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Old 09-22-2020, 07:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Few manufacturers and brands have had the impact that Big Bird have had considering the short period they existed. As per usual their history is rather messy but Big Bird/Aeroclassics 747s are still the gold standard due to their rarity and because nobody else has properly attacked the type. Read on for the history of BB400:

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Old 09-22-2020, 07:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Still have the America West Airlines 747-200 N531AW, still one of my favorites. I have 5 BB400's, 2 Aeroclassics and 1 Apollo.

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I should try to find one of the BB 747’s; you’ve peaked my curiosity.
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I have a few BB400 models. The CX B742 and B744 Cargo set, being my favorite.
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I have many, many Aeroclassics and BigBird400 747's, and consider them the greatest models in my collection. Thankfully I bought many before people started demanding idiotic prices for them (drop the asking prices, folks!). The November 2015 Waffle collection sale was probably the greatest AC/ BB 747 event since my entry into the serious hobby around 2010. I got 38 747's and most of them were AC/ BB. That sale actually anchored my continuance in the hobby, because I was starting to wonder if I would ever get the Queen of all 1:400 models. Some of them were already not easy to find at reasonable prices. I of course had missed the original releases by date of entry into the hobby, and have had to hunt them.

Now, I only buy a few AC /BB 747's a year. I will not feed the idiotic gouging racket, and do find them once in a while at prices I'm willing to pay.

This is THE most important mould in all of 1:400. It holds up very well in 2020. Aeroclassics' new releases are hit or miss on color so far. The Swissair looks great but the TAP is WAY too dark, enough that I'm going to sell mine. I'm getting used to the broomstick handle aerials someone added (in place of the original fine ones). *Please do not get colors too dark.*

But at least the mould is out and being used, as it should be. I expect to be buying most of what AC produces as long as the colors are good.

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I have the BB UPS 747-100F O/C, one of my holy grail's!
The last 747-100's that flew into Sydney.
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I have a few of their 763s and they are all really quite excellent. As you say, they stand up very well today.
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The AC/BB 747s I have are my favorite/most prized models in my collection. I've got a little over 100 of them and I'd have bought more if not for a break in collecting between 05 and 07. I must have spent 5 years searching for and missing on one of the BA World Tails before I managed to find it at a reasonable price and complete the set of BA 747s.

I've got a dozen or so of the 767s (all of the BA versions) and a few that I've flown on over the years. Lovely models and I do wish a few more had been made.

Like BWI I tend to only purchase them if reasonably priced, and that means rarely do I ever buy them outside of shows. Last year at Gatwick I managed to pick up a second "City of Everett" Boeing House Colors 747-100 and the American/Pan Am Hybrid 747-100 for £35 each. I was also able to grab a few at the Amsterdam show in 2019 for under €50. Made those trips worth it.

I did break the bank on two in the last 12 months, my Varig 747-200 was damaged in a house move and for some reason I had never picked up the Varig 744 over the years. Fortunately I was able to pick those up at reasonable prices from a fellow DACer and on Facebook.

As always a handful have thus far eluded me and the hunt continues for a Lufthansa 742 in the 70s colors, the Varig 747-300 (I'm prepared to swap my first born for this one), an Air NZ 742 and a couple of the Qantas 742s.
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I too have many BB's and Aeroclassics renditions of the 747 and 767 moulds. My first 767 was the Aer Lingus green top example and I recently spent a small fortune completing my BA Utopia 744 collection by acquiring the 'Water Dreaming' example for way over £100 !

As the so called Big Bird Mk3 proved, these moulds are still solid today, and with the addition of antenna and more modern gear, have stood the test of time. But of course latter day releases have been few and far between. I'm hoping NG will bring us a range of classic 747's soon, to envy those early Big Birds, and hey maybe Gemini will start releasing some more classics again in competition. Especially now that the 747 is becoming an increasingly rare animal.

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Here's my 2 Bigbird models.
Also note for whatever reason, my N705CK does not have the engine reverse thrust painted as most of them do (judging by photos).
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Got numerous BB/AC 747s back when they were released. Really liked the mould (742) back then. Favourite still is the SAA delivery cs 742 despite of some errors.

