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Old 01-30-2020, 05:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I note that I have 5 models currently inbound from Hong Kong that, according to shipping/tracking info have not left Hong Kong in 10 days and ought to have arrived by now in the UK for processing if not actual delivery itself. I believe Fed Ex are advising customers of delays to packages inbound from China too, citing caution around aircraft movements relating to the Corona virus outbreak.

Is anyone else who is expecting model (or any there kind of) shipments from China experiencing this and are the manufacturers going to struggle to receive wholesale shipments too ?
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Presumably Chinese New Year has an effect too ?

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Since no one knows how this virus spreads, maybe you should hope your parcel never arrives.
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Since no one knows how this virus spreads, maybe you should hope your parcel never arrives.

While it varies by virus, most cannot survive for very long on surfaces and the period where they can infect you is less than their overall life on the surface itself.

As for the original question, I don't know if it's related or not but I had an IF200 pre-order from Waffle. It shipped directly to me from Malaysia today via DHL. DHL still shows a commitment of 2 business days.
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Chinese New Year is the main cause of delays. Corona virus has had little effect from what I’ve heard. DHL is probably the only one (I think) still committing to fast shipping times. Maybe FedEx or UPS is too if anyone has an idea?
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Chinese New Year is the main cause of delays. Corona virus has had little effect from what I’ve heard. DHL is probably the only one (I think) still committing to fast shipping times. Maybe FedEx or UPS is too if anyone has an idea?
FedEx and UPS are still flying out of China.
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While it varies by virus, most cannot survive for very long on surfaces and the period where they can infect you is less than their overall life on the surface itself.

As for the original question, I don't know if it's related or not but I had an IF200 pre-order from Waffle. It shipped directly to me from Malaysia today via DHL. DHL still shows a commitment of 2 business days.
Which model are you expecting? I'm debating over whether or not to pull the trigger on the USAir F-28-4000. Really need to see pics of the mold first.
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During Chinese New Year, China almost stops working. But now the epidemic Corona virus takes over. Factories in most regions in China have been forced by the government to keep their factories closed at least until Feb. 10th. Normally they would start next Monday the 3rd.

This also delays workers who went to their home town for the Holiday to return back.

This could delay new production for quite some time.......

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FedEx and UPS are still flying out of China.
But if everyone is on holiday what are they flying exactly ? Hence my original question.
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If nothing else, all the delays for whatever reason will give some a chance to catch up on all the recent releases that are with retailers outside of China!

Would wipe down those new arrivals from China with Lysol wipes, then damp cloth!
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Quarantine your packages for 10 days after receipt.
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If nothing else, all the delays for whatever reason will give some a chance to catch up on all the recent releases that are with retailers outside of China!

Would wipe down those new arrivals from China with Lysol wipes, then damp cloth!
I thought of that myself. Do you think the wipes are safe to use on them?
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I work at FedEx. I know we get A LOT of inbound Chinese packages but haven't noticed any changes in package volume from China. I won't know more until tomorrow but I'll make sure to keep you all up date on whether or not there is a current hold or will be in the coming days. I know whatever FedEx decides to do, UPS will do the same.
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I thought of that myself. Do you think the wipes are safe to use on them?
I think it would be okay. With that being said, while it depends on what it is, most viruses do not survive for very long on surfaces. Even those that do survive for several days, lose their ability to infect much sooner than they actually die.

So even if this package arrived today, I doubt very much that it was just packaged at the factory, shipped to a distributor, a retailer and arrived at your door in time for anything on the model to remain contagious. Spraying down the actual shipping box with Lysol spray probably wouldn’t be a bad idea though since that would be more recent. But they also say that viruses live an even shorter period of time on porous surfaces.
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IMHO models can take a back seat for now!! These guys ( China) have a major problem and no one really knows to what extinct this is going worsen or spread! I rather this bad situation gets sorted and the country uplifts itself from this badly timed horrible situation, before I worry about models! Sorry guys but that's just my thoughts!
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IMHO models can take a back seat for now!! These guys ( China) have a major problem and no one really knows to what extinct this is going worsen or spread! I rather this bad situation gets sorted and the country uplifts itself from this badly timed horrible situation, before I worry about models! Sorry guys but that's just my thoughts!

