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Old 03-21-2021, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This has been rumbling on in the background for sometime now but has potentially major ramifications for both 200 and 400 scale. Given that it has been widely discussed on various forums I don't see why I can't provide more information since there is definitely plenty of public interest in it and it could even impact you personally. Hopefully there will be a nice resolution but it is obviously far from DL acting alone.

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Thank god I already have my Northwest 757s and Delta 757s/L1011s. Does this also effect Northeast and Western..? Not now, but if NG decides to start making 727s, it probably will.
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Seems unfortunate that this had to happen... I mean does an airline need to care about unlicensed models, especially since we’re still in a global pandemic? A big fat no is my answer.

Nevertheless, I have a feeling someone, probably another manufacturer, complained about these unlicensed models. Makes me worried if other airlines will also follow suit on unlicensed models...
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Seems unfortunate that this had to happen... I mean does an airline need to care about unlicensed models, especially since we’re still in a global pandemic? A big fat no is my answer.

Nevertheless, I have a feeling someone, probably another manufacturer, complained about these unlicensed models. Makes me worried if other airlines will also follow suit on unlicensed models...
Some have before. Hopefully it can all be resolved amicably.
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Why posting twice the same topic?
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Why posting twice the same topic?
Because they were in different forums 1:200 and 1:400 and as everyone knows loads of people ignore forums they don't collect in. Of course one of them has already been moved to help hide it.

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Exactly. This is the law, just follow it.
It is the hypocrisy that gets me. Dream Jets, Patriot 767s etc - did they follow the law? All those orange box models made by GJ's partner JC Wings - do they follow the law? The old Blue Box - specifically excluded from this action and now owned by JC - did they follow the law? No they didn't or don't but of course it is NG, IF and AC that Delta are going after. Everyone knows why that is.
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Because they were in different forums 1:200 and 1:400 and as everyone knows loads of people ignore forums they don't collect in. Of course one of them has already been moved to help hide it.

The hypocrisy if from all manufacturers as they all know the rules and don't hesitate to bypass them when they don't like it.
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It is the hypocrisy that gets me. Dream Jets, Patriot 767s etc - did they follow the law? All those orange box models made by GJ's partner JC Wings - do they follow the law? The old Blue Box - specifically excluded from this action and now owned by JC - did they follow the law? No they didn't or don't but of course it is NG, IF and AC that Delta are going after. Everyone knows why that is.
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This is beginning to sound very similar to the Union Pacific licensing fiasco in the early 2000s. More or less UP started cracking down on model railroad manufacturers likely at the behest of one particular manufacturer who wished to monopolize the market. That also included all predecessor road names going back to the days of the transcontinental railroad. UP backed down after some internal changes and possible legal fights, but the model railroading world is a very different ecosystem than diecast airliners.

Anyways, thanks for reporting on this. I had dilly dallied on purchasing the recent NG Delta releases as most retailers seemed to have ample stock, but then it suddenly disappeared. This explains that.
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Makes me glad to have the Wavy Gravy 757, SkyTeam 737, and Thank You A321 from NG by now. Also have an A319 and A320 that are blue boxes, possibly Aeroclassics and unlicensed.

At this point, who will be left to “legally” produce Delta models going forward? Not many options left, especially for those that regularly do Delta models.
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Just imagine what those Delta CRJ's recently going for $$$ on ebay are going to be fetching now!
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Just imagine what those Delta CRJ's recently going for $$$ on ebay are going to be fetching now!
Gemini have a license so they'll be fine. That's the point.
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It would be good if all models were licenced. I don't know how or why airlines do or don't grant them.

Also, this is truly a niche market and volumes are very low. Surely the fee should be very low. Interesting to know what it is.
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I'm sure NG license their models. This was very evident when they made the TAP Tristar ( as mentioned) and had to get licensing permission from them to make it. I'm sure they must've done the same for the other airlines, but then, who knows, I could be wrong?!! On a different note, in my opinion, it's this legal sided b***sh** that has made the industry what it now is and yes I understand it to a point, but then it goes way beyond that and its stupid!! Even down to having to obtain the details of those private individuals who've purchased the product!!! What the hell?? You just have to look at anything on TV that might be set at an airport for instance and you will see all the tails of the airlines showing being blanked out!! It's pathetic and become very petty. The two parties guilty of making this world into what it has sadly become are the Accountants and the Lawyers!! Sorry if it causes offence but it's true and my opinion is not going to change!
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Gemini have a license so they'll be fine. That's the point.
It was not my intent on moving this thread to General Squawk to hide anything so sorry to ruin any conspiracy theories.

