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Old 01-14-2021, 02:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Very nice mate, love the 747sp and Singapore a350
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Hopefully see my SP show up tomorrow. Nice set there.
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Got the SP yesterday...fantastic model
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That SQ A359 looks stunning!
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The SP mould is an absolute stunner. Thanks for the kind words, guys.
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The SAA SP.... a nice model, with an inaccuracy which NG (and other manufacturers aswell) should avoid in the future:

The window-/cheatline on the right side of the fuselage is bend-up in the front - barely noticable wehn you look at the model from the side, but looking weird when you look at the model from the front.
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The SAA SP.... a nice model, with an inaccuracy which NG (and other manufacturers aswell) should avoid in the future:

The window-/cheatline on the right side of the fuselage is bend-up in the front - barely noticable wehn you look at the model from the side, but looking weird when you look at the model from the front.
I respect wanting NG to be as best as they can when it comes to making models (I want that to be the case too), but in my opinion I feel like this is borderline nitpicking. No model is going to be 100% perfect.
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I respect wanting NG to be as best as they can when it comes to making models (I want that to be the case too), but in my opinion I feel like this is borderline nitpicking. No model is going to be 100% perfect.
First of, I like this model, and I keep it in my collection. but still I have my claims when I collect models. And one MINIMUM standard should be both cheatlines on the same level and a non crooked cockpit windows.
It is up to you avoid having your own standards. For me, I could live with both sides bent-up, but one side differing that way from the other simply looks off imho.

What I would like to know: did you really wait to quote this thread until I complained about something, so you can critisize me for that?
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It is up to you to avoid having your own standards. For me, I could live with both sides bent-up, but one side differing in that way from the other simply looks off imho.


What I would like to know: did you really waited to quote this thread until I complained about something, so you can critisize me for that?
Here’s the thing: it’s not just you, there’s several others I’ve seen who’ve nitpicked NG’s 747SPs for a while now. Not gonna specify who, but just know there’s others. NG is not gonna be perfect; there will always be some sort of mistake made. On a given model, if it’s such a tiny detail that the average collector isn’t gonna notice, I find it a waste to be nitpicking it. I find leaving it be and appreciating the model as it is the best option.

Now if it’s a major issue, like incorrect colors or some type of significant mold inaccuracy, then I agree. Otherwise, the details you specified in the images is not worth anyone’s time to be nitpicking.
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Now if it’s a major issue, like incorrect colors or some type of significant mold inaccuracy, then I agree. Otherwise, the details you specified in the images is not worth anyone’s time to be nitpicking.
Here is the discrepancy:

It is just a matter of from what pov you look at a model - you call incorrect colors a major issue. So YOU are nitpicking yourself too, it is just you are having other criteria than me. For me it is moulding and printing - full stop.

And further being a collector does not mean to me having 150+ models ín a cabinet or on a shelf and regarding them from a distance. When you pick out one to look at in particular you'll notice what's wrong with it - colors or moulding.
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Here is the discrepancy:

It is just a matter of from what pov you look at a model - you say colors are a major issue. So YOU are nitpicking yourself too.
The average collector probably won’t look at the model from the front, nor would they care to notice the 1 to 2mm difference in height of the windows. I don’t know the exact difference but nevertheless it’s very insignificant.

Very minor color issues are tolerable for me. But if it’s a point to where the model looks very off, then I am going to say a thing or two. My Gemini Jets American A320 has the very wrong shade of gray, way too dark. Now if it was a shade or two off then I wouldn’t mind. But the super dark gray really ruins the model. The color on there is not a minor detail on that model, it’s the majority of the model. Now if the incorrect color was a small portion of the model then I wouldn’t bother.


There’s a difference between nitpicking a small detail and nitpicking a larger detail. Small details like passenger windows, radome markings among others aren’t worth it to nitpick unless if it ruins the model, like the alignment of the passenger windows being very off, not the 1 or 2mm it is as shown on the nose of the SAA 747SP.

Edit: just noticed you edited your reply, and I do respect the differing criteria. It’s just I find nitpicking minor issues like small color errors, window alignments that are off by a small bit, among other minor detail errors, a waste. I won’t bother to complain about the very minor issues because there’s nothing you can do about it. No amount of complaining is going to change the look of that specific model. Now can it change it for future models? Yes, and I respect that, but the current model you have isn’t going to change.
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The average collector probably won’t look at the model from the front, nor would they care to notice the 1 to 2mm difference in height of the windows. I don’t know the exact difference but nevertheless it’s very insignificant.

