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Old 12-04-2019, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mata Hari's has reported Aeroclassics December hints in the other forum:

Lot's of "N" and not necessarily American subjects though!! On the other hand, not trying to make it easy either

D- , EP- , G- , P4- , VH- , VP- , VT- , and alot of the aforementioned N's!!


Note: the G- release is by no means a holiday greeting to Adrian, however there are 2 collectors who will be having a VERY Merry Christmas when they see this month's releases. JJ & Big Man, this will be your month!!
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Any further clues/updates? Surprised there has been no replies at all....
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They're some classic frames making a comeback....
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Still waiting for some new AC KLM 747-200, -300, there are many registrations not made yet 😛
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Aeroclassics lost access to the 747 mould a very long time ago. A person can only dream of a new 747 1:400 mould that isn’t a SP )-:
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Any further clues/updates? Surprised there has been no replies at all....
I think most don't bother, as there's not really a point when the only clues are registration prefix. "Lots of N's" could mean anything from DC3 to DC10, on any livery, and everything in between.

The NG hints usually give a slightly better hint of what to actually expect, as well as the hints being released only a few days before the actual releases are announced. The AC 'hints' often come weeks before the actual announcement, and there's little point in trying to guess.

But, in fairness, the AC models are available immediately after their announcement, whereas the NG models aren't available until weeks later.
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Still waiting for some new AC KLM 747-200, -300, there are many registrations not made yet 😛
It'll be a long wait.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That's too bad 😞, guess I'll have to rely on Bigbird to make some more...

But why actually? Can't imagine that a manufacturer which makes primarily classic models lose access to a 747 mould...
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Mark22--this is a long-discussed situation. You may want to do a search.

There's a "BigBird Mark 3" that has dribbled out a few 747 models. But they're not quite up to old BB and AC quality. See Rich Stretton's review of BB3's recent KLM delivery-livery 747-200 model. One annoyance is the fat Gemini-style aerials!

https://modelairliner.com/klm-747-206b/

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That's true, I should have done some research before asking. Sorry!
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True about just the regs being not much of a clue. I suppose it wont be to long before we get the announcement. Without turning this into a wishlist, I could be tempted by what I term as classics now so Laker/BCCal DC10's would be high on my list along with a Laker A300.


I agree that the NG hints give more clues and it surely cant be long before the next batch of NG's are known. There is already a "hint" on their facebook page as they re asking for help with an historic Qantas logo so presume the 100 years B787 is on its way sooner rather than later...
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looking forward to the VT-. Maybe an Indigo or Go Air A320?
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The VT will be a classic. Stay tuned.
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The VT will be a classic. Stay tuned.
Indian Airlines Caravelle would be great!
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The VT will be a classic. Stay tuned.
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the vt will be a classic. Stay tuned.
can't wait!!!
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Indian Airlines Caravelle would be great!
It will be a great Christmas if that one comes through!!
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Quiet day, I'll throw in some thoughts.

D- a Condor DC-10, in the bare-metal or gray colors.

N- Republic MTM DC-9 or 727-200, United DC-10 in blue-star / blue titles livery, Eastern 727-200 in thin-cheatline bare-metal livery.

G- How about a Laker Skytrain DC-10?

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I just saw a Trans America DC-10, but nothing else. I suppose we will know in the next hours.
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Announced at Waffle:

Aeroclassics 1:400

Transamerica Airlines DC-10-30 N103TV - $40.95
Trans International Airlines DC-10-30 N101TV - $40.95
Air Aruba DC-9-30 P4-MDD - $37.95
Indian Airlines A300B2/B4 VT-EHD - $40.95
Avianca Colombia A320-200 N284AV - $37.95
Southwest Airlines B 737-200 N21SW - $37.95
Air BVI 748 VP-LVO - $36.95
Dan Air 748 G-AZSU - $36.95
Ansett Transport Industries B 707-300 VH-HTC - $40.95
Iran Air B 707-300 EP-IRL - $40.95

A variety of good stuff for different collectors. Transamerica, Southwest, and Air Aruba are sure for me.

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INDIAN AIRLINES A300!!!! Have waited for that one since a while, A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS INDEED!! THX AC!!
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Announced at Waffle:

Aeroclassics 1:400

Transamerica Airlines DC-10-30 N103TV - $40.95
Trans International Airlines DC-10-30 N101TV - $40.95
Air Aruba DC-9-30 P4-MDD - $37.95
Indian Airlines A300B2/B4 VT-EHD - $40.95
Avianca Colombia A320-200 N284AV - $37.95
Southwest Airlines B 737-200 N21SW - $37.95
Air BVI 748 VP-LVO - $36.95
Dan Air 748 G-AZSU - $36.95
Ansett Transport Industries B 707-300 VH-HTC - $40.95
Iran Air B 707-300 EP-IRL - $40.95

A variety of good stuff for different collectors. Transamerica, Southwest, and Air Aruba are sure for me.