My thoughts exactly - let's put our toys aside for a while and look at what's happening. Doug
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IMHO models can take a back seat for now!! These guys ( China) have a major problem and no one really knows to what extinct this is going worsen or spread! I rather this bad situation gets sorted and the country uplifts itself from this badly timed horrible situation, before I worry about models! Sorry guys but that's just my thoughts!
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My thoughts exactly - let's put our toys aside for a while and look at what's happening. Doug
I totally agree. While I'm waiting for a couple of packages from HK myself which haven't moved for 2 weeks, it can take a backseat completely as this is so trivial and insignificant against the real crisis that has been unfolding. People have died from this How the hell can I worry about models against that!?
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Snowghost...in all seriousness, yes the Lysol wipes are safe. After the Lysol liquid dissipates I use a damp microfiber cloth to wipe off the residue. Never had a problem with any damage. I do this on the second hand models I buy. Do it with the boxes as well. Cleans them up nice!
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isn't this virus spread AIRBOURNE?? so shouldn't affect anything you touch?
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I received 2 messages from eBay sellers. Both purchases from China are delayed due to virus. Not sure what the procedure is for mail.
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Robertjon5...I don't know, but I have done this for years as there is other nasty stuff out there and some of the used planes I've received (not all) have been filthy! Food and who know what else...possibly fecal matter! Too with as many creepy wheezers I've seen at airliner shows and the lack of hygiene, one can't be too cautious!

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HK Post offices have been closed for over 2 weeks, as have those in Mainland China. Courier companies "kuai di" are all on limited duty, and most for medical supplies or food.

My honest opinion; no new releases in Feb. or March 2020, unless they happen to already be on that proverbial slow boat from China.
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This should clear up a lot of fake news here....

Here is the history of (2) 1/200 ebay models bought 1/21 and shipped as one package from Hong Kong on 1/23 and made it to Orlando Florida in one week arriving at my house 1/30.
I also was notified today that another 1/200 model purchased last week just left HKG today...

Thursday, Jan 30, 2020 7:10 AM ORLANDO , FL OUT FOR DELIVERY
Thursday, Jan 30, 2020 3:05 AM ORLANDO , FL ARRIVAL AT UNIT
2:15 AM ORLANDO , FL DEPART USPS FACILITY
Wednesday, Jan 29, 2020 9:03 PM ORLANDO , FL PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
Tuesday, Jan 28, 2020 6:33 AM FLUSHING , NY DEPART USPS FACILITY
Monday, Jan 27, 2020 10:10 AM QUEENS NY DISTRIBUTION CENTER Arrived at USPS Regional Facility
Monday, Jan 27, 2020 10:10 AM FLUSHING , NY PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
Friday, Jan 24, 2020 1:44 PM ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) ARRIVED AT INTERNATIONAL SERVICE CENTER
Thursday, Jan 23, 2020 2:01 PM HONG KONG GENERAL POST OFFICE Processed Through Facility

No gloves, no mask, opened up and both on dispaly..UPS DC-8 and AeroSucar 727
Enroute from HKG Boeing SP and Fed Ex 737..again no gloves, no mask ...

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IMHO models can take a back seat for now!! These guys ( China) have a major problem and no one really knows to what extinct this is going worsen or spread! I rather this bad situation gets sorted and the country uplifts itself from this badly timed horrible situation, before I worry about models! Sorry guys but that's just my thoughts!
Thats it for sure! I've never been more happy to live in Europe right now and having the luxury just to wait for a wile. Poor people in the far east are in huge danger right now. We've ain't seen nothing yet. This can become a crisis with pandemic proportions...

I wish them all the strength!
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I fear the number of infected and fatalities are being way under reported by the government there.
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Saw pics and a couple videos of medical facilities with dead in body bags strewn all over with those needing treatment nearby. Poor people. Those on cruise ships stuck, people being arrested for not wearing masks, video of authorities locking people in their apartments from the outside making sure they don't get out!

