Panda models wishlist ideas

planeoldwill · 06-22-2019, 02:58 AM

I dont know if panda view this forum but I wanted to see what models people would like them to make. If you do read this post panda I would love to see these made:

Vueling a320 love Barcelona livery EC-MNZ

Vueling a320 EC-JPI

Brussels Airlines a320 OO-SNF

Brussels Airlines a320 Brugel livery OO-SNE

Brussels Airlines a320 Tintin Livery

Brussels Airlines a320 smurfs livery OO-SND

Brussels airlines red devils a320 OO-SNA

Brussels Airlines a320 Magritte OO-SNC

Austrian Airlines a320 OE-LBO (Retro livery)

Austrian Airlines a320 OE-LBY

Austrian Airlines a320 OE-LBZ (Star alliance)

SAS a319 OY-KBP

SAS a319 OY-KBO (Retro Livery)

SAS a321 OY-KBL

Finnair a319 OH-LVI

Finnair a319 OH-LVD (Oneworld)

British airways a319 G-EUPJ (BEA livery)

British airways a319 G-EUPT

Aer lingus a320 EI-DVM (Retro livery)

Aer lingus EI-CVA (New livery)

C141*Lifter · 06-22-2019, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by planeoldwill

I dont know if panda view this forum but I wanted to see what models people would like them to make. If you do read this post panda I would love to see these made:

Vueling a320 love Barcelona livery EC-MNZ

Vueling a320 EC-JPI

SAS a319 OY-KBP

That Barcelona Vueling is a stunner! I would get both Vuelings, whether made by Panda or AeroClassics. I'm a collector of SAS models (I don't know why but I just am) and have all the baby buses by AeroClassics, which are really nicely made. They are quite scarce though. I'd be interested in a SAS A319 with the dome and antennas for sure.

Harvey

aklein707 · 06-22-2019, 12:30 PM

Considering AC has made most of those models being requested, on tooling ILLEGALLY cloned by those thieves at panda, this wishlist seems rather pointless.

dboyd001 · 06-22-2019, 02:12 PM

Smurfs???????????????????/

GAK!
Dave

planeoldwill · 06-22-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Considering AC has made most of those models being requested, on tooling ILLEGALLY cloned by those thieves at panda, this wishlist seems rather pointless.

Yes, however ac has got the colours completely wrong on quite a few and the mould does not have antennas or wifi domes. Furthermore, if panda are thieves, then why has there been no legal action against them? I'm not defending panda nor am I denigrating aeroclassics but as long as panda make a good a320, I will continue to buy them.

planeoldwill · 06-23-2019, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Considering AC has made most of those models being requested, on tooling ILLEGALLY cloned by those thieves at panda, this wishlist seems rather pointless.

Also, I dont take well to being condescended to by someone who I suspect works for aeroclassics. It never looks good when a manufacturer starts to tell customers what they can and cant do and gets into arguments with them. Gemini last year sent out a warning to its retailers that it'll cut them off if they stock ng models. What happened? Some retailers deliberately bought more of them and made ng more popular. If I were you, I would not go around trying to cause arguments with collectors, we don't like being patronized and criticized when we provide some constructive criticism.

JagT747 · 06-23-2019, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by planeoldwill

Also, I dont take well to being condescended to by someone who I suspect works for aeroclassics. It never looks good when a manufacturer starts to tell customers what they can and cant do and gets into arguments with them. Gemini last year sent out a warning to its retailers that it'll cut them off if they stock ng models. What happened? Some retailers deliberately bought more of them and made ng more popular. If I were you, I would not go around trying to cause arguments with collectors, we don't like being patronized and criticized when we provide some constructive criticism.

I think AC can't prove anything (No offence Andrew) and it would be pointless spending thousands of $$ for legal fees especially in China of all places where people rip off each other everyday. (For Ex - some chinese shops all sell the same thing) I understand Andrew doesn't like the use of antennas, but they came out perfectly fine on the baby bus line. Why not on the main Aeroclassics one?

dennypayne · 06-23-2019, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JagT747

I understand Andrew doesn't like the use of antennas, but they came out perfectly fine on the baby bus line. Why not on the main Aeroclassics one?

