I too appreciate what Aeroclassics has done for years to provide outstanding 1:400 models of classic airliners. I am surrounded by hundreds of them as I type. And I really enjoy posting photos of beautiful AC models after I receive them!
That said, there are legitimate complaints--models with colors and printing wrong, crooked printing, quality-control issues. Then we are hit with a whopping 20 percent price increase in January, and Waffle telling us to expect more increases. That's a lot to ask of collectors. I for one will gladly keep buying better Aeroclassics models. But I may be buying fewer of them in any event, because of the price increase.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Look Andrew, I massively appreciate what aeroclassics have done over the years with releasing alot of European airliners and making some models that other companies would never even consider. However I think that as the owner of aeroclassics, you need to stop being so aggressive and confrontational with complaints from customers. Obviously some people are going to be picky and nit pick on the tiniest issues but I think that some people are raising legitimate complaint such as printing errors and scratches and components that are not glued in. I also think that if people want to complain about models that theyve received new from aeroclassics, they should do so in a respectful and constructive manner and avoid being rude about it.
That's just it Will, they are not.
If you go back thru this thread, you will find all the complaints are about things which have nothing to do with this month's releases in the first place, or last month's either. It's just obnoxious behavior which I do not tolerate.
Thanks for your comments by the way!
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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I too appreciate what Aeroclassics has done for years to provide outstanding 1:400 models of classic airliners. I am surrounded by hundreds of them as I type. And I really enjoy posting photos of beautiful AC models after I receive them!
That said, there are legitimate complaints--models with colors and printing wrong, crooked printing, quality-control issues. Then we are hit with a whopping 20 percent price increase in January, and Waffle telling us to expect more increases. That's a lot to ask of collectors. I for one will gladly keep buying better Aeroclassics models. But I may be buying fewer of them in any event, because of the price increase.
Jim
Waffle is not the company spokesman.
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That's just it Will, they are not.
If you go back thru this thread, you will find all the complaints are about things which have nothing to do with this month's releases in the first place, or last month's either. It's just obnoxious behavior which I do not tolerate.
Thanks for your comments by the way!
Not a problem and that is true, there is a time and place to complain about things and if they haven't got anything to do with these releases then quite frankly i dont know why its being brought up on here.
Look Andrew, I massively appreciate what aeroclassics have done over the years with releasing alot of European airliners and making some models that other companies would never even consider. However I think that as the owner of aeroclassics, you need to stop being so aggressive and confrontational with complaints from customers. Obviously some people are going to be picky and nit pick on the tiniest issues but I think that some people are raising legitimate complaint such as printing errors and scratches and components that are not glued in. I also think that if people want to complain about models that theyve received new from aeroclassics, they should do so in a respectful and constructive manner and avoid being rude about it.
Nicely said!! I've bought so many AC models that are still in my collection and I'll never get I'd of them. I purely stated that my preferred manufacturer atm is NG and deservedly so! They deserve so much credit and yes they have f***d up with certain things ( and it's only natural to make mistakes like these but as long as they're rectified and to take constructive criticism and deal with it appropriately. In turn this will get them even more respect from the collectors. But I feel now you can't even say that before some abuse comes your way! It's pathetic really!
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Saudia was the largest B737-200 customer in the Middle East with 19 factory deliveries. They operated this aircraft from 1972 through 2007. For 35 years, the -200 was the only model they operated from the 737 family. So yeah, that says a lot from a historical standpoint for its release.
Interesting! Thanks for the further background information; I didn’t know this. They got decent mileage out of their fleet then! That’s a long period of service. The good old “guppy” 732’s were reliable workhorses, they remain my favourite out of all the subsequent variants produced. Definitely a much-needed release subject!
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What I find ironic is that whatever or whomever the manufacturer is that raises their price, everyone here blames them. Does anyone here think Andrew raised his prices just to piss you all off??? China is not the same China anymore and there is always a valid reason for said price increase.
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What I find ironic is that whatever or whomever the manufacturer is that raises their price, everyone here blames them. Does anyone here think Andrew raised his prices just to piss you all off??? China is not the same China anymore and there is always a valid reason for said price increase.
