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Old 01-14-2022, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New releases from Aeroclassics. Loving the Ozark F-27 and the Miracle on the Hudson plane. Picture obtained from their Facebook page.
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Unless miracle on Hudson has box art I’m not biting
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Unless miracle on Hudson has box art I’m not biting
Panda have made that model previously too.

In addition there are BlueBox models - AA 737-200 and Azul A320 in the Disney clrs
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Unless miracle on Hudson has box art I’m not biting
And if it it doesn't float in my bath tub, I'm not going there.
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Personally looking forward to the Air New Zealand F27. It will be nice to finally get rid of the kitset model in my cabinet and replace it with some weighty diecast
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Why is the same Saudia 732 HZ-AGN from last month's release included on this list?
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Unbelievable! I listed some of the most wanted Caravelles that could be made on the Aeroclassics Srts.III/6 mould and sent all the research material to Andrew and here we are, totally ignored and now have been given another completely inaccurate Jordanian Caravelle 10R with the wrong engines – and even painted incorrectly- and still with incorrect cockpit windscreen printing for the later marks of Caravelle! Compare with photos of the real thing. In my requests for further Caravelles, I never listed Royal Jordanan Airlines as it is the wrong variant!!! After all the flak Andrew got from the inaccurate Air Afrique, UTA and Sterling Caravelles I’m very surprised at this and am not paying for a ‘fantasy model’!

The possible and most requested Caravelles that are missing and can accurately be portrayed on the Aeroclassics mould are SABENA (three variations), SAS (late 60s scheme with ‘SCANDINAVIAN’ titles), Air Algerie (2 schemes), Luxair, Libyan Arab & Kingdom of Libya Airlines, Panair do Brasil, Aerolineas Argentinas, Royal Air Cambodge, Air Liban, Indian Airlines (delivery scheme), Tunis Air [1st livery]. Air Vietnam, Royal Air Lao…and those are major flag carriers, that’s even before we get to the secondary and charter operators!

Why does Andrew leave himself open, trying to make late mark Carvelle 10/11 variants when there are so many Carvelle III/6 variants crying out to be made accurately and would sell much better?
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.

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Adrian, I could live with the wrong engines but the windshield is unacceptable. It should be such an easy fix but again and again...

BTW, why is it Calavelle on the model? I guess the dirt has been misinterpreted.
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Adrian, I could live with the wrong engines but the windshield is unacceptable. It should be such an easy fix but again and again...

BTW, why is it Calavelle on the model? I guess the dirt has been misinterpreted.
On all the photos of the real aircraft, it appears to have been painted as 'Calavelle'. Perhaps painted in China?

...and another thing, yet again the fuselage cheatline stripes do not match-up with the tail stripes!!! What is going on in the AC factory?
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.

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Certainly not on the real one!
A slightly unusual r, nothing else.



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Certainly not on the real one!
A slightly unusual r, nothing else.





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I agree. I believe that is simply an unusual letter 'r'.
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I agree. I believe that is simply an unusual letter 'r'.

Yep, that's what the letter "r" looks like in many handwriting fonts - and some Caravelle operators have chosen that font
...and Aeroclassics correctly replicated its looks, which deserves a praise as AC usually isn't the prime example for nailing titles and fonts.


Edit: Ok, had a closer look on the AC model and, well, I think I need to withdraw the praise.

That indeed definitely reads "Calavelle".
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I believe there is special box art for the Miracle on Hudson model.
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Yep, that's what the letter "r" looks like in many handwriting fonts - and some Caravelle operators have chosen that font
...and Aeroclassics correctly replicated its looks, which deserves a praise as AC usually isn't the prime example for nailing titles and fonts.


Edit: Ok, had a closer look on the AC model and, well, I think I need to withdraw the praise.

That indeed definitely reads "Calavelle".
The black line in the attached picture marks the upper end of the non-capital letters. Even the ‘r’ ends there. Anything else is a structure and additional dirt on the engine nacelle. Either AeroClassics copied that structure perfectly or they just missed the fact that it was not a ‘Calavelle’…
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The black line in the attached picture marks the upper end of the non-capital letters. Even the ‘r’ ends there. Anything else is a structure and additional dirt on the engine nacelle. …
No. Look again. Or look at how the "r" is hand written by many (and in many fonts) - you write it different apparently.
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No. Look again. Or look at how the "r" is hand written by many (and in many fonts) - you write it different apparently.
I guess you’re wrong. Just look how the r’s ascending part is incontinuously going upwards. It actually isn’t part of the ‘r’.
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Thanks! I stand corrected. The upper circle of the ‘r’ isn’t reaching as far as upwards as the ‘Calavelle’ fiasco of AC but it’s definitely going higher than the other letters.

Still, can anyone name the font?
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I think an L is an appropriate substitute for this rather pretentious R given the size of these letters in 1/400. So I have no problem there...I can also live with the skinny engines...it's the windshield that spoils it for me.
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I think an L is an appropriate substitute for this rather pretentious R given the size of these letters in 1/400. So I have no problem there...I can also live with the skinny engines...it's the windshield that spoils it for me.
In general, you are correct, of course. The wrong windshield applied to this version of the Caravelle is a no-go.

