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Old 06-20-2021, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This much anticipated release from Gemini came a few days ago.
Really happy about this one, seeing it in person definitely upped a bit of a down week.
Enjoy the pics!
I would like to see GJ use their 727 mould more, and would like to see releases of USA jet, RIO cargo, cargojet just to name a few.
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Old 06-20-2021, 04:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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727 is a really cool plane. Nice release, GJ!
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I much prefer it to the AC 727, so I hope it is used more too
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What is going on with the cockpit windows? They look rather low on the starboard side. I hadn't seen that in the photos of this model before?
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What is going on with the cockpit windows? They look rather low on the starboard side. I hadn't seen that in the photos of this model before?
Hmmm, it appears you are correct upon closer inspection.
The cockpit windows appear to be printed in a a bit of a slanted manner, anyone have photos of theirs from the front?
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Hmmm, it appears you are correct upon closer inspection.
The cockpit windows appear to be printed in a a bit of a slanted manner, anyone have photos of theirs from the front?
Yep, those are off just a bit
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the tires don't look the best too, not the best looking model from a front-on view.
Looks 8/10 from the side though, which is the view I like.
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Enjoy it from afar and all will be good despite its flaws (crocked cockpit printing and God awful nose gear)!

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Enjoy it from afar and all will be good despite its flaws (crocked cockpit printing and God awful nose gear)!

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Yes!! Enjoy it from afar...(and avoid certain angles... )
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Looks like the work of a factory worker frantically trying to meet production goals. Sorry to see that you receive this kind of quality. Like jcahea said, enjoy it from afar, as that's what we should settle for with the kind of money we pay these days. Not sure if you'll have any luck with attempting to exchange yours for another copy.

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And NO macro photography....
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Looks like I got a dud example based off this video? (In regards to the tires).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jj1QtcH7tU
Do the cockpit windows look like they're correctly printed?
Not sure it's worth contacting the retailer for an exchange, as they don't seem to have any left.
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I was actually wanting to get this model and from Brad's photo's in the beginning, the model looked awesome! Till it got to the cockpit windows. So i might think carefully now about buying this! Trust Gemini to have f***d this one up!!!
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would like the DB Cooper 727 and Winglets Trump 727
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This is why I switched to 200 scale. Their larger scale 727 moulds are so much better than the 400's. Same story with several other airframes as well.
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would like the DB Cooper 727 and Winglets Trump 727
The DB Cooper 727 was made recently by Aeroclassics
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The DB Cooper 727 was made recently by Aeroclassics
How about in Piedmont colors N838N? That's the DB Cooper plane too..we need a Piedmont 727 in the last scheme as well.
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I was actually wanting to get this model and from Brad's photo's in the beginning, the model looked awesome! Till it got to the cockpit windows. So i might think carefully now about buying this! Trust Gemini to have f***d this one up!!!
good choice not to buy. I too never purchase 400 scale models based on zoomed in close ups that totally over exaggerate something that would not normally be seen.. (this answer does not excuse the CRj 900 gear and stabilizers!)
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This is why I switched to 200 scale. Their larger scale 727 moulds are so much better than the 400's. Same story with several other airframes as well.
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They made the airframe DB Cooper was on, but not in the livery it wore at that time.


As we're talking 727s. When will there be a good 2021 standards mould in 1/400? So many liveries I'd want.
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I was actually wanting to get this model and from Brad's photo's in the beginning, the model looked awesome! Till it got to the cockpit windows. So i might think carefully now about buying this! Trust Gemini to have f***d this one up!!! [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]
good choice not to buy. I too never purchase 400 scale models based on zoomed in close ups that totally over exaggerate something that would not normally be seen.. (this answer does not excuse the CRj 900 gear and stabilizers!)
I agree. Detail is very important and I don’t think we should let QC issues slide. The windows are bad but probably not bad enough to not get a model that may never be made again 1:400. With that said, those windows do have poor placement
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They made the airframe DB Cooper was on, but not in the livery it wore at that time.