Very minor color issues are tolerable for me. But if it’s a point to where the model looks very off, then I am going to say a thing or two. My Gemini Jets American A320 has the very wrong shade of gray, way too dark. Now if it was a shade or two off then I wouldn’t mind. But the super dark gray really ruins the model. The color on there is not a minor detail on that model, it’s the majority of the model. Now if the incorrect color was a small portion of the model then I wouldn’t bother.

There’s a difference between nitpicking a small detail and nitpicking a larger detail. Small details like passenger windows, radome markings among others aren’t worth it to nitpick unless if it ruins the model, like the alignment of the passenger windows being very off, not the 1 or 2mm it is as shown on the nose of the SAA 747SP.
1 or 2mm do mean a lot in 1/400 first - printingwise and also regarding assembly.

Then, as you stated your criteria once again on the example AA 320 - it would never come to my mind complaining about any shade of color-inaccuracy - so you see once again we just have different criteria when it comes to collecting of airliner models. Even when an airline being my holy grail would be released in an off-shade...as long as it matches the basic color (red should be red and blue should be blue) i wouldn't complain.
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1 or 2mm do mean a lot in 1/400 first - printingwise and also regarding assembly.

Then, as you stated your criteria once again on the example AA 320 - it would never come to my mind complaining about any shade of color-inaccuracy - so you see once again we just have different criteria when it comes to collecting of airliner models. Even when an airline being my holy grail would be released in an off-shade...as long as it matches the basic color (red should be red and blue should be blue) i wouldn't complain.
The assembly, yes (ex: wings not slotted correctly), printing not so much if it’s on one tiny portion.
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The SAA SP.... a nice model, with an inaccuracy which NG (and other manufacturers aswell) should avoid in the future:

The window-/cheatline on the right side of the fuselage is bend-up in the front - barely noticable wehn you look at the model from the side, but looking weird when you look at the model from the front.
My BA B744 by Hogan Wings (1:200) does have the same issue with the left windows not being printed at the same height (windows on the left side are lower).
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The assembly, yes (ex: wings not slotted correctly), printing not so much if it’s on one tiny portion.
As I said, 1 or 2mm is a big in 1/400. I would assume the average pax window has got a height of 1-1,5mm. so you can imagine the width of a standard cheatline. To me having a 3mm cheatline being elevated 1mm on one side of the model is an issue i'd like being solved.

Yes, I might be a nitpicking minisculist here, but these are the dimensions we are talking about in this scale.
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My BA B744 by Hogan Wings (1:200) does have the same issue with the left windows not being printed at the same height (windows on the left side are lower).
That is why I like having a lokk at the models before I am purchasing them and why satisfaction level used to be nearly 100% before the pandemic.
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The average collector probably won’t look at the model from the front, nor would they care to notice the 1 to 2mm difference in height of the windows. I don’t know the exact difference but nevertheless it’s very insignificant.
Nope.

If this would be the case you (as I already stated) you're doing better collecting bricks being painted in the same liveries, if you just want an "ocean" of AA, NWA or whatever models to look at.

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That Air Transat L-1011 looks amazing! Congrats!
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The SAA SP.... a nice model, with an inaccuracy which NG (and other manufacturers aswell) should avoid in the future:

The window-/cheatline on the right side of the fuselage is bend-up in the front - barely noticable wehn you look at the model from the side, but looking weird when you look at the model from the front.
I am glad I am not the only one to see this. My 2 copies both have this printing irregularity. Nonetheless, the cockpit window placement relation to the upper deck pax windows is much better and the nose shape also looks better... Not sure if that is because of the SAA livery, but it looks better than the Iran Air.
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I respect wanting NG to be as best as they can when it comes to making models (I want that to be the case too), but in my opinion I feel like this is borderline nitpicking. No model is going to be 100% perfect.
I agree, and I dont want to be seen to be having a go at anyone, but these are 1/400 scale models, and the degree of accuracy people are expecting is perhaps just too much? Certainly in a situation like this anyway.

Having said that, the assessment of moulds is really useful, but there is a fine line between critical assessment and nit-picking.
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For me, I could live with both sides bent-up,
You're joking? Far too many models have window cheatlines printed too high, distorting the cockpit printing and making the pax doors ridiculously high! This completely ruins the model for me.
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You're joking? Far too many models have window cheatlines printed too high, distorting the cockpit printing and making the pax doors ridiculously high! This completely ruins the model for me.
Look at the window line on this A321 by NG models, I ended up buying the Gemini version.
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You're joking? Far too many models have window cheatlines printed too high, distorting the cockpit printing and making the pax doors ridiculously high! This completely ruins the model for me.
Better have two cheatlines too high (but on the same level) than two cheatlines on different heights.
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