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Old 08-03-2020, 01:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Or am I imagining this?

Still awaiting my Panda Aeroflot Tu134.

Its tantalising seeing it available in the States and Australasia (via Richard).

Seems the same with Aeroclassics orders sometimes.

I'm not looking to apportion any blame here, after all it could down to the shop being slow in ordering models, but I'm just trying to understand why we seem to have to wait up to a month longer at times. Is it down to UK Customs? Or are there other potential reasons?
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I’ve heard European Customs are a royal pain the arse. The French get this month’s medal.
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Or am I imagining this?

Still awaiting my Panda Aeroflot Tu134.

Its tantalising seeing it available in the States and Australasia (via Richard).

Seems the same with Aeroclassics orders sometimes.

I'm not looking to apportion any blame here, after all it could down to the shop being slow in ordering models, but I'm just trying to understand why we seem to have to wait up to a month longer at times. Is it down to UK Customs? Or are there other potential reasons?
I get all my models from the USA or China. The Tu-134 was from the Waffle man
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I’ve heard European Customs are a royal pain the arse.
Amen. An eBay order of mine placed July 9 has been sitting in Spanish customs for 23 days, and I sense that it will be stuck there much longer yet. And yeah, the coronovirus isn't helping - this thing ain't over yet... Doug

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China Coronavirus is to blame for all shipping slowdowns worldwide!!!
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iirc I think the journey route goes hong kong area first. then Europe. then u.k and onto the states and finally Canada. u.k customs won't help either as had 2 models held up for nearly a month instead of a few days. been said MANY times all post is up the creek because of this virus.
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I always stick with Hong Kong sellers, i think they are the most reliable retailers IMO.. i had purchased three models from Hong Kong sellers on eBay last month, i got to tell you, always fast and great service.. by the way one of them was johanchan
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Or am I imagining this?

Still awaiting my Panda Aeroflot Tu134.

Its tantalising seeing it available in the States and Australasia (via Richard).

Seems the same with Aeroclassics orders sometimes.

I'm not looking to apportion any blame here, after all it could down to the shop being slow in ordering models, but I'm just trying to understand why we seem to have to wait up to a month longer at times. Is it down to UK Customs? Or are there other potential reasons?
Has it even shipped yet ? What does the package tracking say in terms of where it currently is ?

There have been huge delays and backlogs in various parts of the world lately owing to Covid-19. Demand for air freight and shipping has seen prices rocket and prioritising in favour of customers with the most money. It could mean your model is currently stacked in an Asian warehouse, or on a slow boat to Tilbury docks.

The worst delays I've experienced have been coming from China and Hong Kong of late, but those have cleared again after a few weeks. UK customs did have a quarantine period at the start of all this but generally speaking it's running like the proverbial train now.

I'm still awaiting my Tupolev too, but Engtaobao haven't even received mine in their warehouse yet, let alone shipped it.
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Squeaky wheel gets the oil... My AeroClassics ACDALUB Lufthansa original livery L-1649 Starliner just arrived from Spain in mint condition, altho tracking says it's still in sitting in customs in Spain. Life is Good, Doug

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iirc I think the journey route goes hong kong area first. then Europe. then u.k and onto the states and finally Canada.
I don't know, here in the US it seems I have most models shortly after they start showing up on Ebay from HK resellers (max a few weeks), and you guys in the UK still don't have them a month later.
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I don't know, here in the US it seems I have most models shortly after they start showing up on Ebay from HK resellers (max a few weeks), and you guys in the UK still don't have them a month later.


well that route was years and years ago! must have changed it with improved worldwide links now.
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I always stick with Hong Kong sellers, i think they are the most reliable retailers IMO.. i had purchased three models from Hong Kong sellers on eBay last month, i got to tell you, always fast and great service.. by the way one of them was johanchan
Funnily enough a Johan Chan delivery recently was my longest ever ! Ordered in early April and arriving in July. When I contacted them I was told Hong Kong Post had stopped receiving items for International small package delivery owing to the back log.
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Funnily enough a Johan Chan delivery recently was my longest ever ! Ordered in early April and arriving in July. When I contacted them I was told Hong Kong Post had stopped receiving items for International small package delivery owing to the back log.
I had the same from Johan Chan, but I also think that he uses the cheapest mail rate, as not all Hong Sellers take that long.
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I don't know, here in the US it seems I have most models shortly after they start showing up on Ebay from HK resellers (max a few weeks), and you guys in the UK still don't have them a month later.
I don't mind waiting, and of course I understand the coronavirus delay, but as Denny highlights, it seems US shops get their stocks from China quickly enough. Just an observation.
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I ordered the A330 mrtts from fantasywings in March but they were unable to ship them as the Hong Kong Post shut down due to Covid and I only just recieved them last week. I've got a united 757 her art here coming sometime this week. I think it also depends on who you order from, generally, I never have a problem from China or the US.
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...altho tracking says it's still in sitting in customs in Spain. Doug
Just heard from the eBay seller in Spain who read my previous posts. He says that the model cleared Spanish Customs on July 11, and the slow customs clearance actually happened on this end with U.S. Customs. Who knows? Delivery took a month, and that's not a problem - things are moving at a reduced pace these days... Doug
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Cheers all, as I say I don't mind waiting as long as I get it. Just worries me when you see others getting there's.
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I had the same from Johan Chan, but I also think that he uses the cheapest mail rate, as not all Hong Sellers take that long.
That may be true but then again his shipments are generally as 'on time' as anything else leaving Hong Kong.
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Amen. An eBay order of mine placed July 9 has been sitting in Spanish customs for 23 days, and I sense that it will be stuck there much longer yet. And yeah, the coronovirus isn't helping - this thing ain't over yet... Doug

Had a lot of vans buses cars from various sellers in Spain recently

I think all only took 2-3 week
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I'm still waiting for my Panda Tu134 and Surinam/KLM DC-8-63 and have no indication of when these might arrive.