Though I'd love to see them re-released on an NG mould which I expect to be far superiour, particularly around engines, pylons and overall shape (that tail on the BBs...)
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The 747 was never my main focus aircraft, which is the DC-8. As with most collectors we want it all, but due to a budget and space, have to pass on a whole lot of models. Going through my collection I do have:

7 Big Bird/Aeroclassic 747s
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Is that Avianca 747 not made by Aeroclassics, i have the same one or i assume both companies shared the same 747 mould at one point..

Anyway i'm so ready for Aeroclassics to also make a Avianca 767-200 soon..
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That Avianca 747 looks gorgeous.
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When I left 1:400 I kept my BA World Tail 747's, most of the others went on Ebay or to Waffle! You boys probably snagged some of them and are enjoying them as I did!
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When I left 1:400 I kept my BA World Tail 747's, most of the others went on Ebay or to Waffle! You boys probably snagged some of them and are enjoying them as I did!
Yeah the two Utopias I pictured together above came from Waffle, and given the mark up he put on them (and therefore inflated import tax) are still the most expensive 1:400 models I've ever bought.
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The best for sure. I have one BB BA 747-400 Utopia left if interested. It's the Botswana 'Animals and Trees' Tail. Mint with mint box. This was my favorite of all my models for some reason.
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I did break the bank on two in the last 12 months, my Varig 747-200 was damaged in a house move and for some reason I had never picked up the Varig 744 over the years. Fortunately I was able to pick those up at reasonable prices from a fellow DACer and on Facebook.

And it took EVERYTHING I had to pack up that Varig 744 and see it go! Glad it went to your collection. I know she's in great hands.
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Is that Avianca 747 not made by Aeroclassics, i have the same one or i assume both companies shared the same 747 mould at one point..

Anyway i'm so ready for Aeroclassics to also make a Avianca 767-200 soon..
Yes, went by the Latin Classics name. BB mould, Aeroclassics release.
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Yes, went by the Latin Classics name. BB mould, Aeroclassics release.
Yeah actually in that photo both the Avianca and National are Aeroclassics but as I say in the text after 2005 BigBird effectively ceased to exist and became a cover name for Aeroclassics. Since they were all made in the same factory anyway it made sense to treat Big Bird and Aeroclassics 767s and 747s in the same post.
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One thing not discussed is the absence of the name "Big Bird" on boxes/models. Do any of the boxes actually say Big Bird on them? The models I have only say Your Craftsman 400 on the boxes. Maybe other models that I don't have say Big Bird on the boxes? How is it that we have all collectively referred to these models being made by Big Bird?

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i am missing 4 of the BB for my BA fleet . They are now so expensive . But the old BB are the best

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Hopefully one day you can release all those nice models from their cardboard boxes and plastic cradles into a nice display of some sort. Many of us have the same collection problem.
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One thing not discussed is the absence of the name "Big Bird" on boxes/models. Do any of the boxes actually say Big Bird on them? The models I have only say Your Craftsman 400 on the boxes. Maybe other models that I don't have say Big Bird on the boxes? How is it that we have all collectively referred to these models being made by Big Bird?
Very few, IIRC, but I think I might have one or two - I will have to look as I unpack from my move. But I am interested in this question as well, because certainly most of mine only have Your Craftsman titles.
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I did break the bank on two in the last 12 months, my Varig 747-200 was damaged in a house move and for some reason I had never picked up the Varig 744 over the years. Fortunately I was able to pick those up at reasonable prices from a fellow DACer and on Facebook.

