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For those new to the forum last few years, this is how the "Wild West of Model Collecting" got the title for 400 scale section. I feel like I'm in a time warp from 2000!! every day was like this
What was the 'shortest time posting before banned record' back then, do you recall? We may have a new contender!
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For those new to the forum last few years, this is how the "Wild West of Model Collecting" got the title for 400 scale section. I feel like I'm in a time warp from 2000!! every day was like this
Appreciate the clarification; always wondered that at the back of my mind, now I know
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So much trolling.
The NG 738 is the best 738 mould available.
The SP may have a few issues (not the least of which was the recall), but it still puts the Herpa and Gemini to shame.
Aeroclassics makes many nice things too, but they also make mistakes just like NG. See the upside down 727 engine that was posted a while back. Or the lack of glue on the A321 wings.
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weren't you the one whining about "taking all the fun out of this hobby" with this extremely detailed criticism thing, it seems kind of ironic.
I never whine, I just merely state facts. There is a huge difference between some of the nitpicking which sucks the fun out of the hobby, and serious collectors pointing out obvious flaws in some of the garbage which is pushed out of China.
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Originally Posted by vellnueve
So much trolling.
The NG 738 is the best 738 mould available.
The SP may have a few issues (not the least of which was the recall), but it still puts the Herpa and Gemini to shame.
Aeroclassics makes many nice things too, but they also make mistakes just like NG. See the upside down 727 engine that was posted a while back. Or the lack of glue on the A321 wings.
Is that the best you've got? A lame attempt trying to compare apples and oranges; the alleged upsidedown 727 engine was on ONE of two hundred plus models. No comparison here! As for glue which fails, that is industry wide, and effects everyone! Not a mistake, but a fact of physics!
Carry on!
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Woe is me! There's the slightest 1mm blemish on my polished AA!! Straight to the scrappers! I'm sure the real ones always gleamed like chrome!
I've got straight-winged Gemini A380s, bubbly Magic Models 747s, and round-nosed Airbuses from Dragon. Yet I still hang on to those models as they were a product of their time and they're what I wanted (and still want) to collect. What's a collection without showcasing the evolution of diecast 1:400 models?
But seriously, let's focus our rants on the real problems which everyone faces from time to time... like mould inaccuracies, colour scheme/artwork mixups, and of course, quality control issues...
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Oh my, what have i gotten myself into...
Grown men arguing over toys... Sorry guys. I love Airplanes and Airplane models but this embarassing.
Let me add though: Nobody in their right mind could REALLY argue about the quality and effort of NGs work. I mean how long have they been arounf now?
I´m fourty years of age. Over the past 30 years i always wanted to collect models. I just never started because whenever i came across diecast planes on the internet, I was disapointed that a 737 never looked like a 737. Or an a320 never looking like an a320. NG was the reason that i finally picked this hobby. And I was TOTALLY UNBIASED, not knowing about Gemini, Phoenix, AC or even who NG was at that time.
I saw their 738´s and their 330s and was like: Finally!
I´ve been interested in planes since i was a little kid. And their shapes and sizes are imprinted in my brain.
I don´t see any problem on NG´s Models that cannot easily be found with any other manufacturer to the same or even a bigger extent.
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Hey Doug
I guess Gemini Jets being the most successful model airplane company in the world is a mistake
Dan
Well perhaps they made themselves a name when they did good models for the time, when I started collecting they actually had pretty good stuff but years passed and things change... and if you’re going to defend the current state of GJ models with something achieved from the past... try better next time, Dan.
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Originally Posted by Dash80
Oh my, what have i gotten myself into...
Grown men arguing over toys... Sorry guys. I love Airplanes and Airplane models but this embarassing.
Let me add though: Nobody in their right mind could REALLY argue about the quality and effort of NGs work. I mean how long have they been arounf now?
I´m fourty years of age. Over the past 30 years i always wanted to collect models. I just never started because whenever i came across diecast planes on the internet, I was disapointed that a 737 never looked like a 737. Or an a320 never looking like an a320. NG was the reason that i finally picked this hobby. And I was TOTALLY UNBIASED, not knowing about Gemini, Phoenix, AC or even who NG was at that time.