As we're talking 727s. When will there be a good 2021 standards mould in 1/400? So many liveries I'd want.
Yep, would love to see NG come out with a 727WL/super27 mould as well as all the others.
Who would love to see this baby in 1/400?
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Yep, would love to see NG come out with a 727WL/super27 mould as well as all the others.
Who would love to see this baby in 1/400?
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Making a 727 winglet mould would be a great way to lose money unless you were going to do lots more with other 727s.
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This is why I switched to 200 scale. Their larger scale 727 moulds are so much better than the 400's. Same story with several other airframes as well.
The accuracy of the 200 scale compared to 400 is always clearly evident. The problem with 200 scale is you need a place that is equivalent to a warehouse to be able to display them!
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Confucius once say, you buy toy size you get toy look!
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He who buy small model in 2021 and spends 2021 prices expect to see 2021 accuracy!!
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The accuracy of the 200 scale compared to 400 is always clearly evident. The problem with 200 scale is you need a place that is equivalent to a warehouse to be able to display them!
However, with 200 scale, I am a lot more selective about what I buy partially due to the issue you bring up. With 400 scale, I tended to purchase first, then ask questions later (why did I buy this? Should I get rid of this? Why didn't I wait for photos before buying? etc.).

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I like to remind people that it may be double the scale, but that means they take up 8x the space, since everything's doubled in 3 dimensions.
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Making a 727 winglet mould would be a great way to lose money unless you were going to do lots more with other 727s.
There are more potential liveries for the 727-200WL, than there are for the Tu204, and that isn't even factoring in if NG made a 722, than all they would need was the different wing tooling, and if they made a 'super 27', the JT8D-200 tooling.
I happen to have the only 1/400 727W/L ever made.
Here's some liveries that would be top sellers...
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https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9879479
https://www.airteamimages.com/boeing...864_large.html
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9180035
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There are more potential liveries for the 727-200WL, than there are for the Tu204, and that isn't even factoring in if NG made a 722, than all they would need was the different wing tooling, and if they made a 'super 27', the JT8D-200 tooling.
I happen to have the only 1/400 727W/L ever made.
Here's some liveries that would be top sellers...
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/165210
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/d7...fe34e26ddd.jpg
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8437439
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7008079
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10107453
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7867067
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9879479
https://www.airteamimages.com/boeing...864_large.html
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9180035
I also happen to have the only 1/400 727 winglet ever made.


But the Tu-204 has way more appeal to the NG customer base since its a unique type that no one else has ever made, and it represents airlines that are of interest in Asia.
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I like to remind people that it may be double the scale, but that means they take up 8x the space, since everything's doubled in 3 dimensions.
That's what she said Denny!
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I also happen to have the only 1/400 727 winglet ever made.
...didn't Dragon Wings make the Pan Am 727 Billboard regular release with winglets!?...well I owned one when collecting 1:400!
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...didn't Dragon Wings make the Pan Am 727 Billboard regular release with winglets!?...well I owned one when collecting 1:400!
Yes, that is the only known 727 winglet release in 1:400.
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Cockpit looks fine to me...Any comment from Tris10&11? especially after his wise a** comment earlier?? probably not...sure glad he passed on this one..
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Here's a photo of the real aircraft, a few days after she left OSC wearing her updated titles, do you prefer the updated titles, or the older ones?
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Cockpit looks fine to me...Any comment from Tris10&11? especially after his wise a** comment earlier?? probably not...sure glad he passed on this one..
Is it really a wise *** comment to avoid buying an expensive model that may have comically obvious flaws? Not everyone likes to display a model on a shelf from one angle along with 500 others where such lapses in quality might be missed. That is one valid way of collecting but not the only one.

We don't know the actual rate of defects for this production run but I'd certainly think twice about buying a model with a chance of having such a comically inaccurate error.
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Is it really a wise *** comment to avoid buying an expensive model that may have comically obvious flaws? Not everyone likes to display a model on a shelf from one angle along with 500 others where such lapses in quality might be missed. That is one valid way of collecting but not the only one.

We don't know the actual rate of defects for this production run but I'd certainly think twice about buying a model with a chance of having such a comically inaccurate error.
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Is it really a wise *** comment to avoid buying an expensive model that may have comically obvious flaws? Not everyone likes to display a model on a shelf from one angle along with 500 others where such lapses in quality might be missed. That is one valid way of collecting but not the only one.

