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Old 05-13-2021, 08:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Excuse me if this is discussed before, but I have a few questions about paint fading/color changes on models.

Some of my models are outside of cabinets and more exposed to natural light. I try to avoid direct sunlight because it might affect the paint/color on the models.

What are your experiences with this? Do you have models that are affected? For example white becoming more yellow(ish). Some other questions that I have.

1) Does it happen fast, or only with direct sunlight/older models?
2) Are certain colors more prone to fading/changing color?
3) Is there a difference in the paint applied by manufacturers that makes certain brands more vulnerable?

Would love to have more clarity on this!

Thanks!
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never had the colours fade on any of my models and they've been in all kind of conditions. I've even touched them with my bare hands without gloves.

If you ask me though, discolouration is more realistic. For example, most Delta planes (especially the CRJ's) aren't white, but are clearly sun baked to look more like a beige colour than white. But I know most collectors want factory fresh
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I've never had the colours fade on any of my models and they've been in all kind of conditions. I've even touched them with my bare hands without gloves.

If you ask me though, discolouration is more realistic. For example, most Delta planes (especially the CRJ's) aren't white, but are clearly sun baked to look more like a beige colour than white. But I know most collectors want factory fresh
Actually, the white paint that Delta uses (and has used for previous liveries) is not actually a pure white but an off-white color with a yellowish tint to it.
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I've even touched them with my bare hands without gloves
Is there a good reason to not touch models with bare hands?
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Is there a good reason to not touch models with bare hands?
Some people feel it helps maintain the finish, particularly on polished metal examples like old American Airlines livery so those don't tarnish. But personally I found I was much more likely to drop models when using gloves, or get them caught on an antenna. So I'd say use gloves at your own risk.
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I don't think the bare hands thing has anything to do with it as the paint is clear coated. You can have a film applied (or you can do it if you're handy) to the windows in the room where you display your planes to reduce UV! It doesn't have to be direct sunlight to cause fading. So even though the sun may not be beating on them, the fact that natural light is present in the room there is some UV that hits them!

Also certain light bulbs give off more UV that will accelerate paint fading.

I remember a hobby shop had models and boxes displayed in the store front window and the boxes and model colors where washed out pretty bad!

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I actually use latex surgical gloves when handling my models. That way I won't leave smudges or oily residue from my fingers on the models.
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Actually, the white paint that Delta uses (and has used for previous liveries) is not actually a pure white but an off-white color with a yellowish tint to it.
Wow, are there actually idiots in this hobby who don't realize that Delta white isn't "white"? It's been over a decade now; if there are people who haven't caught on by now, they deserve to be taken out to pasture.
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...personally I found I was much more likely to drop models when using gloves, or get them caught on an antenna...
I always use surgical gloves made of latex or nitrile. With these gloves, it is unlikely that your aircraft model would slip out of your hands. The rubbery material of the gloves has an anti-slip effect. I would certainly never use for example those white textile fabric museum gloves. With these, you indeed risk having accidents as dennypane mentions.
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I use cotton gloves- I find the latex ones are powdery, and the collection sits in the darkest and driest room of the house. That way you avoid UV, mould, oils, etc.
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