Russell, I don't think anyone here disputes the reason for raising prices. However in the eyes of the collectors, the quality of the product should justify that increase. If the prices rise and the quality is not as expected, sales will fall.
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China is not the same China anymore and there is always a valid reason for said price increase.
How far are we now from when the manufacturers will begin transferring production equipment from China to Country X?
Waffle hinted that prices may rise yet again. But, it could be a flawed assumption on our part that it's because manufacturers are raising prices. It could very well be due to upcoming tariffs being passed along to the ultimate customers - us collectors?
What are the chances that production equipment will migrate to the USA? I know of places in Ohio that got hit hard with auto manufacturing jobs disappearing that might welcome new jobs. Or is the U.S. minimum wage still too high, even factoring in tariffs?
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How far are we now from when the manufacturers will begin transferring production equipment from China to Country X?
Waffle hinted that prices may rise yet again. But, it could be a flawed assumption on our part that it's because manufacturers are raising prices. It could very well be due to upcoming tariffs being passed along to the ultimate customers - us collectors?
What are the chances that production equipment will migrate to the USA? I know of places in Ohio that got hit hard with auto manufacturing jobs disappearing that might welcome new jobs. Or is the U.S. minimum wage still too high, even factoring in tariffs?
Harvey
its not too far off..
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Interesting! Thanks for the further background information; I didn’t know this. They got decent mileage out of their fleet then! That’s a long period of service. The good old “guppy” 732’s were reliable workhorses, they remain my favourite out of all the subsequent variants produced. Definitely a much-needed release subject!
Totally agree with you about this classic workhorse and its remarkable service longevity with Saudia.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Russell, I don't think anyone here disputes the reason for raising prices. However in the eyes of the collectors, the quality of the product should justify that increase. If the prices rise and the quality is not as expected, sales will fall.
And what exactly is wrong with the quality of AeroClassics Adrian?? They models are more or less the same as they've always been. Yeah, every now and then a hiccup occurs, with us, with GJ, with JC, with Herpa, etc, but it's not the end of the bloody world. Go back and read some of the posts, including your own.
All I've seen in this thread is how sschitty the L-1011 mould is, because the PA/UA hybrid example was screwed up, but that's the exception, not all of them! We fixed the initial problems, as we also did with the 767s if any of you whiners would even bother to look!! With all the bellyaching, some may not realize that. Taking another complaint above, using a secondhand DC-10 purchase, which was made over 3 years ago, is another example of how bad AC is?? Spare me the BS and your loads of bollocks!! If the collector was that unpleased with what he bought, he should have returned it to where he bought it from. Seems nobody will miss an opportunity to twist the knife on this forum. Alot, not all, of you need to and get a life!
Our sales figures show most of the releases are sold out already, with some dealers looking for restocks, so again, this forum does not represent reality, or the facts on the ground. I guess it hasn't for many many years!
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And what exactly is wrong with the quality of AeroClassics Adrian?? They models are more or less the same as they've always been. Yeah, every now and then a hiccup occurs, with us, with GJ, with JC, with Herpa, etc, but it's not the end of the bloody world. Go back and read some of the posts, including your own.
All I've seen in this thread is how sschitty the L-1011 mould is, because the PA/UA hybrid example was screwed up, but that's the exception, not all of them! We fixed the initial problems, as we also did with the 767s if any of you whiners would even bother to look!! With all the bellyaching, some may not realize that. Taking another complaint above, using a secondhand DC-10 purchase, which was made over 3 years ago, is another example of how bad AC is?? Spare me the BS and your loads of bollocks!! If the collector was that unpleased with what he bought, he should have returned it to where he bought it from. Seems nobody will miss an opportunity to twist the knife on this forum. Alot, not all, of you need to and get a life!
Our sales figures show most of the releases are sold out already, with some dealers looking for restocks, so again, this forum does not represent reality, or the facts on the ground. I guess it hasn't for many many years!
Who’s the whining guy here? A lot of words against third party people is much of whining, mate.
Back on topic, I understand you fixed the most obvious inaccuracies and quality issues on the L-1011-500 mould, right? This surely includes the relocation of the totally false positioning of the nose landing gear, the re-design of the sloppy tail section and, finally, the guarantee that the paint job is accurately designed and printed on the models. In other words: the extinction of all the major flaws that mould offered to us recently. Then, I will be happy to see the forthcoming releases! Errors (registration on Kenya Airways 707) and quality issues (paint jobs on vertical fin) on most recent releases ain’t a good predictor, though, but...
