did see the Hawaiian, Continental, EL AL, and UAL inflight recently offered to retail sale we did not see the Virgin Atlantic. I'd rather have a VA than the others. It seems to me that no matter what GJ makes they seem to sell very well. The only recent release that seems to be moving slow is the Ethiopian 737 and 767, Delta 767, and the ANZ 777. As a retailer I have a lot of confidence that any GJ product that I order will sell. I only need to guess correctly as to how many of each I need to stock.
Goldy
Goldy I agree I would have liked to have seen the Virgin Atlantic available to retailers. As with you most GJ products do sell it's that matter of the crystal ball to see how many to order. With the Hawaiian and United it is a great opportunity for someone to get a model which may previously have sold out. I just perosnally think there are other models that could have been done first.
Mark
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With the Hawaiian and United it is a great opportunity for someone to get a model which may previously have sold out. I just perosnally think there are other models that could have been done first.
It's just not sinking in, is it?
The Hawaiian and United were ordered by the airlines, guaranteed sale!
Gemini should turn down those orders? (that would be a strange business tactic)
The airline sale is guaranteed profit now, the collector sale is not...
Mark, I'm very surprised as a business man that you don't understand this....
Shouldn't GJ drop the slogan "Made for collectors... By collectors"?
Why?
They do make them for collectors and they are collector's themselves.
Consider this, if they turned down all the airline orders, they could not afford to release the models that collector's ask for in the quantities they do.
They do make them for collectors and they are collector's themselves.
Consider this, if they turned down all the airline orders, they could not afford to release the models that collector's ask for in the quantities they do.
Business 101.
It's a win, win for the collector...
Of course, they should do what they want or think what is best for their business, but a different slogan would sit maybe better. That's all.
I wish the manufacturer would make models of some other plane. New releases are of the same plane. Hope they would do turboprops... (more YS-11s form GJ)
Who the hell do you think you are to write/suggest such things about me? Who are you?
I post things about GJ and you jump in it like you always do. You talk like you are more important than anybody else, well let me pop that bubble: you are just a collector with a forum who tries to be big big friends with any manufacturer. You're a groupie with an attitude problem.
That's the only reason why you attack me, and make this kind of suggestions.
And for the record:
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Originally Posted by Don Clipper Spirit
Of course, they should do what they want or think what is best for their business, but a different slogan would sit maybe better. That's all.
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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy
They do their very best to keep their business going so they can release as many models as they do for the collector
Maybe YOU have sniffed too much, that you don't see this.
I was just thinking that I have a great situation. I get to cater to everyone. From my perspective I get to buy whatever it is that comes through the pipe and then sell it to someone. A worldwide customer base with worldwide tastes. The guy who bought the Aero Franco 777 last month will not buy the UAL 777 this month but some guy who did not buy the AF777 will surface and buy the UAL 777. And so it goes. With this in mind I do not have to care what GJ release each month all I have to care about if finding the guy who wants it...and there are those guys out there, somewhere.
I am not a UAL, KAL etc collector. I only collect somethings. I hate that Calder thing but I buy them so that other people can have them. I get to be unbiased about releases, and I like that.
Is it me or is this hobby getting boring in terms of new releases......seems like it is always the same type of plane or same airline set.
I love airliners and I have all my life but nothing has really drawn my interest lately.
Just a thought.
After reading all the responses above, I think the first one said it best....and I would think the manufactorers would be a little concerned that collectors from 5 years ago are just not buying that much anymore but they don't seem to be. I would like to buy more but "Yawn", not last month and so far "Yawn" not this month. On the plus side, this situation has forced be to work on some new dioramas tailored to the old models that I have had for some time, of interest to me, but rather boring I would imagine to the rest of the collectorate. My photos are for my own satisfaction and a few friends, many I don't post anymore which has taken a lot of fun out of the hobby. Just a short time ago quite a few people were posting some great photos, you don't see them much anymore, I can only assume they feel the same way....Just my thoughts.
After reading all the responses above, I think the first one said it best....and I would think the manufactorers would be a little concerned that collectors from 5 years ago are just not buying that much anymore but they don't seem to be. I would like to buy more but "Yawn", not last month and so far "Yawn" not this month. On the plus side, this situation has forced be to work on some new dioramas tailored to the old models that I have had for some time, of interest to me, but rather boring I would imagine to the rest of the collectorate. My photos are for my own satisfaction and a few friends, many I don't post anymore which has taken a lot of fun out of the hobby. Just a short time ago quite a few people were posting some great photos, you don't see them much anymore, I can only assume they feel the same way....Just my thoughts.
I don't know, Steve. Things evolve and are different all of the time. Both plus and minus. I like everything about the hobby. I like to take photos, speak my mind on the forum, I don't buy every model, only the ones that I like. I get the Airliner magazines and visit the airliner website and look a photos and I go to SEA to watch the planes take off.
Not all of the releases appeal to me. Air France? Come on! Lufthansa? No. And so it goes. Just my taste. A yawner month for me is a woodie month for you or the other way around. My analogy is this. If you bought 12 issues of Playboy would you be able to say each and every month that the centerfold was the hottest woman that you have ever seen? Some months you might think that they wasted the paper that the centerfold was printed on and other months you might buy two copies of the same issue. It is the same with models.
Although THE DAWG can be irritating, some points he makes are valid, as I have spoken with some credible people. Apart from licensing issues, keep in mind that these forums are a small fraction of the model making business. In the end, for these model compnaies to remain viable and make money, they have to produce large enough quantities apart from a small group of regular collectors. Think of the diehard collectors on the forums as a side project for fun that is funded by the larger sales of more regular stuff.
WHen I first got back into collecting some 6 years ago, I saw 1/400 and 1/500 models in a toy store at the mall!
Yawn
And now In-flight will be joining the crowd with a 767 release,(like we don't have enough of those) in BAW worldtails. (now hows that for something new and different?).
personally I would like to see
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