__________________ The greatest need in 1:400:Reissues of Major Passenger-Carrier 747 Classics: -100/200, -300, and SP, of NG / Aeroclassics / Big Bird Mk. 1 quality. Examples: American; United Blue-Star, Bass; TWA double globe, double stripe; Pan Am delivery; British Airways Negus, Landor; KLM 70's-80's blue top; Air France 70's-80's; Lufthansa 70's-80's; Aer Lingus delivery; Sabena 80's circle-s; Japan Air Lines 70's-80s; All Nippon 70's; and Qantas 70's-80's.
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AC has already done all these, except the house colors, and to be honest, there's nothing wrong with them. On the other hand, they've all sold out, so good luck finding one!!
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AC has already done all these, except the house colors, and to be honest, there's nothing wrong with them. On the other hand, they've all sold out, so good luck finding one!!
Everyone to his own, AKlein. I would purchase any of the above TriStars if released by NG again. They are beyond any TriStar mould produced over the past 20 years (and the mentioned AeroClassics TriStars were not even among the best of earlier L-1011s moulds, to say the least), and NG’s details and accuracy is almost out of another galaxy. So, hell yes, bring ‘em on!
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Note the Cathay Tristar when delivered brand new VR-HHK, the tail section near the nozzle of No.2 engine is painted white. Nobody ever done this one before.
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Didn't they just release JA8509, only last month??
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AC has already done all these [...] and to be honest, there's nothing wrong with them. On the other hand, they've all sold out, so good luck finding one!!
This is an odd assertion.
"These have already been done, so no need for them to be done again! You can't find them, but I still insist no need for them to be done again!"
It's a flimsy argument to suggest that because one manufacturer has previously done a subject, that no other manufacturer should try it. One could point to countless Aeroclassics examples, where they were second to market with a particular type/livery combo. And yet, in most-to-all examples, they still sold.
The reverse holds true, too. If Aeroclassics is the first to release, does not at all mean a different manufacturer shouldn't attempt the same. Especially if, as you point out, the production is already sold out. Those customers looking for that particular product, would welcome a second production run.
Didn't they just release JA8509, only last month??
Yes but that has the English titles, I suspect joeli16 wants the version with Japanese titles only as well. I also like to have all versions of a livery, to a point. I'd be on the fence about this one. (I did buy both TWA's though, with and w/o the black glare shield, since those represented different variants as well; a -200 vs a -50 IIRC).
But pretty much all the other subjects in the thread so far? Yeah, bring 'em on.
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Yes but that has the English titles, I suspect joeli16 wants the version with Japanese titles only as well.
Ahh. Very well. I see it now, missed it the first time.
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I also like to have all versions of a livery, to a point. I'd be on the fence about this one. (I did buy both TWA's though, with and w/o the black glare shield, since those represented different variants as well; a -1 vs a -50 IIRC).
Correct, the first was a -1, and the second was a -50. I also ended up getting both. The black glare shield didn't matter quite as much to me, I just liked how it was two different fleets; one a domestic bird, the other an international bird.
All great suggestions. I'd also like to see the BWIA -500 in original 1980 delivery c/s, which sported a polished fuselage and wore "Trinidad and Tobago Airways" titles. The belly was painted pale grey later on in 1982 and then much later on into the '90s the titles were altered to the strap-line "We are the Carribean" (the examples cited above show the aircraft in this later revision of the livery).
Here's 9Y-TGJ in original delivery condition in 1981, where she also carried her original name "Flamingo":
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All great suggestions. I'd also like to see the BWIA -500 in original 1980 delivery c/s, which sported a polished fuselage and wore "Trinidad and Tobago Airways" titles. The belly was painted pale grey later on in 1982 and then much later on into the '90s the titles were altered to the strap-line "We are the Carribean" (the examples cited above show the aircraft in this later revision of the livery).
Here's 9Y-TGJ in original delivery condition in 1981, where she also carried her original name "Flamingo":
If prefer their last colour scheme tbh! This first one was bland in comparison!