I saw their 738´s and their 330s and was like: Finally!
I´ve been interested in planes since i was a little kid. And their shapes and sizes are imprinted in my brain.
I don´t see any problem on NG´s Models that cannot easily be found with any other manufacturer to the same or even a bigger extent.
I didn't like the look of anyone's 777-300ER back then... so I got myself a Pacmin!
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I don´t see any problem on NG´s Models that cannot easily be found with any other manufacturer to the same or even a bigger extent.
All you say is true, I just couldn’t resist that you didn’t mention Panda and JC. Regardless of what Andrew Klein says, Panda produces amazing models and can very easily be paired up with NG (well, boxes are quite bland), they’re just harder to find although recently they are appearing in big stores. Also JC produces great widebodies (some of their narrowbodies are debatable...), which are very easy to find. So, give them a try if there’s something you like from those two.
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All you say is true, I just couldn’t resist that you didn’t mention Panda and JC. Regardless of what Andrew Klein says, Panda produces amazing models and can very easily be paired up with NG (well, boxes are quite bland), they’re just harder to find although recently they are appearing in big stores. Also JC produces great widebodies (some of their narrowbodies are debatable...), which are very easy to find. So, give them a try if there’s something you like from those two.
You just had to open that can too, eh? This thread is surely turning into quite the xxxxshow! Going to go pop some popcorn.
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I agree with some of the critism here
The garuda titles are a bit too high. The garuda titles are too high, on the actual plane they are naturally a bit higher than a standard airline livery but they are too high in this example.
On the other hand I agree with Richard, this nitpicking is getting ridiculous now, your arguing over a few cm on the real plane when the model itself is only about 15 cm in length, its a 1/400 model, its never going to be 100% accurate. If all you do is critise a companies efforts to bring good quality models and offer no praise and only criticism, you quickly see a drop in customer interaction.
NG are never gonna get everything right. Case in point, I have the Jet2 a321 released a few months ago and the engines on that are way too low for an a321 and should be higher. Is it perfect? No, am I going to keep it? Absolutely!
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I'm liking what I see so far. I have the Gulf Air as well as the French MRTT on order and I'm looking forward to them. The SP is also looking good imo and yes there might be a few niggly issues but hey they're a helluva lot better than any SP that's come out to date! GeminiMD11,I'd love to hear what you make of your SP's (I'm assuming you're associated with Geminijets?) and how they compare! This should be interesting!!
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Originally Posted by Redrado
All you say is true, I just couldn’t resist that you didn’t mention Panda and JC. Regardless of what Andrew Klein says, Panda produces amazing models and can very easily be paired up with NG (well, boxes are quite bland), they’re just harder to find although recently they are appearing in big stores. Also JC produces great widebodies (some of their narrowbodies are debatable...), which are very easy to find. So, give them a try if there’s something you like from those two.
Of course, those were just examples. Every competitor has their strong an weak points. And as with every other competition: if you take your (hard earned, but nonetheless) success for granted than chances are you become lazy.
As a consumer it shouldn´t be my responsibility to determine which model is based on a "pirated" mould and which ones are morally okay. Given all we know about production and overall labor condition in china I´m not sure if collecting this things is "ethical" in any way but i digress...
Just pick the models you enjoy (every company has good ones) but stop whining about misplaced cheatlines on a 3 to 5 inch model! I think threads like this show that the "establishment" is under pressure, which is good thing for us as collectors. I don´t care who i buy from, i just find good quality very attracting. And i can totally live with slightely misplaced cheatlines. Period.
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Originally Posted by crownvic
For those new to the forum last few years, this is how the "Wild West of Model Collecting" got the title for 400 scale section. I feel like I'm in a time warp from 2000!! every day was like this
This thread is turning into a gun fight/pistol duals.
Complete chaos.
All I need is a bag of popcorn!
