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Old 10-31-2019, 01:17 PM   #1
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So I have come up with a new strategy for collecting. I have collected 1:200 models since I started and there are some that are impossible to find. Delta 757 widget, American 757 polished, Saul Bass United etc.

So I am going to supplement my 1:200 scale with 1:400 that I can locate and then if I can get the 1:200 at some point I sell the 1:400 (maybe) that way there is no duplication.

What really pushed me over the edge on this is the outstanding detail on the NG models.

Anyone else here do 2 scales?
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I have tried many strategies, but to me it all boils down to one, that is how much you have in the wallet.
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Don't want to be Douggie Downer, but after a few and absolutely superb acquisitions of New Generation Models, I have ended up in a position exactly the opposite of where I expected to be. I have earlier releases of about all the models I had hoped to collect, and it seems that about every model I own will be superseded by a newer and better (and more expensive) release. That means selling my models at a loss (if I can sell them at all), and increasing expenses as I attempt to improve the overall quality of my collection. Whoa! what's with that? Can't do it. Hold fast with what I got. I may be one of the oldest members of the group, and as they say about retirees, I'm on a fixed income, whatever that means (was it broken when I was out there in the workforce?). Anyway, my investment at this point hovers around $10K, and that's enough, thank you very much. Love my collection and my DA.C buds, and holding what I got. Doug

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The bulk of my collection is 1:400, and I initially wanted one of every type in 1:200 as well, but I've had to restrict that to planes I've actually flown in order to save room. I even have a few 1:500 for subjects that don't exist in 1:400, like An-22's and Tu-204's.
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I like your thinking! For the last couple of years, I was a big 200 scale collector. The detailing and quality was unmatched in comparison 400 scale, but the two obvious caveats to 200 vs 400 is size and price. I was beginning to have way too many boxes stored and when putting away 200 scale boxes vs 400 scale, I noticed quickly that I was running out of room. 400 scale had been uninteresting to me for the longest time because I felt we were seeing much of the same on subpar moulds, month after month.

Aeroclassics as a whole was one of the brands I liked, with some Gemini models as well. But then things began to change once NG arrived on the scene. Their arrival had a domino effect for the other manufacturers. I was scrolling through through some forum pictures and began to wonder if certain JC models I liked were 200 or 400. I was amazed that 400 scale began to have that 200 feel, with the addition of antennas, wifi domes, more detailed engines, etc. JC Wings new 777 and 787s are the two that I can say got me interested in 400 scale again, and when NG came out with their 757 mould, I was pretty much dedicated to 400 scale again.

I don't purchase many 200s anymore unless its an airline or a mould that I really like, but I do collect both scales. I used to be "one or the other" but then I realized at the end of the day, If I like it and can afford it, then I will get it. Really that simple! I also collect F1 models and the two scales for that hobby are 1/43 and 1/18. Vastly different sizes, but each scale has pros and cons. So instead of limiting myself to one, I do both when/if I can.
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I started with 1/400 but switched to 1/200 several years ago. I do like your plan, but for me, I think I will try to stick with one scale, mainly because I like to size compare different planes (i.e 747 vrs 707).
PS....I also have a fair collection of 1/72 and 1/48's but the bulk is now 1/200 scale.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:01 PM   #7
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1/200 scale is too expensive and takes up too much space. Been strictly 1/400 scale....UNTIL.... NG released great looking CRJ-200s in 1/200 scale. Unfortunately, 1/400 scale CRJ-200s just don't look great and NG has released a good number of nice looking N-reg CRJs that I couldn't resist and now have a handful of 1/200 scale models. 1/200 scale CRJs don't take up too much space either.

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Old 10-31-2019, 06:32 PM   #8
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I used to collect different scales, but I can't see the detail as well as I used to be able to on 1:400 scale. I had been collecting 1:400 mainly up to this point (a couple years ago) with a few 1:200 flown on. I then started collecting mainly 1:200 and started selling most of my 1:400, but adding a few updated/improved 1:400s. I then finally realized I needed to get rid of all 1:400's and only have about 75 of those left.

For some it is a combination of one or many factors; ie, money, space, ability to see, planes not available in certain scales, flew on/didn't fly on, airline, air frame, registration, etc.

I am just glad I moved most of my 1:400s before the newer improved moulds hit the market to get some of my money back.

I am also moving a few 1:200s I bought and enjoyed that really don't fit with my collection and replacing a few of these with new releases in US Carriers by some MFGs (mainly collect: American, Delta, Eastern, Pan Am, TWA, United and flown on).

If I was still collecting 1:400 I would probably update some, but like Doug, keep most of the older releases. Sometimes one just needs to realize their limits or the fun can evaporate very quickly from the hobby and become a burden!