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NG 747 SP/200 Air Namibia( yellow)/Luxair/Air Mauritius/ Saudi Arabian (Green)/Aerolineas Argentinas/ SAA 80’s Orange tail, silver belly 200/ Lufthansa black nose/ Olympic 200
NG 744: United Battleship/ Delta/ Northwest red top/ Qantas 90s livery/ BA
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RAF x3/Eastern bare metal/LAM/ Faucett Peru
NG A340: Gulf Air( Gold/Blue))Surinam/Royal Jordanian/Air Namibia (Blue tail) LAN
NG 747 SP/200 Air Namibia( yellow)/Luxair/Air Mauritius/ Saudi Arabian (Green)/Aerolineas Argentinas/ SAA 80’s Orange tail, silver belly 200/ Lufthansa black nose/ Olympic 200
NG 744: United Battleship/ Delta/ Northwest red top/ Qantas 90s livery/ BA
Fair enough; each to their own! Hopefully we’ll that one released as well, keeping the fans of both eras happy 😉✈️👍
I'm with you. I prefer the classic cheatline livery, which I saw when visiting YYZ in the 1980's. But having both would be even better.
Jim
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I'm with you. I prefer the classic cheatline livery, which I saw when visiting YYZ in the 1980's. But having both would be even better.
Jim
Cannot beat the classic cheatline liveries But yes, hopefully NG will be able to keep both sides happy. There should always be something in this hobby for everyone.
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Models I want to see in 1/400:
Boeing 737-300 Condor (grey), Boeing 737-500 Air France, Boeing 747-200B SAA (white belly), Boeing 767-300ER LTU süd
I do. It's an excellent model. Here is a photo I took a few weeks ago:
An NG Tristar 500 LTU would certainly replace the rather toyish Gemini Jets reproduction.
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Models I want to see in 1/400:
Boeing 737-300 Condor (grey), Boeing 737-500 Air France, Boeing 747-200B SAA (white belly), Boeing 767-300ER LTU süd
I do. It's an excellent model. Here is a photo I took a few weeks ago:
An NG Tristar 500 LTU would certainly replace the rather toyish Gemini Jets reproduction.
‘Toyish’ is the best word to describe it. It was released almost exactly 19 years ago for the Modelling Fair (‘Intermodellbau’) in Dortmund, Germany, in 2001.
An NG Tristar 500 LTU would certainly replace the rather toyish Gemini Jets reproduction.
‘Toyish’ is the best word to describe it. It was released almost exactly 19 years ago for the Modelling Fair (‘Intermodellbau’) in Dortmund, Germany, in 2001.
I vote for a LTU -500 by NG too!
I have the Herpa version. It was the very first 1/400 model I ever bought, back in 2007, and have never looked back since. I’d welcome a new NG version, but the Herpa, although not perfect, is still a very lovely model. Gear is way too short, nose & tail not the most accurate, but the mould is seamless, fuselage shape very good, the printing is excellent and it has correct fairing & wings for a -500, with white horizontal stabs. Also, the #1 & #3 engines have the correct inward front-slant cowling profiles. Not bad for a 2005-era model. NG unfortunately got the H-stab colour wrong on their -100; they may well correct this for the dash 500 (if it was to be made), but the uniformity has been mucked up. Being pale grey makes it a subtle difference though I guess. I’d still hold onto the Herpa example, for historic and sentimental reasons.
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I have the Herpa version. It was the very first 1/400 model I ever bought, back in 2007, and have never looked back since. I’d welcome a new NG version, but the Herpa, although not perfect, is still a very lovely model. Gear is way too short, nose & tail not the most accurate, but the mould is seamless, fuselage shape very good, the printing is excellent and it has correct fairing & wings for a -500, with white horizontal stabs. Also, the #1 & #3 engines have the correct inward front-slant cowling profiles. Not bad for a 2005-era model. NG unfortunately got the H-stab colour wrong on their -200; they may well correct this for the dash 500 (if it was to be made), but the uniformity has been mucked up. Being pale grey makes it a subtle difference though I guess. I’d still hold onto the Herpa example, for historic and sentimental reasons.
After the first preview shots I told NG about the white H-stabs and they changed them from silver/dark grey to light grey. It isn't perfect but better still. I'd appeciate if they used the same light grey on the Tristar 500 out of uniformity reasons.