We don't know the actual rate of defects for this production run but I'd certainly think twice about buying a model with a chance of having such a comically inaccurate error.
I would still rather buy the GJ 727s than AC 727s. At least the landing gear on GJ samples doesn't immediately disintegrate, less noticeable seam, aerials, and they don't get color errors or fantasy registration printings sold off as real historic models
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Cockpit looks fine to me...Any comment from Tris10&11? especially after his wise a** comment earlier?? probably not...sure glad he passed on this one..

Pictures are from 3 different models I bought ! and for me they look correct .. definitely a great release !
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Pictures are from 3 different models I bought ! and for me they look correct .. definitely a great release !
yes the fake news critics remain silent..thank you for the update.
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yes the fake news critics remain silent..thank you for the update.
Observable defects are not fake news. I bought this model. Once I reattached the separated nose gear and the loose ariels, the model certainly is respectable.
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Cockpit looks fine to me...Any comment from Tris10&11? especially after his wise a** comment earlier?? probably not...sure glad he passed on this one..
Wise ***?? The only wise *** is you!!! I've noticed you're always the first with your 'wise *** comments',when its one of us indicating a mess up from Gemini, yet i hear f*** all when I make suggestions ( to you and Gemini) and also when i give you and Gemini great compliments!!! Put your money where your mouth is...wise a**!!!
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OH YEAH, IT'S ON NOW!!! JCAHEA, pass me some of that popcorn! Can't wait to see the intellectual back and forth about the definition of a wise ***! Everyone sit back and watch carefully, this is a situation we call provocation and the inevitable reaction, we're gonna get ejumacated here! All over a small piece of zinc in the shape an airplane.
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I'm glad I got free refills on this visit...here ya go C141*Lifter! When I go to get it back don't pull the popcorn box trick on me!

AWE SNAP...damn Sam...who needs WWE Smackdown Friday night on FOX when we got this!

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Man I gotta laugh regarding the seriousness at which some take regarding their diecast! It's like someone told a collector their baby was ugly!

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Move over to 1:200 and get the Gemini200 release and be done with the 1:400 toys!
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I'm glad I got free refills on this visit...here ya go C141*Lifter! When I go to get it back don't pull the popcorn box trick on me!

AWE SNAP...damn Sam...who needs WWE Smackdown Friday night on FOX when we got this!

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Man I gotta laugh regarding the seriousness at which some take regarding their diecast! It's like someone told a collector their baby was ugly!

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I start taking it seriously when I get called a wise ***!! I've contributed to this forum enough and interact well with everybody ( well there are exceptions!) but certain people need to realise that I've given loads of good compliments and positive feedback on models. I also qualify to give my opinion considering I've been with this hobby for a very long time now and have supported these very same companies that dish out sh***y comments like this!.I want to move on now! I don't come on here for this!
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I hear ya...just trying to bring some levity! I understand your upset! Deep breath and happy collecting!
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Trust Gemini to have f***d this one up!!!
Only quoted what a true wise*** would say. Your not so innocent....
Ill be the first to admit there are issues with certain models which are well played out here and the topics are never deleted, but there is nothing wrong with this model...

Like I said, dont buy it....
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I start taking it seriously when I get called a wise ***!! I've contributed to this forum enough and interact well with everybody ( well there are exceptions!) but certain people need to realise that I've given loads of good compliments and positive feedback on models. I also qualify to give my opinion considering I've been with this hobby for a very long time now and have supported these very same companies that dish out sh***y comments like this!.I want to move on now! I don't come on here for this!
Most would agree with you. You could have made the same comments about a poorly made Panda model and most likely nobody would care. Maybe one guy would chime in with you and predictably use the word bottomfeeder. But we are talking about a Gemini Jets model here, and along with AeroClassics, they are the most respected diecast model makers in human history. I've been collecting long enough to know that revealing any flaws of these majestic brands is like pouring lime juice and cayenne pepper on an open wound for some people.

Unlucky for the OP to receive the model that he did. I'm sure 99% of the production run was fine.

Not sure why the mod has to even bring up the subject of topic deletions. Photos of collectors' models are great feedback (not that GJ participates on this forum or anything silly like that). I appreciate that threads are generally not deleted on this forum, unlike at that other forum.

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