And, please, simply stop insulting others just because obvious and actual flaws of AeroClassics models are being addressed. It’s a pity you cannot deal with it in a more professional way although most of what I have read was addressed in a quite reasonable and ‘factual’ manner. Thanks.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Who’s the whining guy here? A lot of words against third party people is much of whining, mate.
Back on topic, I understand you fixed the most obvious inaccuracies and quality issues on the L-1011-500 mould, right? This surely includes the relocation of the totally false positioning of the nose landing gear, the re-design of the sloppy tail section and, finally, the guarantee that the paint job is accurately designed and printed on the models. In other words: the extinction of all the major flaws that mould offered to us recently. Then, I will be happy to see the forthcoming releases! Errors (registration on Kenya Airways 707) and quality issues (paint jobs on vertical fin) on most recent releases ain’t a good predictor, though, but...
And, please, simply stop insulting others just because obvious and actual flaws of AeroClassics models are being addressed. It’s a pity you cannot deal with it in a more professional way although most of what I have read was addressed in a quite reasonable and ‘factual’ manner. Thanks.
After the loads of bollocks I've been fed over years from some of you tossers, I've been more than patient and professional in my replies, and compared to what I'm capable of, quite restrained too.
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After the loads of bollocks I've been fed over years from some of you tossers, I've been more than patient and professional in my replies, and compared to what I'm capable of, quite restrained too.
Strange interpretation - or shall I say ‘reflection’ - of your own behavior... but... from my side there’s nothing left to say. I’ll concentrate on topic and upcoming releases - but be prepared: criticism may occur in case of persisting inaccuracies and quality issues.
And what exactly is wrong with the quality of AeroClassics Adrian?? They models are more or less the same as they've always been. Yeah, every now and then a hiccup occurs, with us, with GJ, with JC, with Herpa, etc, but it's not the end of the bloody world. Go back and read some of the posts, including your own.
All I've seen in this thread is how sschitty the L-1011 mould is, because the PA/UA hybrid example was screwed up, but that's the exception, not all of them! We fixed the initial problems, as we also did with the 767s if any of you whiners would even bother to look!! With all the bellyaching, some may not realize that. Taking another complaint above, using a secondhand DC-10 purchase, which was made over 3 years ago, is another example of how bad AC is?? Spare me the BS and your loads of bollocks!! If the collector was that unpleased with what he bought, he should have returned it to where he bought it from. Seems nobody will miss an opportunity to twist the knife on this forum. Alot, not all, of you need to and get a life!
Our sales figures show most of the releases are sold out already, with some dealers looking for restocks, so again, this forum does not represent reality, or the facts on the ground. I guess it hasn't for many many years!
They were all bought new from a store. Feel free to pay me the difference for the restocking and shipping fees for sending them back to the store. Until then, I'm unlikely to spend money on an AeroClassics product.
The quality control issues on the Aeroclassics 737 MAX releases and other recent models do not reflect a company that takes quality control seriously. If AeroClassics wants a reputation of being bottom of the barrel that is their choice. The fact that anyone can defend and take pride in the crap posted above is astonishing.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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They were all bought new from a store. Feel free to pay me the difference for the restocking and shipping fees for sending them back to the store. Until then, I'm unlikely to spend money on an AeroClassics product.
The quality control issues on the Aeroclassics 737 MAX releases and other recent models do not reflect a company that takes quality control seriously. If AeroClassics wants a reputation of being bottom of the barrel that is their choice. The fact that anyone can defend and take pride in the crap posted above is astonishing.
Why would you be charged those fees for returning defective items? I can understand being charged for "buyer's remorse", but not for this. What exactly are they restocking? Don't blame the manufacturer for the actions of an unscrupulous dealer!! Perhaps it's high time for us to find a better way for the customer to have a more satisfying purchasing experience?
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Best place to buy aero classics in the UK? Thanks.
ARD- Aviation Retail Direct
Located in Hillingdon near a very greasy fish n chips joint. Great Shop, lots of models on display and for sale. Nice blokes working there too!!