May I ask if anyone else in the UK has received August Aeroclassics and a Panda Tu134?
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I'm still waiting for my Panda Tu134 and Surinam/KLM DC-8-63 and have no indication of when these might arrive.

May I ask if anyone else in the UK has received August Aeroclassics and a Panda Tu134?
Ordered my Tu-134 months ago, as far as I know it's not even been despatched yet.
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Cheers Al, its getting to the point where ordering things almost seems like a futile exercise and a waste of time and money.

As I said earlier, I fully understand that the coronavirus situation affects things.

I'm not blaming anyone imparticularly, but in my humble opinion the current system is simply not good enough. Over the past year I've managed to get less than 50% of my orders fulfilled.
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More shipping delays soon , when they need every Cargo space for the vaccin expeditions ... 8000 B747F needed. Sure prices will raise to
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Yet US customers get their orders (or so it seems, but please correct me if I am wrong), very quickly??

I find it hard to believe that any Panda Tu134 models allegedly destined for the UK, on order since July, are still stuck in some warehouse. Or am I underestimating the scale of the backlog?

Actually, its not really the delay that bugs me, its the doubt that my orders will ever materialise full-stop.
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Yet US customers get their orders (or so it seems, but please correct me if I am wrong), very quickly??

I find it hard to believe that any Panda Tu134 models allegedly destined for the UK, on order since July, are still stuck in some warehouse. Or am I underestimating the scale of the backlog?

Actually, its not really the delay that bugs me, its the doubt that my orders will ever materialise full-stop.
I'm assuming we're talking about the Aeroflot one - I've had mine for well over a month (in the US) - maybe closer to two months. Air Koryo ones haven't shipped yet AFAIK. I don't think this is particularly COVID related. I've gotten stuff from HK, China, Netherlands, Singapore, even *from* the UK, in 1-2 weeks, max 3, all in the last several months. But I've seen posts on the forums for years now regarding difficulty of getting models into the UK.
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I'm assuming we're talking about the Aeroflot one - I've had mine for well over a month (in the US) - maybe closer to two months. Air Koryo ones haven't shipped yet AFAIK. I don't think this is particularly COVID related. I've gotten stuff from HK, China, Netherlands, Singapore, even *from* the UK, in 1-2 weeks, max 3, all in the last several months. But I've seen posts on the forums for years now regarding difficulty of getting models into the UK.
Thanks Denny, appreciate you replying to me, as usual. Much appreciated mate.

I don't want to sound like a whinging pom (as the Aussies call us), but I doubt I will ever get my Aeroflot 134, doubt I will get my Surinam/KLM SDC-8 though in fairness that is too early to judge....Andrew Klein did tell us that ARD (London) had ordered more.

ARD, the same shop, advised me that they were waiting for the 134s, but a further month has passed and it is apparently the same situation.

I have 3 further orders with ARD that I have given up on now.

Sorry to sound so grim and frustrated.
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I'm assuming we're talking about the Aeroflot one - I've had mine for well over a month (in the US) - maybe closer to two months. Air Koryo ones haven't shipped yet AFAIK. I don't think this is particularly COVID related. I've gotten stuff from HK, China, Netherlands, Singapore, even *from* the UK, in 1-2 weeks, max 3, all in the last several months. But I've seen posts on the forums for years now regarding difficulty of getting models into the UK.
Thanks Denny, appreciate you replying to me, as usual. Much appreciated mate.

I don't want to sound like a whinging pom (as the Aussies call us), but I doubt I will ever get my Aeroflot 134, doubt I will get my Surinam/KLM SDC-8 though in fairness that is too early to judge....Andrew Klein did tell us that ARD (London) had ordered more.

ARD, the same shop, advised me that they were waiting for the 134s, but a further month has passed and it is apparently the same situation.

I have 3 further orders with ARD that I have given up on now.

Sorry to sound so grim and frustrated. I don't know why the UK is seemingly so difficult? It could be the shops not ordering adequate stock, it could be that demand for some models is unusually large and exceeds supply, but as a customer, its pretty damn poor unless the shop is on your doorstep and you know them personally.
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...because you chaps drink your suds warm!

in all seriousness, it seems with 1:200, UK gets product before US retailers, but I stopped buying from UK due to shipping times and damaged models!
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Just been told today, ARD (Aviation Retail Direct in London) have sold out of the Surinam/KLM SDC-8 and today told me they wouldn't be getting any more. Same with Bouraq HS748 & Air China A340 orders plus no chance of Retro Models Tu104. They also told me the Panda Tu134 was yet to be released, so I told then people got those two months ago. So I've managed to get 0 out of 5 orders.

All a bit grim considering I had orders in as soon as advertised (except the Retro Models Tu104 which was my fault being late).

Only orders I have managed to get were from elsewhere in Europe, including my lovely Ethiopian 707 from France, and gorgeous Air China A340 from Holland.

I think what is happening is that anything good is just going to local customers. Sadly, I think I 'm giving up purchasing as can't buy in UK and cost of models and P & P from abroad comes to nearly £70 each time.

Frustrating but hey-ho.
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Holy GrailsEthiopian (Done)/Royal Jordanian/Tarom/Dan Air/Florida West/Tampa/Millon Air/Air Zimbabwe/Azerbaijan 707's, Air Spain/Surinam(DONE)/Seaboard World DC-8's, Aviogenex/Malev/Aeroflot/Balkan Tu134, plus Any AN12, IL14, Syrian Air/Transeuropa Caravelle.

Favourite manufacturers - AeroClassics (when they stick to modelling), NG Models.
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