Baby Bus is Aeroclassics' brand and they've never had antennas on them either.

planeoldwill · 06-23-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JagT747

I think AC can't prove anything (No offence Andrew) and it would be pointless spending thousands of $$ for legal fees especially in China of all places where people rip off each other everyday. (For Ex - some chinese shops all sell the same thing) I understand Andrew doesn't like the use of antennas, but they came out perfectly fine on the baby bus line. Why not on the main Aeroclassics one?

I understand, it just really annoys me that I tried to create a thread and open a discussion about what a320s we would like to see and then you get stupid accusations about theft and stolen moulds with no evidence.

JagT747 · 06-23-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dennypayne

Baby Bus is Aeroclassics' brand and they've never had antennas on them either.

Oh oops. My bad, my only Baby bus model that I bought was a gift for one of my friends during Christmas. I thought it had an attena but mistaked it for a Gemini model I compared side by side which had attenas.

Silly me

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by planeoldwill

I understand, it just really annoys me that I tried to create a thread and open a discussion about what a320s we would like to see and then you get stupid accusations about theft and stolen moulds with no evidence.

It annoys you?? Too bloody bad!! It annoys me that after the 20+ years of blood and sweat put into this business, not to mention a small fortune, that certain unethical scumbags in China choose to steal the IP of others instead of creating things by themselves. Dirtbags like that add nothing to this, or any other hobby, and attitudes such that you display, make the legitimate ones who have contributed so much, just want to pack it all in, and leave you all to your miseries.

If you want to start a thread on A320s in general, I'm sure the legitimate manufacturers, such as GeminiJets, AeroClassics, and Phoenix, would have something to offer.

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JagT747

I think AC can't prove anything (No offence Andrew) and it would be pointless spending thousands of $$ for legal fees especially in China of all places where people rip off each other everyday. (For Ex - some chinese shops all sell the same thing) I understand Andrew doesn't like the use of antennas, but they came out perfectly fine on the baby bus line. Why not on the main Aeroclassics one?

Don't be so sure about that!
As for antennas on a small 1/400 model, they are not to scale. They are just a gimmick. We don't do gimmicks!!

Lufthansaboy · 06-24-2019, 04:14 AM

I'd certainly agree with Austrian. I don't think any baby buses have been done in the regular livery since the days of Dragon.

planeoldwill · 06-24-2019, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lufthansaboy

I'd certainly agree with Austrian. I don't think any baby buses have been done in the regular livery since the days of Dragon.

Yeah, no one has done the Austrian star alliance and the Austrian retro yet. Would be a nice addition to the European models.

planeoldwill · 06-24-2019, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Don't be so sure about that!
As for antennas on a small 1/400 model, they are not to scale. They are just a gimmick. We don't do gimmicks!!

So instead of arguing with us on this forum, why dont you starting doing the research and get them to scale?

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by planeoldwill

Also, I dont take well to being condescended to by someone who I suspect works for aeroclassics. It never looks good when a manufacturer starts to tell customers what they can and cant do and gets into arguments with them. Gemini last year sent out a warning to its retailers that it'll cut them off if they stock ng models. What happened? Some retailers deliberately bought more of them and made ng more popular. If I were you, I would not go around trying to cause arguments with collectors, we don't like being patronized and criticized when we provide some constructive criticism.

Supporting a criminal enterprise, and being called out on it, is hardly being criticized for constructive criticism.
Au contraire mon chum!!

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by planeoldwill

So instead of arguing with us on this forum, why dont you starting doing the research and get them to scale?

Because the laws of physics prevent something that small being to scale. Don't take me for a fool!!

planeoldwill · 06-24-2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Because the laws of physics prevent something that small being to scale. Don't take me for a fool!!

