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Old 04-18-2021, 02:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

This has possibly been covered already, but can anyone confirm if Gemini Jets are or will use the awesome JC Wings 1/400 mould for the 777-9?

I know JC Wings done two, the red one (Not accurate) and the blue one (Accurate). I have the blue one and it is indeed most awesome, from what I can see in pics of the Gemini Emirates 779's, it does seem that the mould is identical to JC's (This is good)

I'm a little troubled with Gemini's 777's due to the wing assembly and I can't understand why they still use that version, but if they are using the JC 779 I may indeed be very interested in getting some 779's from Gemini Jets in future.

All going well I could possibly get 4 because my primary criteria is anything I've seen and photographed in real life and in non Covid times we usually have 3 carriers who are regulars to Auckland who currently use 77W's Emirates, Singapore, Qatar and Cathy Pac.

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Gemini uses all JC moulds, as simple as that. Except for some releases which they use the old bad moulds for some weird reason no one understands.
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I'm a little troubled with Gemini's 777's due to the wing assembly and I can't understand why they still use that version
Welcome to the club. But it's not only the wing assembly. Engines and gear are also outdated. Gemini acts like a stubborn donkey here imo. They just don't want to use the new mould on a regular basis. The same applies to the 787 mould...
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I don’t like how Gemini doesn’t use the newer JC molds for their 777 and 787-8 and -9 releases either. If they did their releases would definitely be up for consideration for me. I think for the 787-10 they have the newer JC mold (correct me if I’m wrong).
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They both do have the same problem - the cabin windows are too small. It is said, that the windows on the actual aircraft are even bigger than those of the 787. But not on the GJ/JC model - they even aren't the same size as those of the 787 mould.
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They both do have the same problem - the cabin windows are too small. It is said, that the windows on the actual aircraft are even bigger than those of the 787. But not on the GJ/JC model - they even aren't the same size as those of the 787 mould.
Hmm... Take a look at this, it would be slightly smaller than 787! Not that it would make much of a difference at 400 scale.
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I think for the 787-10 they have the newer JC mold (correct me if I’m wrong).
That's right. The 787-10 is the newer JC mould and decent.
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Hmm... Take a look at this, it would be slightly smaller than 787! Not that it would make much of a difference at 400 scale.
It does make a huge difference to European Collector even though he appears to be wrong.
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Sorry for digressing a bit... I can't believe that the windows on an A350 are that much smaller than those on the B787. Is that just because of the perspective of the photo? Does anyone know the exact dimensions of both windows?
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Sorry for digressing a bit... I can't believe that the windows on an A350 are that much smaller than those on the B787. Is that just because of the perspective of the photo? Does anyone know the exact dimensions of both windows?
Actually, the 787 is just slightly taller but very slightly narrower than the A350’s, here an accurate image for compariosn


The image shown in the other post is in reality Boeing’s propaganda to show off the 787, and the perspective doesn’t help. I want to believe they didn’t make Airbus’ windows smaller... I’ve been on both A350 and 787 and as a passenger can’t really tell Iñigo difference (I did preferred the A350 in overall experience tho haha).
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Has a sample been made in 1/400 yet?
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Redrado, thanks for the clear presentation. My question is answered at first sight.
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Actually, the 787 is just slightly taller but very slightly narrower than the A350’s, here an accurate image for compariosn


The image shown in the other post is in reality Boeing’s propaganda to show off the 787, and the perspective doesn’t help. I want to believe they didn’t make Airbus’ windows smaller... I’ve been on both A350 and 787 and as a passenger can’t really tell Iñigo difference (I did preferred the A350 in overall experience tho haha).
Don't know where you've got this from, but this image is far away from depicting an A350's window shape. So I would be highly careful with such "accurate" comparisons. An 350's window isn't that big.
Refer to the image farther above in this thread. Even though that's wide-angle photography to Boeing's favour.
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Don't know where you've got this from, but this image is far away from depicting an A350's window shape. So I would be highly careful with such "accurate" comparisons. An 350's window isn't that big.
Refer to the image farther above in this thread. Even though that's wide-angle photography to Boeing's favour.
I think the image I posted shows the difference in width and height only, without the actual shape of the window, as we can only really have access to those two measures I think, so I posted it just to show the actual differences besides the shape because you’re right, the A350’s window shape is more oval, narrower towards the top and bottom. And anyway, it’s not something very remarkable in this scale.
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Hmm... Take a look at this, it would be slightly smaller than 787! Not that it would make much of a difference at 400 scale.
And adjusting the perspectives a bit... Not saying this version of the image is an absolute comparison of the windows either - the original picture was not well taken in regard to perspective, and any modification of it will not give a true comparison. Doug
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Has a sample been made in 1/400 yet?
Gemini Jets have one in 400 scale wearing Emirates livery, they are actuially for sale on the Emirates shop as well.

JC done 2, one inaccurate version in red, this one has a few areas which are different to the real jet and the one I have, also from JC in blue with the issues of the red one sorted.

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Gemini uses all JC moulds, as simple as that. Except for some releases which they use the old bad moulds for some weird reason no one understands.

I've tried to find an Emirates 77W in the JC mould or the Gemini version of it and cannot, do you know which 77W's Gemini has done using the JC mould?
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I've tried to find an Emirates 77W in the JC mould or the Gemini version of it and cannot, do you know which 77W's Gemini has done using the JC mould?
There is only one 779 mould in 1/400 at the moment, and it is the JC/GJ one. Any 1/400 779 that you can find right now will be on that mould. Unfortunately, GJ has not used the new 77W mould on Emirates models - not that I'm aware of at least!
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