A much better experience than dealing with a boot tradesman from the back of their garage! Let's not forget Nasty Nige either!!
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Why would you be charged those fees for returning defective items? I can understand being charged for "buyer's remorse", but not for this. What exactly are they restocking? Don't blame the manufacturer for the actions of an unscrupulous dealer!! Perhaps it's high time for us to find a better way for the customer to have a more satisfying purchasing experience?
I don't know of a single store that stocks AeroClassics that has a free return policy even for defects. Unless they can partner with Amazon or Walmart I don't see any place that would offer free returns that would stock such an item. If I could buy AeroClassics with a 100% free return guarantee I'd be more likely to buy one in the future again.
I don't know of a single store that stocks AeroClassics that has a free return policy even for defects. Unless they can partner with Amazon or Walmart I don't see any place that would offer free returns that would stock such an item. If I could buy AeroClassics with a 100% free return guarantee I'd be more likely to buy one in the future again.
Agreed, I personally am reluctant to buy from most apart from NG due to quality issues.
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Agreed, I personally am reluctant to buy from most apart from NG due to quality issues.
Eventually you'll eat those words; nobody is perfect!
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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I don't know of a single store that stocks AeroClassics that has a free return policy even for defects. Unless they can partner with Amazon or Walmart I don't see any place that would offer free returns that would stock such an item. If I could buy AeroClassics with a 100% free return guarantee I'd be more likely to buy one in the future again.
I am working to make that wish come true for you, and others. There should and will be an avenue not to penalize the customer for defective models, however, buyer's remorse or some other off the wall excuse may still be excluded. Fair to be fair. Please stay tuned!
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Hmmm in the late 70's early 80's a corvette was $6 to $8K. Improvements made and price is currently close to if not over $60K for base model and ya know what since the 70's and 80's models they have all had their issues and will continue to despite the price increase! Nothing stays the same (except below) and you can't always get what you want (but sometimes you get what you need). Don't like what you bought return it. Had a bad experience in the past with a certain mfg. then go elsewhere. Mfg. you had a problem with in the past and their product...they later put something out in the future you like, buy it!
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Yeah as long as they receive enough product. Yet another pre-order of mine unfulfilled because "apparently" they never got any...
Which one was that Al?? I will check for you.
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My acquisitions from January's batch, plus the Tanzanian 767 from last year got on the cheap at Waffle.
I'm quite happy with all four. Shame that the Kenyan rego is wrong but you'd have to be really watching to notice. It also has a slightly bent nosegear, but otherwise a decent trio.
This thread has rather gone down the toilet a bit. I sympathise with both sides to be honest. I would like less errors but I also want AC to continue doing what they do.
Corona Virus...it is all because of Corona Virus! Your taco ain't crunchy, Corona Virus! Your Five Guys fries cold and taste like ink...Corona Virus. Your printing on your toy (plane not your manhood) crocked...guess what? Corona Virus! Your toy price went up...yep you got it Corona Virus!
Hmmm in the late 70's early 80's a corvette was $6 to $8K. Improvements made and price is currently close to if not over $60K for base model and ya know what since the 70's and 80's models they have all had their issues and will continue to despite the price increase! Nothing stays the same (except below) and you can't always get what you want (but sometimes you get what you need). Don't like what you bought return it. Had a bad experience in the past with a certain mfg. then go elsewhere. Mfg. you had a problem with in the past and their product...they later put something out in the future you like, buy
One thing that has remained, is the 1:400 drama! Happy collecting!
Funny post!! Funny guy!! Lol!!
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NG 744: United Battleship/ Delta/ Northwest red top/ Qantas 90s livery/ BA
My acquisitions from January's batch, plus the Tanzanian 767 from last year got on the cheap at Waffle.
I'm quite happy with all four. Shame that the Kenyan rego is wrong but you'd have to be really watching to notice. It also has a slightly bent nosegear, but otherwise a decent trio.
This thread has rather gone down the toilet a bit. I sympathise with both sides to be honest. I would like less errors but I also want AC to continue doing what they do.