I'm not however, companies such as ng models have been able to make antennas which are to scale on moulds such as the 737-800 which is relatively the size of an a320.

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 10:15 AM

Those antennas are NOT to scale. Try measuring it, and the hole it's housed in. It's just a gimmick.

Washer&Dryer · 06-24-2019, 11:24 AM

And your wheels on your 767/L1011 are not to scale, try measuring it!

C141*Lifter · 06-24-2019, 01:28 PM

I just want a Barcelona Vueling A320! Didn't know it existed, but now that I've seen a picture, I want it! Don't care who makes it as long as it's NOT Gemini Jets, JC or Phoenix doing the making.

Harvey

Lufthansaboy · 06-24-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C141*Lifter

I just want a Barcelona Vueling A320! Didn't know it existed, but now that I've seen a picture, I want it! Don't care who makes it as long as it's NOT Gemini Jets, JC or Phoenix doing the making.

Harvey

GJ and Phoenix have produced one and two A320's respectively.

C141*Lifter · 06-24-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lufthansaboy

GJ and Phoenix have produced one and two A320's respectively.

Yeah, but not the Vueling in the Barcelona livery. I'd rather have a different manufacturer produce it than the 3 I mentioned.

Harvey

aklein707 · 06-24-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Washer&Dryer

And your wheels on your 767/L1011 are not to scale, try measuring it!

We gave exactly what you guys wanted. I personally do not like the gear on those 2 models.

FlyingPanda · 06-25-2019, 12:24 AM

Thank you for your suggestions to PM, we'll pay more attention to these planes, hope they can meet you all in the future

JagT747 · 06-25-2019, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

We gave exactly what you guys wanted. I personally do not like the gear on those 2 models.

Hi Andrew not to be rude or anything, why not spend a bit more time and perfecting your 767/L1011 mould. Sure it might cost aeroclassics, but in the end it'd be a model which you and collectors could be happy with. People would look to Aeroclassics for future models instead of competitors. If you were to make adjustments to your L1011 mould, it can easily compete with NG who seems to be the clear winner right now (No offence). Your 767 mould granted is decent is already better than others I've seen in the past. It doesn't take long for another manufacturer to make one which could beat yours. Assuming currently the 767 is one of your main focuses, it'd be right to repair issues you don't like with the mould, so you can be in a position NG is in right now. They have undoubtedly the best 757 mould, and everyone turns to them rather than GJ or Herpa for 757 in 1:400. Since Aeroclassics is the only one focusing on a few 767 releases per month (which you keep up with and is great *cough cough JCWings* and Quality Control seems to be getting better) and you were able to interact a bit more with Collectors, show off a perfected 767 mould you can easily grab a fresh batch of collectors who didn't previously purchase AC Models. Anyways just a suggestion and didn't mean to cause any offence to Aeroclassics or you. (Also Any chance Aeroclassics is planning bigger sized models like 747?)

A220-100 · 06-25-2019, 01:57 PM

I hope they use the neo and MAX moulds more. They both have some pretty interesting operators.

BA2936 · 06-25-2019, 03:07 PM

Apologies if already requested, but with the 733 mould, for the UK collectors, Air Europe, Orion, Dan Air and Monarch Airlines as a start, all would be well received!

RStretton · 06-25-2019, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BA2936

Apologies if already requested, but with the 733 mould, for the UK collectors, Air Europe, Orion, Dan Air and Monarch Airlines as a start, all would be well received!