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Models I want to see in 1/400:
Boeing 737-300 Condor (grey), Boeing 737-500 Air France, Boeing 747-200B SAA (white belly), Boeing 767-300ER LTU süd
After the first preview shots I told NG about the white H-stabs and they changed them from silver/dark grey to light grey. It isn't perfect but better still. I'd appeciate if they used the same light grey on the Tristar 500 out of uniformity reasons.
Yes I remember discussing this back then. I agree, it would be better that they stick to the same pale grey so they at least match, giving uniformity amongst the NG examples.
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Not really. Either way it's a crap situation. I'd rather the H-stabs be white as they should be, but we're stuck with the pale grey on the -100. Either have them matching or have a corrected -500 which then doesn't match. Pale grey is a subtle difference as I already mentioned, but it's enough to upset complete uniformity. Hobson's choice.
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However, uniformity is a reasonable point here, as Ciderman and barison82 have pointed out already, and to be honest... I have seen much more obvious and hilarious faults on 1/400 scale models (for which collectors' understanding was asked) than either white or pale grey colour on horizontal stabs!
Count me in for the 'uniformity' group in respect of a future LTU -500.
Why not 'wiggle' those stabs off and either paint them yourselves or ask NG to supply a replacement set in the correct colour ? Then get the next release right ?
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Why not 'wiggle' those stabs off and either paint them yourselves or ask NG to supply a replacement set in the correct colour ? Then get the next release right ?
Why not 'wiggle' those stabs off and either paint them yourselves or ask NG to supply a replacement set in the correct colour ? Then get the next release right ?
Well, if glued properly, detaching the stabs would definitely cause damage to the paint around the holes. Painting myself would be as "original" as (or even less than) the original stabs painted in pale grey. So, both options do not convince me. Will remain hanging on as a 'uniformity group member'.
Well, if glued properly, detaching the stabs would definitely cause damage to the paint around the holes. Painting myself would be as "original" as (or even less than) the original stabs painted in pale grey. So, both options do not convince me. Will remain hanging on as a 'uniformity group member'.
So do I. Although I do build models myself I strongly recommend against removing H-stabs or wings from 1/400 diecast models. I fixed an Aeroclassics 727-200 (wrong colours on wings an H-stabs) among others and it requires extreme caution.
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Models I want to see in 1/400:
Boeing 737-300 Condor (grey), Boeing 737-500 Air France, Boeing 747-200B SAA (white belly), Boeing 767-300ER LTU süd
Why not 'wiggle' those stabs off and either paint them yourselves or ask NG to supply a replacement set in the correct colour ? Then get the next release right ?
Hmmm. I don't know about NG being able to supply parts like that? A DIY fix is always an option though of course. This is only a workable solution for those who are confident to do the fix themselves. I'd rather just leave the model be. Not sure how well those stabs are glued in there and I'm not in the mood for finding out!
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Admittedly I have never tried wiggling anything on an NG but on many many other models without problem. I would rather have the new mde correctly and live with the old one than having one more faulty...
Admittedly I have never tried wiggling anything on an NG but on many many other models without problem. I would rather have the new mde correctly and live with the old one than having one more faulty...
The thing is, the glue distribution on the stabs could also vary model to model; some might be easy to remove, others not so. I'm not going to attempt this myself, that's for sure. Maybe we should put it to a vote, white or pale grey I just wish that NG had gotten it right the first time around!
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How "well glued" our stabs, wings and everything are, has oft been the subject of debate. I suggest you test your stabs for "wiggle" before embarking upon such an endeavour. As for spare parts, NG need only produce some extras whilst producing the next LTU release and/or another Tristar model with white horizontals. Didn't they offer replacement RB-211-535C engine toolings for those early 757 Boeing prototype releases ?
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The thing is, the glue distribution on the stabs could also vary model to model; some might be easy to remove, others not so. I'm not going to attempt this myself, that's for sure. Maybe we should put it to a vote, white or pale grey I just wish that NG had gotten it right the first time around!
Of course some skilful application of modellers masking tape could work wonders here too.
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