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Old 09-13-2005, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Folks,

I've been curious to find out what the Braniff 747-100 Club Model by Gemini is worth these days. I'm hoping that one will pop up on eBay sometime in the near future, and if it's within reason, I would buy one, hopefully.

A few questions about this model:
  • What was the last known price that anyone has seen for this model?
  • How many were made altogether?
  • What makes this model so special?
Thanks for everyone's help in advance, and if anyone knows of anyone selling one, if you would please share this with me (or anyone else) that would be great.


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Here's A Link To The Database. Don't Know How Accurate Though. I Know Of One Collector That Paid $600. 2 Years Ago I Saw It Posted On Adam Jet's Site For $500.00
The Database Average Is $108 & Some Coin.

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...=&Model_ID=120
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Thanks for the link! I appreciate the insight, and at least I know that it might be something I can afford (justify). I was really afraid of it being much over $200.

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If I were you, I would look for the Bigbird400 version instead. You might end up paying a bit less, but you get a BETTER model simply because it was made more recently. The BB was made in 2003, and the Gemini was in 99.

The Bigbird mould is far better, and so is the printing.

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Thumbs up geminijets Braniff 747 number 1 club model

In the earlier times this model was very much sought after. I paid 300.00 for mine and in the end sold it for 150.00. Most of the value was in the exclusivity of this particular model. However like in so many other hobbies, someone (BIG BIRD)came along with a re-release of this particular model and its value plummeted. Anyway if your collection is mostly or exclusively gemini jets then of course this particular model should be in your collection. This model was also only availiable in very limited numbers which further adds to its value and of course helps to stop the total collapse of its value. Keep looking they come up and every now and then and the price that you are williing to pay isn't too far off the mark.
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This model holds special intrinsic value to me in that it was the very first club model of Gemini Jets. I have BOTH versions, Big Bird and Gemini, as well as the second Gemini version. But this particular model which I believe I paid $25.00 for when first joining the club will always stay in my collection.

I think there is the REAL value of the model.

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If I were you, I would look for the Bigbird400 version instead. You might end up paying a bit less, but you get a BETTER model simply because it was made more recently. The BB was made in 2003, and the Gemini was in 99. The Bigbird mould is far better, and so is the printing.
Thanks for the heads up ... I can tell that the engine detail and overall "look" of the BigBird model is better than that of the Gemini. I'll have to decide if it's more important to get a Gemini for the brand aspect or to get a better model for detail's sake.

QUESTION: Is there ANY connection between BigBird and Gemini? Their moulds almost look the same, except for the fact that the BigBird's don't have that unsightly seam/joint under the horizontal stabilizer that make's it look SO much better. Sorry if I'm a bit ignorant in this matter, I've been a bit 'out of the loop' the past several years when all these other competitor's came on board and I'm trying furiously ( ) to catch up with all the happenings. I appreciate whatever info y'all have about BigBird, and whether they are a legit contender or a pretender.

Thanks everyone for their input ... you have made my job just that much easier!

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Thanks for the heads up ... I can tell that the engine detail and overall "look" of the BigBird model is better than that of the Gemini. I'll have to decide if it's more important to get a Gemini for the brand aspect or to get a better model for detail's sake.

QUESTION: Is there ANY connection between BigBird and Gemini? Their moulds almost look the same, except for the fact that the BigBird's don't have that unsightly seam/joint under the horizontal stabilizer that make's it look SO much better. Sorry if I'm a bit ignorant in this matter, I've been a bit 'out of the loop' the past several years when all these other competitor's came on board and I'm trying furiously ( ) to catch up with all the happenings. I appreciate whatever info y'all have about BigBird, and whether they are a legit contender or a pretender.

Thanks everyone for their input ... you have made my job just that much easier!

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This Model Is Fabulous, Too.
There May Be Some Left In Store Shelves, So You Can Get It For A Reasonable Price.
Check Brinkley's Under Jet-X For Pics Or The DAC Database.
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As For The BB/Gemini Question? No They Are Not The Same.
The Connection Is Simple. They Know Each Other, But Are Competitors.
The Big Bird Has The Best Overall Sillhouette And Has A More Accurate Upper Deck Than Either Gemini Or Dragon.
Also The Landing Gear & Gear Doors On BB Is VERY Nice & Real Looking.
You Will Also Notice Engines & Pylons Are Different.
The BB 742 & 741 Also Has The Correct Length Wing Probes.
The GJ III Mould Will Have Them, Too, But Looked Kind Of Thick & A Wee Short On The Samples.

Having Said That DW Has The Best 744, But BB Is Very Close Second.ave Moulds From Gemini Are The 732 & SP.