However, I would have preferred an ‘r’ written in that same font as all the other letters of the word ‘Ca-avelle’ were written in - which means they obviously had the font, didn’t they? - so this seems to be nothing else but inadequate production design and/or insufficient quality control.
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In general, you are correct, of course. The wrong windshield applied to this version of the Caravelle is a no-go.
This was mentioned to Andrew after he released the inaccurate Air Afrique 'Caravelle 10', then again with the Sterling 'Caravelle 10' and yet again with the UTA 'Caravelle 10'. Even the recent Iberia delivery scheme Caravelle 6 had this revised enlarged cockpit window, but still he fails to get a simple pad printing change made for this latest 'Caravelle 10's cockpit windscreen!! How hard can it be?
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Aeroclassics clearly took the bizarre way of writing the "r", on the real airplane preceded by a curl, for and "l" (click on the pictures to enlarge) :



Or, who knows, maybe it was done deliberately because they wanted to use an existing font for the tampo...

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Funny that Air Afrique was mentioned because Afrique was the other airline besides Alia to have the "Caravelle" lettering that way...
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Unbelievable! I listed some of the most wanted Caravelles that could be made on the Aeroclassics Srts.III/6 mould and sent all the research material to Andrew and here we are, totally ignored and now have been given another completely inaccurate Jordanian Caravelle 10R with the wrong engines – and even painted incorrectly- and still with incorrect cockpit windscreen printing for the later marks of Caravelle! Compare with photos of the real thing. In my requests for further Caravelles, I never listed Royal Jordanan Airlines as it is the wrong variant!!! After all the flak Andrew got from the inaccurate Air Afrique, UTA and Sterling Caravelles I’m very surprised at this and am not paying for a ‘fantasy model’!

The possible and most requested Caravelles that are missing and can accurately be portrayed on the Aeroclassics mould are SABENA (three variations), SAS (late 60s scheme with ‘SCANDINAVIAN’ titles), Air Algerie (2 schemes), Luxair, Libyan Arab & Kingdom of Libya Airlines, Panair do Brasil, Aerolineas Argentinas, Royal Air Cambodge, Air Liban, Indian Airlines (delivery scheme), Tunis Air [1st livery]. Air Vietnam, Royal Air Lao…and those are major flag carriers, that’s even before we get to the secondary and charter operators!

Why does Andrew leave himself open, trying to make late mark Carvelle 10/11 variants when there are so many Carvelle III/6 variants crying out to be made accurately and would sell much better?
And Andrew keeps making mediocre 737 max models!!
He should leave them to the other manufacturers.
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That's a rather fanclily written cursive 'r' which could be mistaken for a 'l' on such a small scale if not for the other 2 'l's in the same word.... That model definitely has 'Calavelle' with 3 'l's rather than the proper 'Caravelle'


Also does AC ever post something larger than a compressed 200px wide jpeg for their new releases announcement? I can't read a thing on this image
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The "r" in Caravelle appears to be a Latin accent mark with a right upright rounded mark. Example: ŕ

As per Madridista's photo, the spelling is cursive. So, it appears the accent mark is more stylized.

As per Phantom II's comment on Air Afrique, the diacritical mark is even more stylized.
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The number of people on this forum who are trying to argue what a cursive/handwritten lower-case r is too damn high! You cannot justify the unjustifiable. There are no accents on the word Caravelle, nor are there ever any accents on the letter R/r in the French language!

It is very obvious that it is misprinted as Calavelle, now can everyone move on?!
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The "r" in Caravelle appears to be a Latin accent mark with a right upright rounded mark. Example: ŕ

As per Madridista's photo, the spelling is cursive. So, it appears the accent mark is more stylized.

As per Phantom II's comment on Air Afrique, the diacritical mark is even more stylized.

I'm amazed about the volume of discussion one can have about a single letter on a model aircraft forum.

Again, what you see there is a script letter "r" the way it is taught in countries like France. It looks different to what is taught in many other countries like Germany. I have seen it that way but don't use it, but my father considers this a usual classic "r" or "round r" as he was taught in school back in the days. He agreed that those Caravelles had it written on in a rather fancy style.
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The number of people on this forum who are trying to argue what a cursive/handwritten lower-case r is too damn high! You cannot justify the unjustifiable. There are no accents on the word Caravelle, nor are there ever any accents on the letter R/r in the French language!

It is very obvious that it is misprinted as Calavelle, now can everyone move on?!
Who said anything about the accents of R/r in the French language? I didn't.

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I'm amazed about the volume of discussion one can have about a single letter on a model aircraft forum.

Again, what you see there is a script letter "r" the way it is taught in countries like France. It looks different to what is taught in many other countries like Germany. I have seen it that way but don't use it, but my father considers this a usual classic "r" or "round r" as he was taught in school back in the days. He agreed that those Caravelles had it written on in a rather fancy style.
I'm not amazed about this discussion of a single letter. After all, this hobby, like others is all about detail. Plus, I like to learn about such things.

I tend to agree with you and your father. Yet, ŕ is a descendant of diacritics in the Latin alphabet. So, until someone has surefire proof, I'll keep an open mind to script or diacritics. Of course, it's not like we can reach into the minds of those who decided to spell Caravelle the way they did on ALIA and Air Afrique.
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Ah so, velly nice!
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This is the most inane discussion for a sleeper model that 95% of collectors won’t even have on their radar.
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Ah so, velly nice!

Indeed Adlian
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Who said anything about the accents of R/r in the French language? I didn't.

Presumably this inference was drawn because the Caravelle was made in France??
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This is the most inane discussion for a sleeper model that 95% of collectors won’t even have on their radar.
And this makes it a…?!? Pointless release?!? Open for any errors or defects?!? I don’t understand what you‘re trying to say, shaldaken.
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Ah so, velly nice!
Oh dear...It's 2022.
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