It was a thread started to point out Deltas recent decision to enforce their trademark rights therefore I thought it was best placed there. For those that thought I had a hidden agenda in moving it, that was not my intent..Therefore I have moved it back here along with the similar 200 post as well.

For the record I want to reiterate there are several manufacturers who have proper Delta licensing for models not just one, which is what the topic author is eluding to and wants everyone to believe.
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I'm merely reporting the news and what has been told me by reputable sources in the retailer community.

Actually Plane Speaking have informed me that they have the actual letter on their website so if you wish to see the entire letter it is here:

https://www.planelyspeaking.com/files/135703566.pdf
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I'm merely reporting the news and what has been told me by reputable sources in the retailer community.

Actually Plane Speaking have informed me that they have the actual letter on their website so if you wish to see the entire letter it is here:

https://www.planelyspeaking.com/files/135703566.pdf
Well the good news out of all this is that the manufacturers listed in that letter can go through the right legal channels, get licensed and continue on!
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Well the good news out of all this is that the manufacturers listed in that letter can go through the right legal channels, get licensed and continue on!
What about the LATAM 777 Galaxy Edge that JC Wings did recently? Was that ever licensed in any way, shape, or form?
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What about the LATAM 777 Galaxy Edge that JC Wings did recently? Was that ever licensed in any way, shape, or form?
none and either was the Star Wars 747. Like I said, I think the whole licensing thing is total BS but were lucky that a few one offs can sneak through. Its the mainstream ones that the issue of licensing arises..
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Well the good news out of all this is that the manufacturers listed in that letter can go through the right legal channels, get licensed and continue on!
... this... or simply go on like they did before... Delta's external law firm won't catch the Chinese... actually, they probably don't catch anyone outside the US as long it's not a big player like Herpa.

By the way, would've preferred we could continue discussing this interesting topic in one and the same thread. This splitting wasn't really helpful.
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... this... or simply go on like they did before... Delta's external law firm won't catch the Chinese... actually, they probably don't catch anyone outside the US as long it's not a big player like Herpa.

By the way, would've preferred we could continue discussing this interesting topic in one and the same thread. This splitting wasn't really helpful.
I did not split it...the thread was started in both forums by the same poster. I tried to combine it into one in the General Squawk section but the conspiracy theories started flying left and right.
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So many questions. I've noticed some interesting observable changes in the distributers over the past few weeks. Delta models mysteriously have been disappearing from listings. A decrease in the presence of certain responses from certain manuf. and retailers. Obviously "the game is a foot."
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The issue I have with this is that they've made a point to want to go after people who have purchased them. I understand going after the manufacturers and to a lesser extent the stores, but going after collectors is ridiculous. I've never looked into it, but I personally don't know if one plane or the other is licensed or not. I only know for sure in cases like Cathay because if it's not Herpa, then it's not licensed.

But BS like this gives me half a mind to never buy a Delta model again. In fact, once I have that CRJ I plan never to buy another again.

What they should do if it's really about the money, is reach out to those manufacturers and try to work out a licensing deal. Sounds dumb to to have contracts with all of these companies, but some collectors actively avoid certain manufacturers because the product offered is bad. Hell If I were an airline I'd at least do my research on who does arguably the best models and go with them.