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A fine bunch of releases this month, especially the Air BVI and Air Aruba. They will make great additions to my collection, as will the DAN-Air, Southwest and AVIANCA releases. Placed my order already. Thanks again Andrew!
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YABBA,DABBA,DOO!!! Loving the DC-10's.
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There's also a German Cargo 707-330C D-ABUE that Waffle isn't showing for some reason. Eztoys has it.

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Always room for more 748s!
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Northing for me this month... Fortunately , given the many second hand models I've been purchasing since last month. Air Aruba looks beautiful but not very suitable for my collecting criteria.
Could the return of the 707 mould mean that someday I could have a Pluna example?
Still waiting for Aeromexico delivery colors 767-200 and more Mexicana early 90s tails.
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He didn't order any. He was sure it would not sell at all. I hope he is proven wrong!!
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He didn't order any. He was sure it would not sell at all. I hope he is proven wrong!!
As I said Andrew, those DC-10's are sweet. You nailed the colours. Well done.
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I love the German Air Cargo! Also got the Iran Air 707,, Air Aruba and Trans America DC10! Thank you Andrew!! I'll crack open the Auselse for these releases too!
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Great selection! Air Aruba, Southwest, and Avianca for me. The DC-10's are nice too but I'm trying to tighten my criteria up a bit. (Biting my nails...)
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Those DC-10s are a special Christmas surprise for an old collector, and former DACer, John Johnson. I sincerely hope he enjoys his holy grails finally seeing the light of day!!

The TNT 707 should make a certain "big man" happy downunder, and the Dan Air London HS-748s are for all those, except Adrian, who may enjoy having it. Just kidding!
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Those DC-10s are a special Christmas surprise for an old collector, and former DACer, John Johnson. I sincerely hope he enjoys his holy grails finally seeing the light of day!!

The TNT 707 should make a certain "big man" happy downunder, and the Dan Air London HS-748s are for all those, except Adrian, who may enjoy having it. Just kidding!
Merry Christmas Adrian, and all the rest of you too!!
Hi Andrew. Awesome releases, can we expect more Canadian origin airlines on the 732, DC10 moulds? I know you’re not aiming for re-releases but was stuff like Air Canada Tango or Air Canada Jetz ever done in 1/400?
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What a lovely bunch of releases for December, to get us in the Christmas spirit. Transamerica DC-10 & Dan Air HS-748 are definite additions for me, thank you. John Johnson was a real character, from reading his posts in the vintage threads.
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Flew more than once from Caracas to Aruba on their DC 9's back in the day! Great release.
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A great Xmas present!

Great set of releases!
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I'll buy the German Cargo 707-330C D-ABUE - great, thank You :-) !

I would also buy a second or third one with appropriate another registration.

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So are we all just ignoring the now all too common crooked printing on the tails? This was not a widespread issue until recently.

ATA 757, AWE 757, BNF 737, UAL 757, all recent ones I would have very much liked to have purchased but just cannot get past the glaring flaw.

Now this month TIA, Indian, Avianca. Maybe doesn't show as obvious on euro white billboard liveries but completely ruins otherwise great models and classic liveries with cheatlines.

Frustrating thing is some are printed straight as an arrow (Air Aruba) yet others fall through the cracks even on the same molds.
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He didn't order any. He was sure it would not sell at all. I hope he is proven wrong!!
I don't like his attitude. Thanks, Andrew for making this one, I've contacted ACB to place my order.
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and the Dan Air London HS-748s are for all those, except Adrian, who may enjoy having it. Just kidding!
Merry Christmas Adrian, and all the rest of you too!!
Thanks Andrew and a Merry Christmas to you. Please can we have more HS748s and a Queens Flight Andover? Would like to see a 748 in these earlier Dan-Air colours?
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Air Zimbabwe (rainbow scheme), Air Niugini.

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Surinam Airways, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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I've ordered these:

B707-320F TNT VH-HTC
B707-330F German Cargo D-ABUE
DC-9-30 Air Aruba P4-MDD
DC-10-30 TIA N101TV
HS-748 Dan Air G-AZSU

A lovely selection this month. Thanks Andrew.
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Old 12-15-2019, 04:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Nice selection of models Andrew..... will hope to get the Dan-Air HS748 and Iran 707
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So are we all just ignoring the now all too common crooked printing on the tails? This was not a widespread issue until recently.

ATA 757, AWE 757, BNF 737, UAL 757, all recent ones I would have very much liked to have purchased but just cannot get past the glaring flaw.

Now this month TIA, Indian, Avianca. Maybe doesn't show as obvious on euro white billboard liveries but completely ruins otherwise great models and classic liveries with cheatlines.