I agree fully with Mr Stretton here!! Dark Lord (AK) we love you really!! Even though you're sometimes a bear with a sore head!! Lol! We definitely don't despise your product,otherwise most of us wouldn't have collected lots've your models!! As I've said before,I have many AC models that I cherish and have had in my collection for years and I will never depart with them!
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NG 747 SP/200 Air Namibia( yellow)/Luxair/Air Mauritius/ Saudi Arabian (Green)/Aerolineas Argentinas/ SAA 80’s Orange tail, silver belly 200/ Lufthansa black nose/ Olympic 200
NG 744: United Battleship/ Delta/ Northwest red top/ Qantas 90s livery/ BA
Read post #25 from the Gemini thread Al, they do have some. His wife runs ebay store Bundys-boutique and there have been several Dan Air HS748s listed over the past few weeks. I would question ARD again (unless of course he doesn’t speak to the missus)
Read post #25 from the Gemini thread Al, they do have some. His wife runs ebay store Bundys-boutique and there have been several Dan Air HS748s listed over the past few weeks. I would question ARD again (unless of course he doesn’t speak to the missus)
Well they sell for more on Bundy's seeing as my ARD club discount doesn't apply there. Not the first time I've been fed mushrooms it's fair to say. This was a pre-order too, not a sudden late purchase.
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Well they sell for more on Bundy's seeing as my ARD club discount doesn't apply there......
It's still there at 1255GMT Al. Also "Best Offer" is available which I always use in lieu of the club discount.
I pre-ordered a model (not AeroClassics) last year which didn't 'arrive'. When I saw it on their eBay site, I phoned them to ask what's going on and, lo and behold , they found me one.
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Last months Dan Air 748.
They have reordered and were sent an additional 24 pcs. Please check with them again.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Originally Posted by Garry77
Their Tristars however are crap though! NG Rules there i'm afraid and make there look a joke with their banana shaped fuselage???
Moronic posts such as this do earn you a Bozo award. I have compared the 2 moulds in detail, and in all honesty, your statement is not accurate.
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Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!!
Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!!
Just say NO to Apollo400/Black Box/NG(No Good)/Panda Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/Witty400/Magic/AV200/AK200/Flightline/Flightline200/Flightline400/Pegasus/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)
This thread has rather gone down the toilet a bit. I sympathise with both sides to be honest. I would like less errors but I also want AC to continue doing what they do.
I think these threads are always going down the toilet from a certain point since AeroClassics wants to go them down that way... it'd be more complex and difficult to enter a serious discussion about all those obvious faults of their products.
By the way, what's those 'markings' at the front edge of the Frontier 727's left horizontal stabilizer? Paint chips? Colour dots?
I agree fully with Mr Stretton here!! Dark Lord (AK) we love you really!! Even though you're sometimes a bear with a sore head!! Lol! We definitely don't despise your product,otherwise most of us wouldn't have collected lots've your models!! As I've said before,I have many AC models that I cherish and have had in my collection for years and I will never depart with them!
I am not really with you and Rich. AeroClassics started as a low quantity, simple production business with very exotic releases. They improved over the years and delivered a very nice choice of still rather uncommon (compared to the mainstream trademarks) airplane/airline releases in really good quality and accuracy. Nonetheless, their quality standard has gone down remarkably, and this is an obvious problem - Mr. Klein may go up the wall or not - this does not improve the overall quality of the models delivered. There's much more to do in order to regain my interest. But, hey, in the end I am just a less important 'Moron' with his 'unjustified criticism' which is 'nothing else but fake news'. Oh no, wait... then again... we all can see AeroClassics' models and their quality issues... it's easier to wipe global climate change away, I guess.
I am not really with you and Rich. AeroClassics started as a low quantity, simple production business with very exotic releases. They improved over the years and delivered a very nice choice of still rather uncommon (compared to the mainstream trademarks) airplane/airline releases in really good quality and accuracy. Nonetheless, their quality standard has gone down remarkably, and this is an obvious problem - Mr. Klein may go up the wall or not - this does not improve the overall quality of the models delivered. There's much more to do in order to regain my interest. But, hey, in the end I am just a less important 'Moron' with his 'unjustified criticism' which is 'nothing else but fake news'. Oh no, wait... then again... we all can see AeroClassics' models and their quality issues... it's easier to wipe global climate change away, I guess.