If that is Dan Asher talking he makes a very important and valid point about how these things are made, and where. I met him once at the Gatwick Fair and was greeted with a very solid handshake and found him to be very much on the level. He also had great fashion sense and complimented the jacket I was wearing 😂
I’ve banged on about QC too and while it’s an important aspect we also have to be realistic, I think we’re pretty lucky to be getting what we’re getting to be honest. I know the prices have gone up so of course expectations will be raised as well. All the technology available today, micro-printing, 3D printing, laser scanning, etc. etc., so much is possible but this is mass production of little models, to factory workers they are toys. Got to give credit where credit’s due, NG have knocked out some pretty decent moulds and that has raised expectations, it raised mine too because their TriStar was simply awesome. So when NG drop the ball, it’s a really big deal because of the bar they lifted with the quality of the moulds and initial production. Now they have expanded so rapidly in a very short space of time, something will inevitably give. The frustrating part is consistency, and that is a very tough bugger to maintain. Look at the engines on the NG TriStar for example - the forward slant was corrected midway through production, so their previous releases are not consistent with newer releases. But they did listen and fix it, so that again raises expectations.
Remember this is China we’re talking about. I suspect that these homegrown companies within China have many significant advantages over the many foreign companies who manufacture over there and whom are registered overseas; this will create a degree of unfair competition and the homegrown manufacturers can probably get away with more. It’s the nature of the beast. Family/political connections to factories etc. etc. Then we occasionally see a bit of this dirty laundry spill out on DAC. As to how ethically these things are made - better that we not even go there. That issue will not be solved here.
There’s also way too much greed and instant gratification around these days. I am grateful for my NG’s, my Aeroclassics, my Gemini Jets, antenna or no. I take a step back and look at my modest 300-odd collection and think “this isn’t bad at all, as a kid I could only have dreamed of having models like these”.
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Alright, lets just take a side by side image comparison between the NG 747SP and the closest competitor, the JC version.
Now, considering that the closest competition has a gap wider than the Grand Canyon, I'd say the better buy is the NG rendition of this Pan Am 747SP. Stop nitpicking, if you're going to be such a prick about details that can't even be seen under a microscope I suggest you go start your own model company. Competition is always welcome.
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Be aware that the nastiness in this thread did not come from people making reasonable criticisms about a mould from an outstanding manufacturer (NG) whom we want to see do better.
It came from two people, who either work for or seem to have some affiliation/ relation to competitors, which competitors have a financial interest in stirring up trouble.
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What I find most interesting about all this is, I started a thread earlier in the year about whiners, complainers and nitpickers and got lambasted for it.
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What I find most interesting about all this is, I started a thread earlier in the year about whiners, complainers and nitpickers and got lambasted for it.
This ain't just some nitpicking though, people are out for blood...
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Originally Posted by BWI-ROCman
Be aware that the nastiness in this thread did not come from people making reasonable criticisms about a mould from an outstanding manufacturer (NG) whom we want to see do better.
It came from two people, who either work for or seem to have some affiliation/ relation to competitors, which competitors have a financial interest in stirring up trouble.
Jim
Thanks for bringing some sensibility back to the discussion, Jim. This is a forum and by definition it is designed to be a place of discussion. That discussion will quite frequently be driven by observations! These are observations that are easy to make with a trained eye in 1/400 and quality pictures like the ones presented. As you mentioned, the folks making those observations, myself included aren't interested in 'whining' about 1/400 scale imperfections, we simply enjoy sharing our opinion about what choices are being put before us as consumers. (I just as well as anyone recognize there are far more important things in life).
I don't think anyone who made a real actual observation about the NG models this month plan to throw a tantrum. That art form is being most well exercised by a general few who care not to discuss* said observations but use them as ammunition to twist and exaggerate this unfair perception that most collectors are spoiled and that they should just buy whatever is available to them without descrimination and shut up and be grateful for it. Welcome to the free market, consumers/collectors have a choice now and frankly shouldn't be shamed for making fair observations. People should be able to say what they want without ridicule IF they can back up their claim with evidence or fair comparison as we've seen well demonstrated on this thread already.