Good Luck On Catching Up Yes You WILL Have To Be Furious.
There Have Been Hundreds Of Stunning Releases In That Time.
2 Years Ago I Had About 185, Mostly DW & Gemini, With Mabe 10 Or 15 Other Brands. I'm Approaching 700 Now, And I Still Missed A Hundred Or So Must Haves. 130 Are Aeroclassics, 70 Are Big Bird, Nearly 300 Are DW/Jet-X & Subsidiaries, 125 Gemini, And A Host Of Others, SMA, Pan Am Models, Sovereign, Aurora, Tucrappo/Golden Wings/Navigator, Phoenix, Green Box, Blue Box, Black Box And A Handful Of Herpa.
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This model holds special intrinsic value to me in that it was the very first club model of Gemini Jets. I have BOTH versions, Big Bird and Gemini, as well as the second Gemini version. But this particular model which I believe I paid $25.00 for when first joining the club will always stay in my collection.

I think there is the REAL value of the model.

Carry on!
There Is ALWAYS Value In Original Releases, Even If The Second Is Better.
In Your Case, It Represents A Time When Entusiasm Was An All Time High, The Hobby Was Relatively New. With Fewer Models & Brands Out There, The Few Models You Had Were Real Treasures. And You Pee'd Yourself Waiting For The Next Batch Of Releases. Intrinsic Value as Well As Monetary Value Was At It's Peak.

The Hobby Has Now Progressed To Greater Demands For Quality, Greater Demand For More Liveries & More Airframes, It's Now Heavily Commercialised By Comparison, As Output Has Met Or Outpaced Demand, & And The Proliferation Of A Smorgasborg Of Upcoming Manufacturers
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Not That There's Anything Wrong The Way The Hobby Has Progressed, I Like The Opprtunity To Fleet Build Reasonably Fast, Rather Than Wait For One Of Each Type Every Couple Of Years Or So, Just That We Define Collecting Differently Than In The Earlier Days.

I Have A Gen 1 Aeroclassics Canadian Pacific DC-6, Air Canada DC-9-15, Finnair DC-9-15 & Will In Time Buy More Gen1 Models.
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These Are The Reasons Why the Originals Will Never Totally Lose Thier Value.
But I Think We've Seen The End Of the $300 Plus Days.

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I got mine on Ebay about 6 months ago for about $100.00.
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I got mine on Ebay about 6 months ago for about $100.00.
That's reassuring! I can see where the demand for something like that isn't going to be as great now with the proliferation of models, as well as BigBird's version. Unfortunately, I'm primarily a Gemini guy, with the exception of a few Dragons, so I might opt to stay Gemini as opposed to BigBird, although for the price difference, I'm very tempted to switch!

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This (Braniff 747) is a prize in my collection. Happy that I bought mine from Gemini for my membership cost back in '99.

I have also noticed the price has dropped over the years on it, I'll keep my eyes open for ya as well Mariner.
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From last week's show on PBS:

Noel Barrett, Jr.: Hello, I see you collect diecast airliner models from the turn of the century. What can you tell us about this model you've brought along today?

Collector's Grandson: Hi, Mr. Barrett. Well, this model was purchased by my grandfather back in 1999, I think. It was from a company named Gemini Jets that produced these all-metal models of airliners that flew from the 1950s through the early twenty-first century. Most of them were 1:400 scale.

Noel: Yes, I'm familiar with Gemini Jets' models. The company was in business up until 2015.

Grandson: Yeah, grandpa said to me that all the models that could be produced, were produced, and so they closed up shop...

Noel: ...there were also rumors about some sort of sex scandal involving underage Chinese girls working after hours on non model-related projects but none of the allegations were ever proved to be true. Nonetheless, the Chinese government forced them to shut down operations and leave the country.

Grandson: Wow, I didn't know that! Too bad, the models are really nice.

Noel: Indeed they are. So this is the famous first club model, a Braniff Boeing 747-100. My records show there were only 500 of these produced and yours is in near-perfect condition. How did you come to own it?

Grandson: Grandpa bought it through the Gemini Club - he was a member back then - for 25 dollars. He wasn't much of a Braniff fan but somehow knew this model was different from the others released at that time. It was part of his collection right up until his death ten years ago. Grandpa knew I always liked vintage toys so in his will he left me his entire collection, all 4300 models. So I came here today with the hope that someone would know just how much something like this is worth. It's a piece of my family history to me, so I would never think of selling it or anything, it's just curiousity, I guess.

Noel: Well, in the first years after its release, there were some record prices paid on the second-hand market, in one case over five hundred dollars. But the price soon dropped when another company named Big Boyd, if I recall correctly, released the exact same Braniff model. They had a better mould with much more detailed landing gear and many collectors flocked to get the newer Big Boyd release and so the Gemini Jets club model value dropped quite a bit. But over the years the Gemini club release regained its value and today, it's worth considerably more that the Big Boyd release.

Grandson: That's because of the first club model thing, right?

Noel: Oh, definitely. Not all club models or many of the so-called exclusive limited editions gained in value and in fact, most are now worth no more than their run-of-the-mill brothers. But this one, yeah, it's special. Just ask any club member and they'll tell you, that is, if you can find any still alive these days. As for the value, I would put the value conservatively at 3600 dollars, maybe more on a good auction day.

Grandson: No kidding? Holy shit, Mr. Barrett, I never knew this was worth so much! Thanks! Hey, I have the Big Boyd version, too - how much for that do you think?

Noel: Oh, about 35 bucks, pretty much what your Grandpa paid for it way back when. You have a good day, son.