That's why I said its models I have from previous earlier releases!
Some go back a good few years now!
__________________ NG L1011's: BWIA(Teal/ yellow livery)/
RAF x3/Eastern bare metal/LAM/ Faucett Peru
NG A340: Gulf Air( Gold/Blue))Surinam/Royal Jordanian/Air Namibia (Blue tail) LAN
NG 747 SP/200 Air Namibia( yellow)/Luxair/Air Mauritius/ Saudi Arabian (Green)/Aerolineas Argentinas/ SAA 80’s Orange tail, silver belly 200/ Lufthansa black nose/ Olympic 200
NG 744: United Battleship/ Delta/ Northwest red top/ Qantas 90s livery/ BA
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
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Originally Posted by Madridista
By the way, what's those 'markings' at the front edge of the Frontier 727's left horizontal stabilizer? Paint chips? Colour dots?
Flash distortion from the camera? Dust? Get an F'ing life already!!
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Enjoying aviation from a "TSA-free Zone"!!
Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!!
Just say NO to Apollo400/Black Box/NG(No Good)/Panda Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/Witty400/Magic/AV200/AK200/Flightline/Flightline200/Flightline400/Pegasus/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)
Flash distortion from the camera? Dust? Get an F'ing life already!!
I prefer to wait patiently for the answer of the collector who owns this model instead of listening to the mediocre blandish of yours. Sorry for you - and us - that AeroClassics have turned into a range of models of questionable quality. And, again, your simple words won’t help improving; it requires serious action. Good luck - I mean, in case you are about to do something.
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Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
Thanks for your well wishes; if they were sincere, they are very much appreciated!!
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Take the money-grab & deceit out of our hobby, and bring back ethics and quality!!
Just say NO to Apollo400/Black Box/NG(No Good)/Panda Models/Junk-X/First Choice/C&C/IF400/Witty400/Magic/AV200/AK200/Flightline/Flightline200/Flightline400/Pegasus/Blue Angle/5stars & any BigBirds (real or fake)
Thanks for your well wishes; if they were sincere, they are very much appreciated!!
My final answer to this: they are sincere - I wish your assertions were too. The discussion over the AeroClassics‘ TriStar 500 revealed a different picture though. Nonetheless, I’m pretty sure you are aware of the mould‘s deficiencies and I smell there won’t be too many releases anymore. It would be for good and you know it. Same goes for the TriStar 1 mould due to its inferiority to the competition.
I’d appreciate if you‘d concentrate on what is or was AeroClassics‘ trademark. Long way to go, we all know, but it should be worth it.
Moronic posts such as this do earn you a Bozo award. I have compared the 2 moulds in detail, and in all honesty, your statement is not accurate.
I would just like to say where have my replies too this and the other trolling replies,responses gone! You keep this fool statement up ,yet delete mine!
My response was accurate and fair.I was defending Madridista in what he was saying!
What I find ironic is that whatever or whomever the manufacturer is that raises their price, everyone here blames them. Does anyone here think Andrew raised his prices just to piss you all off??? China is not the same China anymore and there is always a valid reason for said price increase.
I do however feel retailers do mess around with the RRP? You notice some liveries cost alot more than others due to favouritism and demand!
Take AV400 A350's! Why was the Virgin like a full £10 more before P&P with most retailers that could get hold of them? £10 more than the more eventful livery of Etihad that i also got lastweek and may i say what alovely shade of gold they have chosen!
There is for certain a non-constant flat rate going on! Thats for sure! Liveries that are popular cost more than even the more tricky or complex sometimes as retaliers seek to maximise the most they can get out of the consumer it seems to me!
And what exactly is wrong with the quality of AeroClassics Adrian?? They models are more or less the same as they've always been.
Who mentioned Aeroclassics? If the cap fits, wear it!
You know very well that the quality has NOT lately been the same as it always has been. You have admitted the factory is run by kids and not the dedicated staff you used to have. Hence all the pad printing errors.
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
A lot of words against third party people is much of whining, mate. 
Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
Re: Aeroclassics janauary 2020 releases
I do however feel retailers do mess around with the RRP? You notice some liveries cost alot more than others due to favouritism and demand!
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