But to be honest I think this will just blow over. I remember a similar thing about 12 or so years ago when I was informed that Phoenix would no longer be making Cathay models for this very reason. Well they certainly kept their word didn't they XD
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I would not worry about Delta going after model airplane customers. that would be a total PR nightmare. It is the lawyer spewing B.S. just so he can justify getting paid more...
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I'm sure most of you are already aware of this...when I checked one of the big retailers, for NW and Delta, it's only Gemini Jets ... or Gemini Jets available. How sad... I want my AV400 Delta A350 when it comes out.
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I would love to know the actual legality of Delta trying to obtain personal information from private customers of independent retailers who are not affiliated with the model makers in any way. This can't be entirely legal from a standpoint of buyer protection laws.
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The issue I have with this is that they've made a point to want to go after people who have purchased them. I understand going after the manufacturers and to a lesser extent the stores, but going after collectors is ridiculous. I've never looked into it, but I personally don't know if one plane or the other is licensed or not. I only know for sure in cases like Cathay because if it's not Herpa, then it's not licensed.

But BS like this gives me half a mind to never buy a Delta model again. In fact, once I have that CRJ I plan never to buy another again.

What they should do if it's really about the money, is reach out to those manufacturers and try to work out a licensing deal. Sounds dumb to to have contracts with all of these companies, but some collectors actively avoid certain manufacturers because the product offered is bad. Hell If I were an airline I'd at least do my research on who does arguably the best models and go with them.

But to be honest I think this will just blow over. I remember a similar thing about 12 or so years ago when I was informed that Phoenix would no longer be making Cathay models for this very reason. Well they certainly kept their word didn't they XD
I don't think that they can actually go after the consumers, just the importers and dealers.
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I would not worry about Delta going after model airplane customers. that would be a total PR nightmare. It is the lawyer spewing B.S. just so he can justify getting paid more...
How is this not already a PR nightmare? No matter what the actual facts are, people are already not real happy with ADI no matter their involvement, people will decide this is largely their fault anyway. There is no way this helps sales for any manufacturer that is a competitor to the manufactures listed on that letter or for Delta to that matter, this is entirely a lose-lose. No one is winning this and it in no way will help improve the sales of airplane models. It will probably mainly hurt people whose livelihoods depend on retail model airplane sales. Sad.
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Just speculating, but I imagine the request for names and addresses of who these retailers have sold Delta models to is so this law firm can mail similar form nastygrams to people they get addresses for requiring them to acknowledge that they are in possession of unlicensed intellectual property and make them promise not to resell it on eBay or anywhere.
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I did not split it...the thread was started in both forums by the same poster. I tried to combine it into one in the General Squawk section but the conspiracy theories started flying left and right.
I see... then, since the majority probably affects 1/200 scale models (or not?) a single thread in that forum would’ve been the better choice, I guess. Well, no problem at all.
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I still don't understand something. Why is Delta doing this now, out of nowhere? And will they do the same for Northeast and Western models?
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So after losing billions of dollars in 2020 operational losses, Delta feels the need to spend money on this?
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I would not worry about Delta going after model airplane customers. that would be a total PR nightmare. It is the lawyer spewing B.S. just so he can justify getting paid more...
What about those who are reselling the contraband on eBay?

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Just speculating, but I imagine the request for names and addresses of who these retailers have sold Delta models to is so this law firm can mail similar form nastygrams to people they get addresses for requiring them to acknowledge that they are in possession of unlicensed intellectual property and make them promise not to resell it on eBay or anywhere.
Who is going to pay for all of that mail? The law firms? L O L !! They will charge whoever hired them for all of the paper, postage, envelopes, ink, envelope lickers.

Then some local news will air footage of a parent holding the letter with 6-year old kid next to him and reporter will say some **** like, "Delta wants to take this model plane away from poor little Kevin. Delta says they are just enforcing the law. To find out more, we contacted XXXX company in Las Vegas, whom Delta referred us to for more details on why little Kevin can't have his model plane. XXXX company blames COVID......

Just ridiculous. Glad I just got my IF200 Northwest Bowling Shoe A319! Beautiful model! I'll have my lighter ready for that letter.

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NG boxes indicate they are licensed to make Boeing products. I don't see anything regarding Airbus, Lockheed, Bombardier or an airline on their box. I am not saying they don't have agreements, I just don't see them.

That said, NG makes the finest models in my opinion and they are a huge threat so none of this surprises me.

