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Old 01-16-2021, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there, was given an unboxed 737 as a random gift. It's neat desk candy, and I was thinking of expanding into a fleet.

Wingspan is about 86mm, nose to tail (excluding stabilizers) is about 94mm, 98mm if I try to get the horizontal stabilizers in. The body feels like metal, while the wings and stabilizers are plastic. Engines appear to be metal. The plane is unmarked, and the base (possibly not original to the plane) is unmarked.

The registry number N382DA is for a 737-800, but this model has eyebrow windows and an older paint scheme (does the scheme have a name?), as well as no winglets. I don't know much about 737 variations or the accuracy of the model itself.
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Old 01-16-2021, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi there, was given an unboxed 737 as a random gift. It's neat desk candy, and I was thinking of expanding into a fleet.

Wingspan is about 86mm, nose to tail (excluding stabilizers) is about 94mm, 98mm if I try to get the horizontal stabilizers in. The body feels like metal, while the wings and stabilizers are plastic. Engines appear to be metal. The plane is unmarked, and the base (possibly not original to the plane) is unmarked.

The registry number N382DA is for a 737-800, but this model has eyebrow windows and an older paint scheme (does the scheme have a name?), as well as no winglets. I don't know much about 737 variations or the accuracy of the model itself.
This plane is made by Dragon Wings 21 years ago. The paint scheme is known as the Ron Allen scheme. I have this plane in my collection.
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Yes, easy one and still a nice model

The eye brows windows were deleted in the early 2000s (I don't remember exactly)

The scheme is called Dalta interim colours, late 90s
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Definitely Dragon Wings from the plastic stand included with the model, to the interchangeable landing form.
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Just from the nose it’s the dragon.
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The paint scheme is known as the Ron Allen scheme.
It never had an official name as far as I can tell, but everyone knows it as the Ron Allen scheme because it was tied to the worst CEO that Delta ever had. My stepdad was a Delta captain and went through that era. I personally like the livery, but anything that came after the Widget was bound to catch criticism (the Widget being the best livery of all time IMO, and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that). The fact that Ron Allen ordered the rebranding and was shortly thereafter shown the door creates a distaste for this livery in a lot of people's minds though.

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Just from the nose it’s the dragon.
Why is that? I'm brutally new to collecting aircraft.
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Why is that? I'm brutally new to collecting aircraft.
Welcome to the forum. You may want to have a look at a few pages from my site to help you understand a bit about collecting, the history of Dragon and 737-800s on 400 scale. Try these pages:

Intro to Collecting
https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/c...400-scale.html

History of 400 Scale Part 1:
https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/1...1996-2000.html

History of Dragon Wings
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737-800 Mould Review:
https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/boeing-737ng.html

400 Scale Year in Review 2020 Pt1:
https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/m...-review-part-1
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Thank you so much! A bit off the topic for this thread, but a search didn't give me an answer. For the Hogan Wings Air France retro livery A320 (can't link yet as I'm still a newbie), is the landing gear removable like my 737 for a faux gear up appearance or am I stuck with gear down?
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Thank you so much! A bit off the topic for this thread, but a search didn't give me an answer. For the Hogan Wings Air France retro livery A320 (can't link yet as I'm still a newbie), is the landing gear removable like my 737 for a faux gear up appearance or am I stuck with gear down?
Only Dragon produced models with removable landing gear. Nowadays gear detailing means it isn't really feasible. If you want the gear up option and stands you'll have to upscale to 1:200.

To be honest Herpa and Hogan's models (they share moulds) in 400 scale are usually weak in comparison to everyone else's (aside from for some obscure types - AN124, Concorde).
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Thank you so much! A bit off the topic for this thread, but a search didn't give me an answer. For the Hogan Wings Air France retro livery A320 (can't link yet as I'm still a newbie), is the landing gear removable like my 737 for a faux gear up appearance or am I stuck with gear down?
In 1:400 scale only Dragon Wings models offered a gear up or gear down display option. They all came with attachable gear bay doors for the gear up look and a little plastic stand. Dragon Wings no longer operate in the 1:400 arena, bar the odd corporate product for airline promotional purposes (If they even still do that ?)

All the other 1:400 players have gear down only product, and there's a variety of options in terms of individual aircraft types and how good or bad they are. Reading some of the articles on Rob Stretton's website is a really good way to get started.

Good luck and enjoy the hobby, it's very addictive once you get started. i only meant to buy one model of a plane i flew on and 18 years later I've got hundreds of these little things.
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Ha ha oops, I was just talking to my colleague 'Rob' earlier. He didn't mention anything about having a brother...
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So now I need to decide what to collect, and what scale!

My first thought was to limit myself to planes I've flown in. That restricts me (currently) to a Southwest 737-800, US Airways 757-200, a Delta MD-95/Boeing 717 and Delta Embraer E-175.

Or I could go by airplanes I've been aboard/seen in person, even if they haven't been in flying condition. That opens up the 767 Spirit of Delta, the 747, plus a slew of interesting prop planes and flying boats.

Or don't even bother connecting it to my real world experiences, and pick stuff up like the A319 in BEA livery, or a Delta A220-300. Or do a family tree of Boeing 707, 727, 737.

