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Old 08-25-2019, 04:29 PM   #1
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I looked around the forums and I may have missed it but NG Models, I'd like to humbly recommend the Airbus 220 / Bombardier CS100 CS300 mould for one of your next projects. I think that there's enough liveries produced currently or in development that this model can be financially viable. The current competition only has JC and Herpa CS-100/-300 and it looks outdated. You did a fantastic job with the COMAC C919, I feel that you can make an excellent Airbus A220 and fill a market gap that will be sure to grow.
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I would love to see one.the c series/a220 as I believe herpa are the only ones to attempt it and it's an ok mould but the landing gear is not good at all. It has only been around for a few years but we've already seen several different liveries in Europe.
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I would love to see one.the c series/a220 as I believe herpa are the only ones to attempt it and it's an ok mould but the landing gear is not good at all. It has only been around for a few years but we've already seen several different liveries in Europe.
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Wikipedia says five carriers have A220's in service. Not many liveries yet. It's an aircraft I hope sells extremely well--medium-size markets like my home ROC can use them--but there aren't a lot of operators yet.

I would say wait on an A220 mould. Classics like new 747 moulds, for which there are scores of liveries, seem to me a higher priority.

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Wikipedia says five carriers have A220's in service. Not many liveries yet. It's an aircraft I hope sells extremely well--medium-size markets like my home ROC can use them--but there aren't a lot of operators yet.

I would say wait on an A220 mould. Classics like new 747 moulds, for which there are scores of liveries, seem to me a higher priority.

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The 747 has been done to death in 1/400.

Give us new blood - Give us the C Series (A220)!
Yes on long outdated and old fashioned mouldings.
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I would love to see a new 747 mould as well, considering how many liveries were done by Phoenix and that terrible nose gear and Gemini / JC's outdated cradle-fit mould, but I think the A220 mould should be addressed first since NG can corner that market quickly. There are still quite a bit of 747 models still coming out, the market is flooded with them. The other current problem with the 747 mould is the rising cost of models and tariffs imminent here in the USA, how much would a 747 model cost? The A330 / Beluga was about $57 USD, that is pretty expensive. Now you throw tariffs on there and the costs would be above $60. Yes the same issue will occur on all models, but the expense ratio would start putting NG widebodies into a different cost category.
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Full support for the 747 but i'd prefer an A350 before a cs-100/300
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Full support for the 747 but i'd prefer an A350 before a cs-100/300
Another A350? I see the rationale for the 747, but isn’t that pretty well covered now?
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Full support for the 747 but i'd prefer an A350 before a cs-100/300
In my opinion there is only a weak need for an A220 and absolutely no need for another A350. AV400's is pretty damn good and the JC and Phoenix ones aren't train wrecks.

747s are a much higher priority but even they are less so than new moulds, like an MD-80, for me.
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Who needs an A-220 model? The South African gov't just impounded a Tanzanian A-220, so if the price is right, one could have the real thing!!
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I would love to see a new 747 mould as well, considering how many liveries were done by Phoenix and that terrible nose gear and Gemini / JC's outdated cradle-fit mould, but I think the A220 mould should be addressed first since NG can corner that market quickly. There are still quite a bit of 747 models still coming out, the market is flooded with them. The other current problem with the 747 mould is the rising cost of models and tariffs imminent here in the USA, how much would a 747 model cost? The A330 / Beluga was about $57 USD, that is pretty expensive. Now you throw tariffs on there and the costs would be above $60. Yes the same issue will occur on all models, but the expense ratio would start putting NG widebodies into a different cost category.
These tariffs will kill the hobby, if not at least in the USA, then everywhere else too. Waffle is predicting a bloodbath amongst retailers, and has cancelled all his discount deals and promotions.
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These tariffs will kill the hobby, if not at least in the USA, then everywhere else too. Waffle is predicting a bloodbath amongst retailers, and has cancelled all his discount deals and promotions.
Absolutely! Gemini's price hike is already killing sales. I think some companies are considering moving production elsewhere, but unsure if other countries can produce the same quality as China? India and Indonesia have been mentioned I believe? Surely Taiwan or South Korea could do that?
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Absolutely! Gemini's price hike is already killing sales. I think some companies are considering moving production elsewhere, but unsure if other countries can produce the same quality as China? India and Indonesia have been mentioned I believe? Surely Taiwan or South Korea could do that?
If I were a US based manufactuer, I'd be lobbying the government for some of those tariffs to be put into start up grants for setting up a manufacturing factory of their own. Otherwise what good are they ?
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Another A350? I see the rationale for the 747, but isn’t that pretty well covered now?
Like the 787 aswell....
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Like the 787 aswell....
I thought the 787 was a dumb move if I am being perfectly honest. But didn't the owner of NG want this for their own use or something? Cant remember exactly, but I raised my eyebrows when I saw they were releasing it. It's a good mould, but I can name at least 5 other aircraft that would have been more exciting to see.
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+ 100 for the Airbus A220-100 and A220-300 series.. One airline maybe impounded at Joburg airport, but it is a very nice livery of the Air Tanzania and recently there is also a new Egypt Air Express in the air..