Completely agree all much desired - Britannia too

aklein707 · 06-25-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JagT747

Hi Andrew not to be rude or anything, why not spend a bit more time and perfecting your 767/L1011 mould. Sure it might cost aeroclassics, but in the end it'd be a model which you and collectors could be happy with. People would look to Aeroclassics for future models instead of competitors. If you were to make adjustments to your L1011 mould, it can easily compete with NG who seems to be the clear winner right now (No offence). Your 767 mould granted is decent is already better than others I've seen in the past. It doesn't take long for another manufacturer to make one which could beat yours. Assuming currently the 767 is one of your main focuses, it'd be right to repair issues you don't like with the mould, so you can be in a position NG is in right now. They have undoubtedly the best 757 mould, and everyone turns to them rather than GJ or Herpa for 757 in 1:400. Since Aeroclassics is the only one focusing on a few 767 releases per month (which you keep up with and is great *cough cough JCWings* and Quality Control seems to be getting better) and you were able to interact a bit more with Collectors, show off a perfected 767 mould you can easily grab a fresh batch of collectors who didn't previously purchase AC Models. Anyways just a suggestion and didn't mean to cause any offence to Aeroclassics or you. (Also Any chance Aeroclassics is planning bigger sized models like 747?)

We already released just about every 747 under the sun, so will not be repeating those efforts.
Not sure what you think is wrong with the AC 767; the nosewheel tire may be a tad big, but all the earlier errors have been addressed already.

PRM1162 · 06-26-2019, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BA2936

Apologies if already requested, but with the 733 mould, for the UK collectors, Air Europe, Orion, Dan Air and Monarch Airlines as a start, all would be well received!

Agreed!! And agree with Richard too on the Britannia 737-300.... and would be happy to see British Midland, Inter European Airways and Debonair as well...

RStretton · 06-26-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PRM1162

Agreed!! And agree with Richard too on the Britannia 737-300.... and would be happy to see British Midland, Inter European Airways and Debonair as well...

Oh yeah I'll take all those as well

Ribeye · 06-26-2019, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aklein707

Those antennas are NOT to scale. Try measuring it, and the hole it's housed in. It's just a gimmick.

It's crazy how you can be so hung up about antennas when your models have so many more egregious errors these days.

Why are NG and Panda able to make such better quality products than you? You accuse Panda of stealing stuff - with no evidence presented, I might add - and yet they make much better stuff. It doesn't add up.

7seven7 · 06-27-2019, 12:10 PM

I have some recommendations for Panda to release that will be very popular in Europe especially. Most of these have either never been made in 1:400 scale or are extremely rare to find:

A320:
- easyJet with sharklets (Normal new livery) - G-EZOZ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet without sharklets (Normal new livery) - G-EZUP --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet with sharklets (Normal old livery) - G-EZWJ --> VERY RARE
- easyjet without sharklets (normal old livery) - G-EZUL --> VERY RARE
- easyJet (special 'Bordeaux' Titles) - G-EZUH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'Moscow' Titles) - G-EZUG --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'Europe Car' titles) - G-EZPD --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special '20 years' livery) - G-EZOX --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'Berlin' Titles) - OE-IZQ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (Orange livery) - G-EZUI --> VERY RARE
- Wizzair with sharklets (Old livery) - HA-LPR --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Wizzair without sharklets (Old livery) - HA-LYK --> VERY RARE
- Wizzair with sharklets (new livery) - HA-LYT --> VERY RARE
- Wizzair without sharklets (new livery) - HA-LWP --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Thomas Cook (new yellow/grey livery) - EC-MVF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Thomas Cook (old blue livery) - G-VCED --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Thomas Cook/Smart Lynx (White Livery) - YL-LCL --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Titan Airways - G-POWK --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Germanwings - G-AIPZ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Brussels Airlines (normal livery) - OO-SNI --> VERY RARE
- Brussels Airlines (Red Devils livery) - OO-SNA --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Brussels Airlines (Smurfs Livery) - OO-SND --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Brussels Airlines (Tomorrowland livery) - OO-SNF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- British Airways (Landor Livery) - G-BUSE --> VERY RARE
- Laudamotion – OE-LOI --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Pegasus Airlines – TC-DCH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Pegasus Airlines A320neo – TC-NBH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

A319:
- easyjet (Normal new livery) - G-EZBW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyjet (Normal old livery) - G-EZBM --> VERY RARE
- easyJet (special 'Hamburg' titles) - G-EZBG --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'Venezia' titles) - OE-LKF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'Amsterdam' titles) - G-EZDN --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyJet (special 'europe car' titles) - G-EZDR --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Germanwings - D-AGWV --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Eurowings - D-ABGJ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Volotea - EC-NCB --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