To me it's obvious that NG has some real influence here, and the attention this thread is getting is driven by how good NG really are month after month. Everyone wants to see the best show in town, even those operating competing shows are willing to buy a ticket, if you get my meaning. As for what this thread has become, maybe if all the NG deniers would actually put their money where their mouth is, we'd see a more sweeping improvements in 1/400 scale and there would be MORE QUALITY MODELS, and fewer excuses about the shortcomings of glue or old fashioned moulds presenting massive gaps in central mould components. Funny how the glue I frequently have to use on my models lasts and lasts....
Finally, I don't think anything said on these forums would scare NG away from participating with its customers. They communicate broadly on a variety of platforms and this forum compared to other avenues of social media is a smaller corner of their digital presence.
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Originally Posted by BWI-ROCman
Be aware that the nastiness in this thread did not come from people making reasonable criticisms about a mould from an outstanding manufacturer (NG) whom we want to see do better.
It came from two people, who either work for or seem to have some affiliation/ relation to competitors, which competitors have a financial interest in stirring up trouble.
Jim
That should clarify what's going on here for the new members.
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Go get a Life!
If you are closely tied to GJ, then thank you for confirming with your silence, deflections, and downright nastiness where GJ models stand in comparison to NG's. Any company doing fine would keep calm and diecast on!
If you aren't tied to GJ, wow, I'd say you should do what you just said. Who comes on here and throws a tantrum with absolutely no value-added info if they have no interest in NG's failure? These AA 737s look awesome and you know it.
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If that is Dan Asher talking he makes a very important and valid point about how these things are made, and where. I met him once at the Gatwick Fair and was greeted with a very solid handshake and found him to be very much on the level. He also had great fashion sense and complimented the jacket I was wearing 😂
I’ve banged on about QC too and while it’s an important aspect we also have to be realistic, I think we’re pretty lucky to be getting what we’re getting to be honest. I know the prices have gone up so of course expectations will be raised as well. All the technology available today, micro-printing, 3D printing, laser scanning, etc. etc., so much is possible but this is mass production of little models, to factory workers they are toys. Got to give credit where credit’s due, NG have knocked out some pretty decent moulds and that has raised expectations, it raised mine too because their TriStar was simply awesome. So when NG drop the ball, it’s a really big deal because of the bar they lifted with the quality of the moulds and initial production. Now they have expanded so rapidly in a very short space of time, something will inevitably give. The frustrating part is consistency, and that is a very tough bugger to maintain. Look at the engines on the NG TriStar for example - the forward slant was corrected midway through production, so their previous releases are not consistent with newer releases. But they did listen and fix it, so that again raises expectations.
Remember this is China we’re talking about. I suspect that these homegrown companies within China have many significant advantages over the many foreign companies who manufacture over there and whom are registered overseas; this will create a degree of unfair competition and the homegrown manufacturers can probably get away with more. It’s the nature of the beast. Family/political connections to factories etc. etc. Then we occasionally see a bit of this dirty laundry spill out on DAC. As to how ethically these things are made - better that we not even go there. That issue will not be solved here.
There’s also way too much greed and instant gratification around these days. I am grateful for my NG’s, my Aeroclassics, my Gemini Jets, antenna or no. I take a step back and look at my modest 300-odd collection and think “this isn’t bad at all, as a kid I could only have dreamed of having models like these”.
We’re not doing too badly here.
I agree with all of this to a point. All legitimate, all honest, nothing to argue here EXCEPT, when the companies that make the models, or the associates of those that run the companies, or the very collectors that buy the models post pictures on a discussion forum, that creates the space for discussing any and all elements of the models that are pictured, not certain ones. The details, the printing, the moulding, the price, hell, even how round and spinny the tires are. That's the point. People being defensive here are usually remorseful or jealous consumers/producers UNLESS they are defending their point/argument with any kind of details or evidence set apart from opinion.