Grandson: You, too. Bye.
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From last week's show on PBS:

Noel Barrett, Jr.: Hello, I see you collect diecast airliner models from the turn of the century. What can you tell us about this model you've brought along today?

Collector's Grandson: Hi, Mr. Barrett. Well, this model was purchased by my grandfather back in 1999, I think. It was from a company named Gemini Jets that produced these all-metal models of airliners that flew from the 1950s through the early twenty-first century. Most of them were 1:400 scale.

Noel: Yes, I'm familiar with Gemini Jets' models. The company was in business up until 2015.

Grandson: Yeah, grandpa said to me that all the models that could be produced, were produced, and so they closed up shop...

Noel: ...there were also rumors about some sort of sex scandal involving underage Chinese girls working after hours on non model-related projects but none of the allegations were ever proved to be true. Nonetheless, the Chinese government forced them to shut down operations and leave the country.

Grandson: Wow, I didn't know that! Too bad, the models are really nice.

Noel: Indeed they are. So this is the famous first club model, a Braniff Boeing 747-100. My records show there were only 500 of these produced and yours is in near-perfect condition. How did you come to own it?

Grandson: Grandpa bought it through the Gemini Club - he was a member back then - for 25 dollars. He wasn't much of a Braniff fan but somehow knew this model was different from the others released at that time. It was part of his collection right up until his death ten years ago. Grandpa knew I always liked vintage toys so in his will he left me his entire collection, all 4300 models. So I came here today with the hope that someone would know just how much something like this is worth. It's a piece of my family history to me, so I would never think of selling it or anything, it's just curiousity, I guess.

Noel: Well, in the first years after its release, there were some record prices paid on the second-hand market, in one case over five hundred dollars. But the price soon dropped when another company named Big Boyd, if I recall correctly, released the exact same Braniff model. They had a better mould with much more detailed landing gear and many collectors flocked to get the newer Big Boyd release and so the Gemini Jets club model value dropped quite a bit. But over the years the Gemini club release regained its value and today, it's worth considerably more that the Big Boyd release.

Grandson: That's because of the first club model thing, right?

Noel: Oh, definitely. Not all club models or many of the so-called exclusive limited editions gained in value and in fact, most are now worth no more than their run-of-the-mill brothers. But this one, yeah, it's special. Just ask any club member and they'll tell you, that is, if you can find any still alive these days. As for the value, I would put the value conservatively at 3600 dollars, maybe more on a good auction day.

Grandson: No kidding? Holy ****, Mr. Barrett, I never knew this was worth so much! Thanks! Hey, I have the Big Boyd version, too - how much for that do you think?

Noel: Oh, about 35 bucks, pretty much what your Grandpa paid for it way back when. You have a good day, son.

Grandson: You, too. Bye.

Nice Fable. Well Written But A Little Biased.(There Is Always Some Truth In Lies) If the Club Model Would Be Worth 3.600 With A Seam, Then The Big Bird Would Be Worth 75,000.
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$3,600 will be the minimum hourly wage I imagine by then.

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Anyone care to wager how much Aeroclassics with the infamous screw in the bottom will be worth?

Naah, who cares.
Usually some bizzarre twist of fate will affect future desirability and worth...so I would not be surprised is SMA and Tucanno lines have a resurgence 25-40 years from now.
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Usually some bizzarre twist of fate will affect future desirability and worth...so I would not be surprised is SMA and Tucanno lines have a resurgence 25-40 years from now.
I Treasure The Few Tucrappos I Have Now,
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I saw one go for around $15.00 USD on ebay a few months back. Sad....


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I saw one go for around $15.00 USD on ebay a few months back. Sad....
Regardless of how old this thread is, the fact that one of these went for $15 is ABSURD! I would buy a whole case of them at that price.
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Regardless of how old this thread is, the fact that one of these went for $15 is ABSURD! I would buy a whole case of them at that price.
The prices dropped drastically on these old Gemini models with the seam and lack of antenna tipped wings. Club model or not, the demand is no longer strong for these models anymore. I remember the fantasy Aetna and "United We Stand" 747's going for quite high prices and now they can't be sold at $20.
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Reference to L1011 Heavy comment; I bought the DW original release from Andrew when he had a retail store about 10 years ago. Eventually gave it to PEEWEE as a spare parts bin after obtaining the BB model later.
The color on the DW was wrong as was the registration number. Sidelite on the 1 to 1 version; Boeing was interested in purchasing the a/c back from Braniff in 1981 when I was in mgt. for BN Maint. Dept. to study it because it had 50,000 hours with only 8000 landings on the airframe but the two companies couldn't agree on a price.

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The GJ version is still the best one IMO over DW/JX/BB. Its the only one that has it all:
1- The correct color orange pumpkin.
2- "Boeing 747" in black on the aft end.
3- White engine cowling ala delivery version.
4- Correct reg " N601BN " in white.

The BB version is one of the worst, if you see a closer pic its missing the Boeing 747, wrong color and the B and I in Braniff International is the incorrect font.
I could care less about the wing antennas at that point.
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