Was looking at the back of a Lysol wipe container and it lists it is effective against "Human Coronavirus". Even here in rural VA I saw people wearing face masks in the grocery store. Maybe for flu maybe for coronavirus.
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Saw pics and a couple videos of medical facilities with dead in body bags strewn all over with those needing treatment nearby. Poor people. Those on cruise ships stuck, people being arrested for not wearing masks, video of authorities locking people in their apartments from the outside making sure they don't get out!

Was looking at the back of a Lysol wipe container and it lists it is effective against "Human Coronavirus". Even here in rural VA I saw people wearing face masks in the grocery store. Maybe for flu maybe for coronavirus.
Dettol antiseptic liquid here in the UK lists effectiveness against Corona virus too. The thing is Corona virus is a group of flu viruses that this one resides within. SARS is another one, the current virus hasn't even been given a formal name yet. What will be interesting to note when all is said and done is the number of fatalities against average flu related deaths around the world at this time of year. Flu is already a pandemic, how far this one goes, remains to be seen.
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Back to topic, I see eBay are now putting additional info on tracking page saying packages from China may be delayed.

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Bought an IF200 747 stand (old cradle style) from HK the other day. Got tracking number and same delay note. Getting my Tyvek suit ready for when she arrives and a new tub of Lysol wipes!
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Looks like all my January delays are now within the UK Royal Mail system awaiting delivery. Hopefully see some tomorrow...
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GJ posted on their facebook that there will be no March releases, due to the virus and production shutdowns.

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I wonder if AC and the others will be in the same situation?!
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Looks like all my January delays are now within the UK Royal Mail system awaiting delivery. Hopefully see some tomorrow...
All of my outstanding models arrived Monday morning. Two visits by seperate postmen. It was like Christmas morning in my flat !
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Sadly I couldn't imagine that we would see any future releases for some time. I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully this can be resolved soon.
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There will be March Aeroclassics released.
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Las Vegas-based makers of collectible model planes impacted by coronavirus

LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- Las Vegas-based GeminiJets, makers of collectible model planes, has announced that it has been impacted by the coronavirus.
According to a news release from GeminiJets, due to the ongoing work stoppage in China, the company has announced there will be no new products in the foreseeable future.
While GeminiJets and its parent company, Airliners Distributing Inc. are headquartered in Las Vegas, their products are manufactured in China, the release said.
The company typically releases a new batch of GeminiJets precision, die cast aircraft models every five weeks. However, according to the news release, because the Chinese government has ordered factories and businesses to shut down to help prevent the spread of coronavirus, this has impacted the normal flow of manufacturing and production.
“The situation is beyond our control,” GeminiJets President Elliot Epstein said in a statement. “Our best-case scenario would still have us at least two months behind. We won’t have new product leaving China until at least April 1st at the earliest.”
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Las Vegas-based makers of collectible model planes impacted by coronavirus

LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- Las Vegas-based GeminiJets, makers of collectible model planes, has announced that it has been impacted by the coronavirus.
According to a news release from GeminiJets, due to the ongoing work stoppage in China, the company has announced there will be no new products in the foreseeable future.
While GeminiJets and its parent company, Airliners Distributing Inc. are headquartered in Las Vegas, their products are manufactured in China, the release said.
The company typically releases a new batch of GeminiJets precision, die cast aircraft models every five weeks. However, according to the news release, because the Chinese government has ordered factories and businesses to shut down to help prevent the spread of coronavirus, this has impacted the normal flow of manufacturing and production.
“The situation is beyond our control,” GeminiJets President Elliot Epstein said in a statement. “Our best-case scenario would still have us at least two months behind. We won’t have new product leaving China until at least April 1st at the earliest.”
Thanks, so we appear to have a bigger problem than that of delayed deliveries.
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The market is so flooded, maybe it will help the secondary market and move stock sitting on retailer shelves!
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