I like retro livery because it's so much more interesting to me than plain white, winglets, and ample engines. I like models to be in flight condition on a stand, gear up. How do you decide?
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So now I need to decide what to collect, and what scale!

My first thought was to limit myself to planes I've flown in. That restricts me (currently) to a Southwest 737-800, US Airways 757-200, a Delta MD-95/Boeing 717 and Delta Embraer E-175.
You'll get bored of this one quickly and may struggle to find the exact models.

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Or I could go by airplanes I've been aboard/seen in person, even if they haven't been in flying condition. That opens up the 767 Spirit of Delta, the 747, plus a slew of interesting prop planes and flying boats.
747s can be hard to find at the moment and there are no flying boats in 400 scale.

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Or don't even bother connecting it to my real world experiences, and pick stuff up like the A319 in BEA livery, or a Delta A220-300. Or do a family tree of Boeing 707, 727, 737.
This is not a bad idea - you could go for one of every type maybe.

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I like retro livery because it's so much more interesting to me than plain white, winglets, and ample engines. I like models to be in flight condition on a stand, gear up. How do you decide?
It really depends on how many models you want to buy BUT if you are only after 10-20 and want them displayed on a stand gear up then I would strongly suggest that 200 scale not 400 scale is a better fit for you.

Dragon Wings are the only gears up manufacturer in 400 scale, they no longer make models, most of their models are considered obsolete, their printing is not to today's standards and their models lack the details of modern 400 scale.

So to round up:
  • How many models is 'enough' for you?
  • Do you really need them gear up on stands?
  • How much $ do you have to spend?
  • Are you willing to wait a long time to find specific models or wait for them to be released?

You said you like retrojets so you could perhaps just collect retrojet schemes. There are quite a few available and that would limit your numbers, although it would also severely limit the airlines and aircraft types you get as well.
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There is only one important thing in collecting: Buy what you like and like what you buy

Over the time your collection criteria will change, that's normal.

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So now I need to decide what to collect, and what scale!

My first thought was to limit myself to planes I've flown in. That restricts me (currently) to a Southwest 737-800, US Airways 757-200, a Delta MD-95/Boeing 717 and Delta Embraer E-175.

Or I could go by airplanes I've been aboard/seen in person, even if they haven't been in flying condition. That opens up the 767 Spirit of Delta, the 747, plus a slew of interesting prop planes and flying boats.

Or don't even bother connecting it to my real world experiences, and pick stuff up like the A319 in BEA livery, or a Delta A220-300. Or do a family tree of Boeing 707, 727, 737.

I like retro livery because it's so much more interesting to me than plain white, winglets, and ample engines. I like models to be in flight condition on a stand, gear up. How do you decide?
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So now I need to decide what to collect, and what scale!

My first thought was to limit myself to planes I've flown in. That restricts me (currently) to a Southwest 737-800, US Airways 757-200, a Delta MD-95/Boeing 717 and Delta Embraer E-175.

Or I could go by airplanes I've been aboard/seen in person, even if they haven't been in flying condition. That opens up the 767 Spirit of Delta, the 747, plus a slew of interesting prop planes and flying boats.

Or don't even bother connecting it to my real world experiences, and pick stuff up like the A319 in BEA livery, or a Delta A220-300. Or do a family tree of Boeing 707, 727, 737.

I like retro livery because it's so much more interesting to me than plain white, winglets, and ample engines. I like models to be in flight condition on a stand, gear up. How do you decide?
Welcome to the forum and collecting!
You could focus on your favorite aircraft types or airlines?
I personally try to collect as many 727's, 747's and A340's as I can while focusing on my favorite airlines (Qantas, TAA, Ansett ect) and trying to collect at least 1 of each aircraft type (1 AN124, IL62 ect ect). I also try and collect the planes I've flown on (doesn't have to be the exact rego, just the same livery).
it's very addicting and you'll find if you don't follow a criteria it will get out of hand very quickly, unless you want it to get out of hand.
400 scale is the best scale IMO in terms of detail and price balance, good if you don't have much room and a huge variety to choose from.
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So the better question then, is how folks display their 1:400 aircraft. Clear risers?
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So the better question then, is how folks display their 1:400 aircraft. Clear risers?
Everyone's different.

RStretton's pics (yesterdaysairlines.com - go look, it's impressive) is one end of the spectrum.

On the other end of the spectrum, i have 400 boxed planes sitting on my dining room table at the moment (not much other use for it since with COVID can't have guests over anyways, right?)
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I saw that, it's amazing. I was drooling over the Pan Am collection earlier.
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I saw that, it's amazing. I was drooling over the Pan Am collection earlier.
You can get stands for the models - they are just not always easy to find. I get a lot of the black plastic Witty Wings style stands myself, which can be acquired from China for peanuts.

My friend Denny Payne has a big collection and he uses plastic risers, which work well for him.
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My friend Denny Payne has a big collection and he uses plastic risers, which work well for him.
Yep I got a bunch of these acrylic risers that measure about 3x4 inches (this is a shot of my old shelves - currently building new ones in the new house).

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