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Old 08-26-2021, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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With so many retailer exclusives Panda's own models seem like a lower priority, however the Tu-134s are their most interesting releases and from what I am seeing on Chinese sites they are all on their way along with the Boris Force Two A321. Here are the first photos:

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I'm going to be very happy when those three Tupi's come home to roost!
Panda seem to be playing it rather cautiously with this mould, with few releases all being characterised by long lead times between announcement and release. I'd like to see them shift it up a gear, but I guess I can understand their caution. Interesting times ahead!
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I ordered an Aeroflot "Official Olympic Carrier" and eagerly await its arrival.
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Too bad the wing registration printing is so kokked up!!

I guess when the bottomfeeders have nobody else's work to copy, the mistakes are more numerous!!
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Too bad the wing registration printing is so kokked up!!

I guess when the bottomfeeders have nobody else's work to copy, the mistakes are more numerous!!
Better that than fantasy regs
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Too bad the wing registration printing is so kokked up!!

I guess when the bottomfeeders have nobody else's work to copy, the mistakes are more numerous!!
... at least they have details worthy of 2021 models!
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The 134 look superb!
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Which Chinese sites have these ? I've given up on Engtaobao now. No matter what I type in the search box, it only seems to able to conjur up 800 pairs of knock off Nike trainers!
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Too bad the wing registration printing is so kokked up!!

I guess when the bottomfeeders have nobody else's work to copy, the mistakes are more numerous!!
Hehehe

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AK, you should release a few under "Catfish 400" similar to some of your past releases like CJWings, ETC.

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AK, you should release a few under "Catfish 400" similar to some of your past releases like CJWings, ETC.
I like your way of thinking John!!! Have a great weekend buddy!!


p.s. I like the NoGood apologists above, who instead of trying to defend the error, just divert their nonsensical comments elsewhere, or just choose to ignore the errors. Imagine if GJ or AC would have made the same errors!! The sky would be falling down!! What a bunch of hypocrites!!
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Which Chinese sites have these ? I've given up on Engtaobao now. No matter what I type in the search box, it only seems to able to conjur up 800 pairs of knock off Nike trainers!
Do your searching on taobao itself and use the registration as the search. That part usually isn't in Chinese characters and so gets found. They are at multiple stores - the usual ones that sell Panda and a few others
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Incidentally I'm not sure what your issue is with the wing regs of the 134s Andrew, as when you criticise you tend to throw accusations around without actually providing any evidence. They look fine to me.

It is hard to find images of Aeroflot Tu-134s where you can clearly see the wingtops but looking at Airliners.net from what I can see the spacing of the CCCP is correct due to the position of the wing strake:

See here and here and here for evidence
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Which Chinese sites have these ? I've given up on Engtaobao now. No matter what I type in the search box, it only seems to able to conjur up 800 pairs of knock off Nike trainers!
Aviation Center Berlin have these TU-134 on pre-order if you can/want to order from Germany.

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The wing fence does indeed cause something of a spacing gap in the C CCP rego, however IMHO Panda has overdone this a bit, but I'll live with it for a couple of reasons;

- I'm not in the micrometer brigade anyway, despite being a plastic kit builder.
- I don't see anyone else ever producing a 134 in this scale, an aircraft I have wanted to have in my collection for years, having actually seen & flown on them a fair bit.
- If, when I get them, it does wind up bugging me I will simply fix it with some acetone and a decal.

Given the general quality of the model otherwise, this easily fixable or ignorable problem seems trivial to me. YMMV & more please Panda!
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Incidentally I'm not sure what your issue is with the wing regs of the 134s Andrew, as when you criticise you tend to throw accusations around without actually providing any evidence. They look fine to me.

It is hard to find images of Aeroflot Tu-134s where you can clearly see the wingtops but looking at Airliners.net from what I can see the spacing of the CCCP is correct due to the position of the wing strake:

See here and here and here for evidence
Your 3 photos further prove my point!!