My advice to manufacturers (as a graphic designer for thirty years). Stop f'ing around and just get the proper legal rights. If you can't get it then don't make it because any company has the right to go after someone who steals their intellectual property. People love to debate the minutiae ad nauseam because the internet allows us to take whatever we want for free - no money, no guilt, no consequences.
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I smell an airline trying to re-coup every cent it can that it lost during COVID, I doubt they would be doing this under normal circumstances. Unless Delta has done something like this before? I can bet other airlines will see this and join in.

It's funny because a model of an airline is pretty much advertisement, if you walk into a travel agent and there's a giant model of a Qantas A380 sitting there, your first thought is Qantas, should I book a Qantas ticket ect ect...
But oh well, if it helps the airline survive, than so be it, I have huge respect for Delta, my favourite US carrier I've flown on!
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Then some local news will air footage of a parent holding the letter with 6-year old kid next to him and reporter will say some **** like, "Delta wants to take this model plane away from poor little Kevin. Delta says they are just enforcing the law. To find out more, we contacted XXXX company in Las Vegas, whom Delta referred us to for more details on why little Kevin can't have his model plane. XXXX company blames COVID......
This actually sounds pretty legit. But I doubt Delta is actually going to force customers who have legally purchased these models before Delta was even aware of their existence to return them or destroy them because one, it would be a PR nightmare, and two, I doubt there’s anything they can do about the models that made it to customers. We bought them legally with our own money, and have every right to keep possession of it.
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This actually sounds pretty legit. But I doubt Delta is actually going to force customers who have legally purchased these models before Delta was even aware of their existence to return them or destroy them because one, it would be a PR nightmare, and two, I doubt there’s anything they can do about the models that made it to customers. We bought them legally with our own money, and have every right to keep possession of it.
I agree with you totally. One possibility of trying to reach the collectors (if they even have the legal authority to do that) would be to keep them from being resold.
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Just speculating, but I imagine the request for names and addresses of who these retailers have sold Delta models to is so this law firm can mail similar form nastygrams to people they get addresses for requiring them to acknowledge that they are in possession of unlicensed intellectual property and make them promise not to resell it on eBay or anywhere.
I think any law firm requesting the personal details of private individuals is going to find itself recieving a letter informing it of a harrasment charge. That's certainly what I'd be doing where I to receive such a thing.
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So after losing billions of dollars in 2020 operational losses, Delta feels the need to spend money on this?


Maybe a thought of long term Investment: based on the bailout capital recd from government
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I mean, I wasn’t saying that this law firm will end up ordering the destruction of these models or anything. A cease and desist letter isn’t an order anyways. It’s a legal threat to stop X activity or we’ll sue you, more or less. Often they’re used to intimidate or disrupt individuals or corporations by forcing them to consult, and therefore pay, legal counsel even if the “aggrieved” party wouldn’t necessarily prevail in court.

Honestly, NG, Aeroclassics, and others may have a legal right to produce unlicensed models and retailers the right to sell them, but the real question is do they have the wallet deep enough to pay attorneys to argue those rights in court against Delta’s hired guns? Litigation is expensive and I can’t imagine diecast manufacturing or retailing is all that high of a margin business to begin with without added legal costs. Ultimately, I don’t think Delta has much to win by intimidating manufacturers and retailers, and certainly not collectors, but someone certainly has a lot to gain by restricting the sale of competing models.
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I will note that in actual fact Delta's position here is seriously legally dubious.

A trademark is for a SPECIFIC service and since Delta hasn't registered a trademark on Toys, there's no guarantee that their claim has any legitimacy.

I will also note that, in Europe, there's Strong precedent for this, as a model car maker actually won in court against a car manufacturer, and it is now definitive in EU law that making scale model cars DOES NOT mean a trademark violation.

If someone was to actually take delta to court, there's a chance that Canadian or US courts might agree with their EU counterparts. But of course, that would cost a lot of money, and Delta is using typical goonish tactics to make sure that their legally dubious claim is never actually tested in court.

I'm not a lawyer but at the minimum it would seem to show that the legal aspect may not be as black and white as some are assuming.
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I mean, I wasn’t saying that this law firm will end up ordering the destruction of these models or anything. A cease and desist letter isn’t an order anyways. It’s a legal threat to stop X activity or we’ll sue you, more or less. Often they’re used to intimidate or disrupt individuals or corporations by forcing them to consult, and therefore pay, legal counsel even if the “aggrieved” party wouldn’t necessarily prevail in court.