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I used to ONLY collect 747-400 in 1:400, and would buy my most favourite planes in 1:200 which didn't hold the 747-400 restriction. Since I've started collecting literally anything in 1:400 (after wanting all the 747-400 1:400 I wanted), my 1:200 collecting days are mostly over unless something catches my eye like the Inflight200 Air Canada 747-400, etc.
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I have around 400 x 1:400 models, but do also have a limited collection of around 35 x 1:200. 1:400 will remain my focus though, due to both space and cost.
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:31 AM   #11
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It's a good idea, but I do it more in a tactical way in addition to my strategy. I usually collect 1/400 and add(ed) some 1/200 or 1/500 or other scale.

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Old 11-01-2019, 10:06 AM   #12
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I've bounced back and forth between both scales. For me, the ultimate criteria is mould and printing accuracy. I've found that in most cases, with the exception of antenna's, there really is no more detail on a 1/200 model than a 1/400 model. I would even argue that several recent 1/400 releases have more detail than your average 1/200 model. I tried to stick to 1/400, but now have a mixed bag of 200's/400's/and resin display models.

The downside of 1/200 scale is weight. I may get roasted for this, but I truly wish the plastic 1/200 scale models, a la Herpa Premium and StarJets 200, would have caught on. Plastic is lighter, provides a media to include greater detail, is cheaper, and is easier to customize for those of us who like to do so.

To this day I believe the best 1/200 model made is the Herpa Premium American A300, and I don't collect AA stuff and am not a big fan of the A300. That's how good of a model it is.
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:31 PM   #13
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The Herpa premium line is definitely nice and I have owned many in the past. I just mostly have the American carriers they released included the impressive American you mention.
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Not to mention, a collector can usually buy three or four 1/400 widebodies for the same cost of one 1/200 model widebody.
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Old 11-01-2019, 02:36 PM   #15
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When talking about how much space they each take up, I also like to remind people that 1:200 is not just double the size of 1:400. Because you have to double everything in 3 dimensions, it's actually *eight* times the size. Granted, the vertical dimension is usually not as much of a factor, but they will eat up display space faster than you think.
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Stands help with getting a little more out of your space in any scale.
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Stands help with getting a little more out of your space in any scale.
True, I also use these acrylic stands quite a bit. I can usually get 4 or 5 more widebodies on a given shelf with them. These even work for 1:200 up to about 737 size.

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I just can't afford the space or cost of 1/200, beyond just a few. If I could, I would have chosen 1/200, the variety of moulds seems greater especially older classics.

NG have brightened up a somewhat stagnating 1/400 with superb detail only matched by some Aeroclassics. But as my interest is mainly older stuff, I'm finding the releases of little interest to me. The recent TriStar and 757 are an exception.

But that is not a criticism, I realise people have diverse interests in the hobby, and there is a demand for the endless production of modern twin-jets.
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I started with both 1/72 and 1/500 scales when I was young. Today, I collect 1/400 more than 1/500 or 1/72 scales, but I never mix scales between them on a same shelf or a fighter with a liner, for example.
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So I have come up with a new strategy for collecting. I have collected 1:200 models since I started and there are some that are impossible to find. Delta 757 widget, American 757 polished, Saul Bass United etc.

So I am going to supplement my 1:200 scale with 1:400 that I can locate and then if I can get the 1:200 at some point I sell the 1:400 (maybe) that way there is no duplication.

What really pushed me over the edge on this is the outstanding detail on the NG models.

Anyone else here do 2 scales?
I did this. There were so many models available in 1/400 that simply weren't released in 1/200 and may never be. However, in the end, I ended up selling off my 1/400 collection. Even the models I really liked... they just don't look great next to the 1/200 releases. The details are too small for me to really enjoy them - particularly if they are in a cabinet and overshadowed by 1/200 releases. I kept three because they were specific planes I had worked on (right down to the registration), but I don't think I would bother buying another 1/400 model ever again.
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I actually display by different scales separately and away from each other, fortunately the 1/400 scale are easy to hang on the wall…

But there are certainly some in that sale that are not available in the larger scale, and the price is cheaper…
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Like this.....
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First 2 1 400 757 arrivals today, so I can stop looking for these in 1 200 scale.......
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Nice choices! I had these upon releases from Gemini200, sold them when deciding scales, then added them back before prices got crazy/they became impossible to find.
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Nice choices! I had these upon releases from Gemini200, sold them when deciding scales, then added them back before prices got crazy/they became impossible to find.
Part of this is strategy, part of this is keeping my wife from killing me from all the space I keep taking up in the house…

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...I have an understanding wife and a dedicated room for my planes. I want to move to the other side of town on some property so I can have an out building with a man cave to get more space for displaying. Too, I'm tired of neighborhood living!
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I have stuck to 1/400 scale for ther past 20 years and only have one or two models in 1/200 scale that I know will never be made in 1/400. I am quite happy with 1/400 scale being able to collect models between a Shorts 360 and an A380 without breaking the bank or running out of room.
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