The registration prefix is 4 equally spaced characters, C C C P -

and not C... C C P -

Such an error is unforgivable, and we all know if AC or GJ would have printed it that way, the same bottomfeeder apologists would be all over social media criticizing it. The level of hypocrisy is absolutely mind-boggling!!

p.s. ignore my dots. This website doesn't allow spacing so the dots are there to illustrate the difference.
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There is clearly a quite large gap between the first C and the second in those photos as they aren't painting over the wing strake.
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I can send you better photos than those you posted which clearly show how it should look.
Sorry, your boyz screwed up; live with it!!
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I can send you better photos than those you posted which clearly show how it should look.
Sorry, your boyz screwed up; live with it!!
I'd like to see them. I'll have a search around in the library too.
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Search no further. Col Klink is correct. Spacing is way off.
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C'mon Andrew, stop being a nitpicker, you're ruining it for the rest of us.
But seriously, these Tu134's look very nice, I'd definitely buy them, if I didn't have one already! Unfortunately I have to make do with just 1, as if I bought them all, my collection would be way out of hand, (it is already out of hand).
And I still bought your fantasy rego Air Canada 727, why? Because as Robert says, I buy what I like, and like what I buy!
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There is clearly a quite large gap between the first C and the second in those photos as they aren't painting over the wing strake.
You're looking at the photos you posted?
There is no such larger gap. Wonder where you see it?
Listen to Andrew this time. They screwed it.
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You're looking at the photos you posted?
There is no such larger gap. Wonder where you see it?
Listen to Andrew this time. They screwed it.
I was looking at the gap between the two Cs rather than the CCP part. So it does indeed look like they haven't left a big enough gap between the CCP bits. Happy to admit I'm wrong in this case.

Regardless it is pretty minor - I'd knock a point off in a detailed review and I bet the model would still score in the high 20s with no problem. However I haven't got a copy so I can't review it.
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How come the numbers on the other wing didn't need spacing?
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Too bad the wing registration printing is so kokked up!!

I guess when the bottomfeeders have nobody else's work to copy, the mistakes are more numerous!!
At least they only failed in ONE thing, unlike that other brand I know which can’t do a livery with the correct colors and details…
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I like your way of thinking John!!! Have a great weekend buddy!!


p.s. I like the NoGood apologists above, who instead of trying to defend the error, just divert their nonsensical comments elsewhere, or just choose to ignore the errors. Imagine if GJ or AC would have made the same errors!! The sky would be falling down!! What a bunch of hypocrites!!
Gotta laugh buddy!

Thanks and you have a great weekend as well!