Sorry big fan of this plane and would love to see if @NGModels sees a market in this little plane.. I think the Herpa one is mwha, but JC is better but GJ is using JC's mould but only making Delta planes..
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Absolutely! Gemini's price hike is already killing sales. I think some companies are considering moving production elsewhere, but unsure if other countries can produce the same quality as China? India and Indonesia have been mentioned I believe? Surely Taiwan or South Korea could do that?
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If I were a US based manufactuer, I'd be lobbying the government for some of those tariffs to be put into start up grants for setting up a manufacturing factory of their own. Otherwise what good are they ?
Not to go far off topic here but I would love to see US-based manufacturing of 1/400 scale models with savings passed on to the consumer. If that will not be the case, I wonder if the Korean or Taiwanese option could be utilized. Problem is that all the moulds are in China, new moulds would have to be created and that would be expensive to say the least. You would also have to hope that the new manufacturer would be as good and as receptive as NG Models has been to this community. I think the scale diecast community is in for a rough go of it in the near future.

I am a huge fan of the NG 789 mould but IFlyHA has a point, the market is saturated with 3 other 789 moulds. Same thing with the A350. That's my argument for the A220 mould, it will have more liveries in the future and right now there is only one other mould out there, and it is pretty mediocre. I would also like to see an MD-80 mould though after an A220 mould.
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Give us more MD-80 honestly.
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US manufacturing of 1/400 models is closer than most realize.
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I would like them to release an IOl-62 or 86.... the 1011 is pretty spot-on.
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747>a220
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I hope US manufacturing isn’t in the near future, if the big boys are having assembly issues in Seattle and Charleston, just imagine the issues we’ll have in 1/400.
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In my opinion there is only a weak need for an A220 and absolutely no need for another A350.
I agree with this point.

While I empathize with collectors of the A220, that current options are really pretty poor, I don't think there's currently enough options to do liveries on to make it entirely worthwhile.... at least not going head to head with competition actively using existing tooling, for the type.

What blue-chip liveries could be done??

Air Canada (doesn't exist yet)
Delta
JetBlue (doesn't exist yet)
Korean
Swiss

Yes, other operators exist, but as far as liveries that would guarantee ROI and sold out production runs?? A whole five; two of which don't even exist yet, and would be strictly fantasy liveries and registrations.

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I hope US manufacturing isn’t in the near future, if the big boys are having assembly issues in Seattle and Charleston, just imagine the issues we’ll have in 1/400.
Given the rash of recent QC issues with some producers in China, maybe US manufacturing will make 1:400 QC great again...
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A220 mould would be a great idea IMO. There's basically no one making the A220 at a satisfactory quality right now, as the herpa/gemini one's landing gear is rubbish and it's cockpit windows are way too small.

There may not be that many liveries to be done on the A220 just yet but there will be more in the future as more airlines are getting them.

At the very least Air Baltic's 3 special flag liveries would be instant purchases on my end.
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Lol I'd rather have a 747 mould... I'd have to file for bankruptcy but it would be worth it
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What i would like them to do is an A220 in 1/200. The Herpa version is ok, but definately got its flaws. And comparing the Gemini CRJ with the NG counterpart makes me believe they could do an excellent job on the A220 aswell. Especially the cockpit looks wrong on the Herpa/GJ/JC A220-300. Maybe also the EMB-170 - 195-E2.
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This. Plus MD-80.
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This. Plus MD-80.
The MD-80 case would be stronger than the 747 case, considering JC Wings should be popping out a new 744 mould at some point before the decade is over. Yes there are only 5 liveries to chose from, but by the time it takes to develop a new mould, there will be more.
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