And it took EVERYTHING I had to pack up that Varig 744 and see it go! [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] Glad it went to your collection. I know she's in great hands.
Haha! It was very very much appreciated and filled a big hole in my 1980s and 90s MIA 747 collection. One of my recent pickups was an AC Aerolineas Argentinas 742... Just missing 2 or 3 more now...
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'Your craftsman' makes it sound like a furniture manufacturer or something.
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And those shelves are three deep...I've got issues.
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You could have bought my in-laws house on Key Biscayne down the road from you seeing its 3 deep!! You have issues my friend. issues no Dr or meds can cure you of! !
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When you realize the money you've spent on diecast in the past 20 years and your house could be paid off..
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Where do Magic Models fit into all this? Richard - you may have covered this before, and if you did, I missed it. Attached are images of my Magic Pan Am B747-121 N747PA Clipper Juan T. Trippe, Last Flight. A keeper, but with splotchy bare metal surfaces and slight paint bubbling. I'm sure the 1:1 N747PA had bumps and bruises when it finally made it to the boneyard too. Doug
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Sorry! If memory serves me correctly, mine went for $180 and $230.
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Sorry! If memory serves me correctly, mine went for $180 and $230.
WOW! $510 for the Avianca Tail and $240 for AV tail.
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Very few, IIRC, but I think I might have one or two - I will have to look as I unpack from my move. But I am interested in this question as well, because certainly most of mine only have Your Craftsman titles.

I have a a collection of British Airways 747's in the World Tails. Most for their boxes have 400 Your Craftsman, while others don't say at all besides saying 1:400 in a corner.
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WOW! $510 for the Avianca Tail and $240 for AV tail.
That is crazy...I obtained the AV Tail for £47 a few years back, a very lucky find. I watched a bid for an Aeroclassics JAT DC-10 end at £425 last week. The pandemic hasn't stopped people bidding hard for these 'grails, that's for sure.
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WOW! $510 for the Avianca Tail and $240 for AV tail.
I too was fortunate enough to purchase most of the BB/AC 747 releases when they first hit the market...but the AVIANCA duo was one of the few I missed and while I'll bite the bullet for these two, I will let the "hole of missing BB models" fester before I'll pay that much for these two birds
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That is crazy...I obtained the AV Tail for £47 a few years back, a very lucky find. I watched a bid for an Aeroclassics JAT DC-10 end at £425 last week. The pandemic hasn't stopped people bidding hard for these 'grails, that's for sure.
Hang on to it then. I think i can safely say that you will NEVER find one at that price ever again!
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I have a a collection of British Airways 747's in the World Tails. Most for their boxes have 400 Your Craftsman, while others don't say at all besides saying 1:400 in a corner.
So, where did the term "Big Bird" come from? I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, but does anyone have a box that has the words "Big Bird" on it?

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That is crazy...I obtained the AV Tail for £47 a few years back, a very lucky find.
The word 'crazy' is a understatement, i would call it madness but i would also hang on to your copy of the AV tail 747 if i was you.. it turns out that this AV tail model and the other Avianca 747 are very rare models it seems..
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Hang on to it then. I think i can safely say that you will NEVER find one at that price ever again!
I will do. I think you're probably right, unless they get made again by another manufacturer in the future - if NG does a B.741/2, then there could be a chance, I guess.
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The word 'crazy' is a understatement, i would call it madness but i would also hang on to your copy of the AV tail 747 if i was you.. it turns out that this AV tail model and the other Avianca 747 are very rare models it seems..
Indeed I was being modest, it just shows how much people are prepared to pay for these "Latin Classics". They were produced on a lower run as AdamJets exclusives back in the day, which is why they're so hard to find. Definitely a keeper!
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It sounds like Aeroclassics needs to do re-releases of both versions of the Avianca 747's. Maybe different reg's if possible, so not to strictly be re-releases.

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It sounds like Aeroclassics needs to do re-releases of both versions of the Avianca 747's. Maybe different reg's if possible, so not to strictly be re-releases.

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I don't think it's likely that we'll be seeing these again from Aeroclassics. In fact, unless NG comes up with a B.741/2 mould of their own, I'd say the chances of seeing this carrier released on this airframe again are nil. HK-2000 & HK-2300 already done; HK-2910X would be always be avoided most likely due to it being destroyed in a fatal accident in 1983. That leaves HK-2400X & HK-2900X as a B.747-124BSF/SF that could still be modelled as new reg's, barring the leased aircraft.
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