Yeah, Ole Pandafish screwed up the CCCP printing on the wing!
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At least they only failed in ONE thing, unlike that other brand I know which can’t do a livery with the correct colors and details…
This isn't about anything else but the screwup on the Ty-134 model. If you have a problem with other brands, start a new thread, wanker!!
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If the spacing of the CCCP letters on 65769 is the same as on 65894, then yes, the lettering-spacing is incorrect. Wing lettering and numbers should be correctly printed as they appear(ed) on the aircraft.
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This isn't about anything else but the screwup on the Ty-134 model. If you have a problem with other brands, start a new thread, wanker!!
I acknowledge that a minor error is present but do you remember when the Air Canada 727 AC released had a misprinted registration, and then asked about it instead of owning up you were coping by saying the "registrations are tiny anyway", and flinging insults at others? Why do you waste $ printing registrations if they're too small anyway? Furthermore, with this in mind, why do you care about the registration wing print?
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I was looking at the gap between the two Cs rather than the CCP part. So it does indeed look like they haven't left a big enough gap between the CCP bits. Happy to admit I'm wrong in this case.
There shoudn't be any gap at all between the first and second 'C', as actually the first C runs right through the wing strake and doesn't avoid it. See here.
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Ah yes, another round of bickering. Getting back on track, the 134s look really nice and would love to have them if I were a Russian/Soviet-era airplane collector.
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I acknowledge that a minor error is present but do you remember when the Air Canada 727 AC released had a misprinted registration, and then asked about it instead of owning up you were coping by saying the "registrations are tiny anyway", and flinging insults at others? Why do you waste $ printing registrations if they're too small anyway? Furthermore, with this in mind, why do you care about the registration wing print?
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I acknowledge that a minor error is present but do you remember when the Air Canada 727 AC released had a misprinted registration, and then asked about it instead of owning up you were coping by saying the "registrations are tiny anyway", and flinging insults at others? Why do you waste $ printing registrations if they're too small anyway? Furthermore, with this in mind, why do you care about the registration wing print?
Because the wing registrations on Soviet era aircraft are very prominent, and can make or break a model of it. You are comparing this to something so tiny that you need a magnifying glass to see it. Again, this thread isn't about OTHER models, it's about THIS model. I know you can not defend the indefensible, so you are going off on tangents just to divert attention away from the subject at hand. You're no better than O'Biden!!
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Because the wing registrations on Soviet era aircraft are very prominent, and can make or break a model of it. You are comparing this to something so tiny that you need a magnifying glass to see it. Again, this thread isn't about OTHER models, it's about THIS model. I know you can not defend the indefensible, so you are going off on tangents just to divert attention away from the subject at hand. You're no better than O'Biden!!
I see many incoherence with this statement Mr. Klein. You say antenna holes are too big and inaccurate but now you need a magnifying glass to see them? In addition, I love how you think a reg can ruin a model (just for the fact that it was made by panda) but you can live with a model having a very wrong color palette and errors in the livery…
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Thank you for the photo clarifying the issue Adrian. As I don't see anyone else doing a better (or any) Ty-134 in 1:400, I will either live with it when mine arrive or fix it with decals if I can be bothered. Hopefully Panda will learn from this mistake for any subsequent Soviet Aeroflot machines.
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C CCP looks horrible because it is so large. CCCP translated in English to the Soviet Union, so C CCP depicts the break up of the Soviet Union. So at least there's some reason for comfort in this error!!!
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I see many incoherence with this statement Mr. Klein. You say antenna holes are too big and inaccurate but now you need a magnifying glass to see them? In addition, I love how you think a reg can ruin a model (just for the fact that it was made by panda) but you can live with a model having a very wrong color palette and errors in the livery…
Speaking of incoherence, WTF are you babbling about??
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Speaking of incoherence, WTF are you babbling about??
He’s obviously talking about you pointing with your index finger at Panda due to the falsely printed registration on the wing while several of your own models do not only sport comparable shortcomings but far worse inaccuracies, Andrew.

Smart Tu-134, by the way. The gap between the first and the second ‘C’ hurts a bit but the model itself looks very nice.
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He’s obviously talking about you pointing with your index finger at Panda due to the falsely printed registration on the wing while several of your own models do not only sport comparable shortcomings but far worse inaccuracies, Andrew.

Smart Tu-134, by the way. The gap between the first and the second ‘C’ hurts a bit but the model itself looks very nice.
I beg to differ.
I have their 1st Ty-134 release, and it's in my "back to Chine" pile to my factory, to fix all it's shortcomings!
The far worse inaccuracies you or the babbler are referring to are laughable. The alleged error on the Air Canada 727 is so minute it's not worth mentioning. The fleet number atop the tail is correct, and if C-GYMN is C-GYNM, it's not even visible without a magnifying glass. I'm a collector too, with over 6,000 models in my collection, none of which went under a magnifying glass or microscope before being displayed on the shelf. The error on the Ty-134 stands out prominently, and therefore, is an undesirable model. There is absolutely no comparison between the two, and to say otherwise is not being fair, and the epitome of hypocrisy. Those who complain about my calling out their massive error have an agenda, obviously, and are so brainwashed by bias it's become laughable.
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I beg to differ.
I have their 1st Ty-134 release, and it's in my "back to Chine" pile to my factory, to fix all it's shortcomings!
The far worse inaccuracies you or the babbler are referring to are laughable. The alleged error on the Air Canada 727 is so minute it's not worth mentioning. The fleet number atop the tail is correct, and if C-GYMN is C-GYNM, it's not even visible without a magnifying glass. I'm a collector too, with over 6,000 models in my collection, none of which went under a magnifying glass or microscope before being displayed on the shelf. The error on the Ty-134 stands out prominently, and therefore, is an undesirable model. There is absolutely no comparison between the two, and to say otherwise is not being fair, and the epitome of hypocrisy. Those who complain about my calling out their massive error have an agenda, obviously, and are so brainwashed by bias it's become laughable.
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I can see the registration quite clearly without a magnifying glass; your vision might be giving. My post wasn't about changing the subject, I was saying it's unfair for you to come into manufacturer threads and judge stuff like this so harshly when you're also the type to defend to the death it if it happens to your brand. Is it hard to be fair?