Frustrating thing is some are printed straight as an arrow (Air Aruba) yet others fall through the cracks even on the same molds.
...not to mention the window cheatlines printed way too high on the Indian Airlines A300, Iran Air 707 and German Cargo 707, distorting the cockpit windows. Why is this error repeated time and time again?
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If I understand correctly it's been 20 years along now. These things shouldn't be happening on a regular basis.

I admit I'm not familiar with the printing process and I get it it's China. It's a QC issue but why? Operator error, a jig or machine that needs to be calibrated properly? Limited to molds with separate tails?

I've noticed this tail issue crop up on Aeroclassics recently and have reluctantly passed on 5-6 models in the past few months. That said I'm still getting the SW 737 and Air BVI because they look great and possibly the German Cargo if I can find it. The others aren't in my personal collecting criteria but it doesn't mean I still don't notice on a livery with a cheatline and tail logo.

It's not just limited to one manufacturer as I passed on the Gemini UA 737 this month due to printing. Just trying to help get it sorted out as I'm willing to throw my money at any manufacturer who can make a decent replica of a particular subject.
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It is a frustrating printing error which has become common of late; both my US Air DC-9's have crooked tail logo's too. In the case of printing the "TIA" & "DC-10" motifs on N101TV delivery c/s, they've aligned these to follow the downward slope of the #2 intake nacelle, which is incorrect. Either the artwork depicted this, or it was an incorrect interpretation by the workers. Perhaps my laser level will help The later Transamerica variant, N103TV, appears to be ok, although the example shown in the Waffle/DiMA database photo appears to have lost it's little silver plastic insert for the #2 intake cowling!
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Why anyone would take a photo of a model missing a part, when they can just choose another one, is completely beyond comprehension!! Those macro photos do not do the models any justice either, as they distort.

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That said I'm still getting the SW 737 and Air BVI because they look great and possibly the German Cargo if I can find it.

Andy, there's more than one dealer in the AC network. Because one did not wish to carry the model shouldn't mean they'll be difficult to find!! Try one of the more reputable dealers such as Jet Collector.
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I will be getting both the TIA & Transamerica DC-10's regardless, as they are unlikely to be made by anyone else, on such a good mould. Cannot resist a 70's/80's era DC-10, and love the painted wingtips on the Transamerica livery. Would be awesome to get a Trans International livery variant with the "T" logo too; probably asking for too much though!
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...the TIA & Transamerica DC-10's ... as they are unlikely to be made by anyone else, on such a good mould. Cannot resist a 70's/80's era DC-10
This ^^^^ X1000. But the crooked TIA tail ruins it for me even though it's on the gold standard DC-10 mold and a unique example no one else will most likely make at least in my lifetime.

I've learned that a good printing job can mask issues on a substandard mold but even the best of molds can be subverted by a poor printing job.

As someone who takes many macro pics for eBay actions I understand Andrew's point that the camera picks up things the eye cannot discern but this isn't that. I hope AC can track down the source of the inconsistent tail printing and address it going forward on their exceptional molds so I can go back to the days of preordering my personally desirable models sight unseen before they might sell out. Take my money, please!
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This ^^^^ X1000. But the crooked TIA tail ruins it for me even though it's on the gold standard DC-10 mold and a unique example no one else will most likely make at least in my lifetime.

I've learned that a good printing job can mask issues on a substandard mold but even the best of molds can be subverted by a poor printing job.

As someone who takes many macro pics for eBay actions I understand Andrew's point that the camera picks up things the eye cannot discern but this isn't that. I hope AC can track down the source of the inconsistent tail printing and address it going forward on their exceptional molds so I can go back to the days of preordering my personally desirable models sight unseen before they might sell out. Take my money, please!
Totally get where you’re coming from and such a pity that you’ll have to miss out on the TIA. The correct execution of the print job makes all the difference, and we’re at the mercy of the individual that does the work; a highly skilled task for sure. I guess that’s the ‘hand-made’ element of our hobby!

There are other more recent innovative methods of printing out there as opposed to the traditional tampo printing process; “Digital Transfer Decoration” which allows the application of digital data onto a diverse range of moulded pieces. Lots of applications with this and highly versatile. Complex images can be printed; “Digitran”, a system from Germany, is a unique combination of digital printing and heat transfer decoration. The machines employed in this process are either fully or semi-automatic, and are highly accurate. Not sure if this or a similar system is already being employed by any of the manufacturers producing for the die-cast aircraft fraternity.
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Love the Southwest release... has there ever been a 1:400 of this title placement before now?
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Love the Southwest release... has there ever been a 1:400 of this title placement before now?
No. There has been an Inflight 200, which I stupidly sold a few years ago. (anyone have one they want to part with?) But not 400 scale to my knowledge.
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