If you are angry that people criticize, then don't post something. OR don't make something and expect people to pay for it, yet spare yourself from any criticism at all. The more people can discuss and enjoy any experience with or about these models the more we can bring the hobby life and improve it. Businesses that don't innovate constantly and are set in their ways don't tend to last. None of us wants any of these companies to fold. Sometimes that means winners and losers when the general consensus of the collectorate isn't happy with a model. So what. Try again, make it better. Take responsibility for not executing something well, or having a bad idea and use that to improve. If you can make a good product, people will buy it. I never thought I'd see models being listed at over 50 dollars a piece, yet they still seem to fly off the shelves when it's something people want and a product people trust. The issue I have is when people complain baselessly, or aggressively without offer of solution.
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Amazing Gulf Air L-1011 by NG... i love it!
Awesome. I wasn't even going to get this but based on the discussion here, and your pictures, I preordered it. Thanks for the shots! Look at that print work!
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In case you aren't sick of hearing from me yet, I'd like to back up my words with evidence. On the top is a picture of the tail section of my 'Lochness Models' (AC L1011, Air Lanka. On the Bottom, is the NG photograph of their effort. If you can't see the difference between these two models. I can't help you. Of course. There is nothing wrong with either one. But one model in the category of paint and printing is FAR better than the other yet not without fault. It is easy to see in my opinion however that one is less worse than the other. (Yes I realize the 'Tristart titles are different sizes and yes, this is correct for both models, it is the tail section and tail logo that differs when it shouldn't).
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The original pictured in Lightsnack87 thread above has several mistakes. Who made that??
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The original pictured in Lightsnack87 thread above has several mistakes. Who made that??
I understand your point, but of the two models, which one is obviously closer to the original? It is a TIRED point to say the 1/1's aren't perfect. Pick something new. Be objective.
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The issue I have is when people complain baselessly, or aggressively without offer of solution.
I understand where you're coming from. I'd never post anything here myself that I wouldn't say to someone's face, but I'm only an outsider and not involved otherwise. Yes it's not pretty to watch, but I have a GJ Interflug IL-62M winging it's way to me and I won't be turning it back
I'm seeing it for what it is - venting from an insider who has an axe to grind and they're doing it in the classic cowboy style. Their single-actions were primed and ready...
Now who's riding the horse in front? That's what this is all about, and it's getting dirty.
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I understand your point, but of the two models, which one is obviously closer to the original? It is a TIRED point to say the 1/1's aren't perfect. Pick something new. Be objective.
it was a joke!
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it was a joke!
Hilarious. Look, I appreciate you trying to keep it light, and I'd prefer it that way too. Life is too short. But I do get a bit frustrated when people can't make an observation or two without getting belittled for having a thought. When folks pony up the cash that they do for these little objects, it's fair game in my opinion. Of course, that's all it is, an opinion.
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In case you aren't sick of hearing from me yet, I'd like to back up my words with evidence. On the top is a picture of the tail section of my 'Lochness Models' (AC L1011, Air Lanka. On the Bottom, is the NG photograph of their effort. If you can't see the difference between these two models. I can't help you. Of course. There is nothing wrong with either one. But one model in the category of paint and printing is FAR better than the other yet not without fault. It is easy to see in my opinion however that one is less worse than the other. (Yes I realize the 'Tristart titles are different sizes and yes, this is correct for both models, it is the tail section and tail logo that differs when it shouldn't).
It’s really going to come down what flaws you are willing to accept versus how much want to have a particular plane and livery. Nothing is perfect, but obviously some are better than others wildly varying across manufacturers and production year. For example, I have several Gemini 777s that I thoroughly enjoy as part of my collection in liveries from the early 2000s that likely aren’t going to be produced by anyone else for the foreseeable future, but wouldn’t buy any of their current 777s. On the same note I don’t really care for the NG A321 as it’s engines are just far too close to the ground. I’d almost always take an Aeroclassics A321 over the NG one, but 10/10 times I’m going to get an NG L-1011 over an Aeroclassics. Everyone has different dealbreakers and walk away points as to what they’ll spend money on. It’s all personal taste.
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You can easily see the NG Gulf 1011s windowline sits slightly too high when you look at the rear emergency exit door which is sitting lower than the the pax doors.
But I will get it nonetheless, simply because the mould as itself is extremely accurate - some won't undertstand, but thats life.
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I'm sure the real ones always gleamed like chrome!
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