I respect that you have a back to chine pile.
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I can see the registration quite clearly without a magnifying glass; your vision might be giving. My post wasn't about changing the subject, I was saying it's unfair for you to come into manufacturer threads and judge stuff like this so harshly when you're also the type to defend to the death it if it happens to your brand. Is it hard to be fair?

I respect that you have a back to chine pile.
Fine, let's just agree to disagree, and move on. I'm still a collector at heart, regardless of the fact that I make these treasures too!!

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Cool. So we're all agreed that it is a mistake by Panda and certainly worth pointing out. Good.

Even so, the Panda Tu-134 is excellent and this error won't stop me personally acquiring one of them.

Most models made have some form of issue with them (otherwise they'd all score 30/30 in my reviews and I wouldn't bother writing them). As a collector I prefer to understand the failings of a model and unless they are especially grievous it often doesn't stop me collecting it. There have been very very few models I have sold after review due to errors.

My original intention with this thread was simply to advise that these models are incoming soon and not to critique them, although I almost always welcome discussion of the models good and bad points.
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I beg to differ.
I have their 1st Ty-134 release, and it's in my "back to Chine" pile to my factory, to fix all it's shortcomings!
The far worse inaccuracies you or the babbler are referring to are laughable. The alleged error on the Air Canada 727 is so minute it's not worth mentioning. The fleet number atop the tail is correct, and if C-GYMN is C-GYNM, it's not even visible without a magnifying glass. I'm a collector too, with over 6,000 models in my collection, none of which went under a magnifying glass or microscope before being displayed on the shelf. The error on the Ty-134 stands out prominently, and therefore, is an undesirable model. There is absolutely no comparison between the two, and to say otherwise is not being fair, and the epitome of hypocrisy. Those who complain about my calling out their massive error have an agenda, obviously, and are so brainwashed by bias it's become laughable.
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There's also N400N, and the upside down 727 engine, and the weird concavity that was polished into some of your 757s during whatever process that also removed the wing roots?

Everyone makes mistakes. Like Panda and their overwing escape exits having two exit rows on their 737-700s even though there's only one door. Or Gemini with their CRJs. Or AV400 with their ****astic boxes. Or NG with their Iran Air color.

Just saying, if you're going to sling mud, you'll receive some too.

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C'mon Andrew, stop being a nitpicker, you're ruining it for the rest of us.
But seriously, these Tu134's look very nice, I'd definitely buy them, if I didn't have one already! Unfortunately I have to make do with just 1, as if I bought them all, my collection would be way out of hand, (it is already out of hand).
And I still bought your fantasy rego Air Canada 727, why? Because as Robert says, I buy what I like, and like what I buy!
As long as the livery isn't a fantasy.
No kidding, year 22 of this behavior, hoping for the best in the future.
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Panda models make great aircraft and moulds, I only have one but it’s pretty good. Would you recommend getting a Tu-134?
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Everyone makes mistakes. Like Panda and their overwing escape exits having two exit rows on their 737-700s even though there's only one door.
If you are referring to the Southwest ones, the ones with heart livery, including the special liveries, they do actually have 2 rows painted on the wings, even though there is only one exit, Gemini prints them the same way.

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