Honestly, NG, Aeroclassics, and others may have a legal right to produce unlicensed models and retailers the right to sell them, but the real question is do they have the wallet deep enough to pay attorneys to argue those rights in court against Delta’s hired guns? Litigation is expensive and I can’t imagine diecast manufacturing or retailing is all that high of a margin business to begin with without added legal costs. Ultimately, I don’t think Delta has much to win by intimidating manufacturers and retailers, and certainly not collectors, but someone certainly has a lot to gain by restricting the sale of competing models.


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That said, NG makes the finest models in my opinion and they are a huge threat so none of this surprises me.

My advice to manufacturers (as a graphic designer for thirty years). Just get the proper legal rights. If you can't get it then don't make it because any company has the right to go after someone who steals their intellectual property. People love to debate the minutiae ad nauseam because the internet allows us to take whatever we want for free - no money, no guilt, no consequences.
Yes, NG definitely has raised the standard for 1/400 scale models.

And my advice to manufacturers (as a simple collector): If someone raises the standard for what a 1/400 scale model should look like, meet or exceed that standard!! It's like NG is playing Olympic level gymnastics around other manufacturers who are still trying to make sand castles in a sand box.

Let's take GJ for example. 1/400 scale NWA A320 in bowling shoe livery announced. GREAT, one of my favorite liveries! Photos come out and we collectors are like *** NWA never had NEO engines on their A320s. And the engines are still gigantic. Not the first time GJ released A320s with huge engines. It's this kind of **** that puzzles me. We rant and complain about GJ's engines, and I can only guess GJ's management's reaction was, "whatever, don't give a ****. Too much of a hassle to correct it. Besides, there's plenty of new collectors that don't know any better. Hopefully they'll buy all of the stock.

Reverting back to old and ancient moulds. B737-700 and B777 come to mind. We already got tastes of the newer and better stuff. I don't want the old stuff anymore! Make moulds that will blow us away and the money will pour in. At least GJ is on board with the miniscule antennas - another example of things we expect on these models now.

Getting airlines to set lawyers after manufacturers and retailers may be one method of putting pressure on the competition and getting a short term win on preventing the sales of the competition's models. But it will not force collectors to compromise and settle for **** models. We already know what's possible in 1/400 scale. And many of us are learning how to use sites in Asia to get what we want. Win for non-American businesses, loss for U.S. retailers. Now that I think about it, the IF200 NWA A319 I just got was acquired from an eBay seller in Asia since I thought they were all sold out at my usual U.S. retailers' sites. I wonder what they are doing with that inventory sitting here in the U.S.? Better go check Craigslist!! Congratulations to whoever is behind the cause of this thread!

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Wow, my post was heavily edited. Fine, foul language being removed being the reason is fine. Message received, I will be careful with the language.

But that's not all that was removed. Discussing content about a different manufacturer (never even named the manufacturer) is not allowed here? I feel like I crossed an unwritten rule line that I thought only existed at the other 1/400 scale forum.

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Wow, my post was heavily edited. Fine, foul language being removed being the reason is fine. Message received, I will be careful with the language.

But that's not all that was removed. Discussing content about a different manufacturer (never even named the manufacturer) is not allowed here? I feel like I crossed an unwritten rule line that I thought only existed at the other 1/400 scale forum.

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I edited your post and may have removed some extra lines since it was heavy on the foul languages. Reading through that large message and editing the language to keep it meaningful and not to loose your full message was my objective.
The mouse selection could have advanced a bit extra resulting in content deletion.

pl check the forum rules. I have not even issued a warning yet to you nor have I deleted your post .
So I suggest we all watch the language so I dont have to edit any posts in the future.
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I would not worry about Delta going after model airplane customers. that would be a total PR nightmare. It is the lawyer spewing B.S. just so he can justify getting paid more...
And if they do, lets hope it turns completely on it's head the same way as the United passenger eviction episode!!!
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