737-300:
- easyjet (normal old livery) - G-EZYJ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyjet (livery with phone number on side) - G-EZYF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- easyjet (stop BA stop titles) - G-EZYH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Jet2 (Yorkshire Livery) - G-CELB --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Jet2 (Manchester Livery - with or without winglets) - G-CELI --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- West Atlantic (grey livery) - G-JMCO --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- West Atlantic (all white livery) - G-JMCM --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Titan Airways (new livery) - G-ZAPW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Titan Airways (old livery) - G-POWC --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Norwegian Air Shuttle (no winglets) - LN-KKR --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Norwegian Air Shuttle (with winglets) - LN-KKX --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Europe Air Post - F-GFUE --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- FlyBe - G-STRE --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Purple Livery) - G-IGOC --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Light Green Livery) - G-IGOH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Dark Green Livery) - G-IGOF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Orange Livery) - G-IGOH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Blue Livery) - G-IGOJ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Pink Livery) - G-IGOY --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

Whilst all the easyJet liveries would be popular, the Normal livery (both old and new) will definitely be the most popular by far.

I hope you consider some/all of these over the coming months, as you would make many collectors very happy

Transpac787 · 06-27-2019, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 7seven7

I have some recommendations for Panda to release that will be very popular in Europe especially. Most of these have either never been made in 1:400 scale or are extremely rare to find

This list made me chuckle. Fair point, you might be right in the very technical sense that those exact planes have never been made before. But, applying your logic, I could say:

737-300:
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N611SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N612SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N613SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N614SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N615SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N616SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N617SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

C'mon man! Don't be quite so transparent.

I don't even have a dog in this fight, as I collect classics. I've never bought a Panda product, and likely never will, since they're a producer for the contemporary market.

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Originally Posted by 7seven7

I hope you consider some/all of these over the coming months, as you would make **many collectors** very happy

Or at least one, given the extremely specific nature of the requests.

RStretton · 06-27-2019, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 7seven7

- Go! Airlines (Purple Livery) - G-IGOC --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Light Green Livery) - G-IGOH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Dark Green Livery) - G-IGOF --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Orange Livery) - G-IGOH --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Blue Livery) - G-IGOJ --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Go! Airlines (Pink Livery) - G-IGOY --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

Personally I'd probably get some of these Go ones but none of the rest

7seven7 · 06-27-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Transpac787

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Originally Posted by 7seven7

I have some recommendations for Panda to release that will be very popular in Europe especially. Most of these have either never been made in 1:400 scale or are extremely rare to find

This list made me chuckle. Fair point, you might be right in the very technical sense that those exact planes have never been made before. But, applying your logic, I could say:

737-300:
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N611SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N612SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N613SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N614SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N615SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N616SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE
- Southwest Airlines (old livery) - N617SW --> NEVER MADE BEFORE

C'mon man! Don't be quite so transparent. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

I don't even have a dog in this fight, as I collect classics. I've never bought a Panda product, and likely never will, since they're a producer for the contemporary market.

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Originally Posted by 7seven7

I hope you consider some/all of these over the coming months, as you would make **many collectors** very happy

Or at least one, given the extremely specific nature of the requests. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

Apologies, maybe I should've been clearer, the registrations were only meant as examples. Personally I don't really care about which regs they are, apart from the special liveries of course.

aklein707 · 06-27-2019, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribeye

It's crazy how you can be so hung up about antennas when your models have so many more egregious errors these days.

Why are NG and Panda able to make such better quality products than you? You accuse Panda of stealing stuff - with no evidence presented, I might add - and yet they make much better stuff. It doesn't add up.

What doesn't add up is how you can continue to spout moronic things out your anus, and still never make any sense.

C141*Lifter · 07-08-2019, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingPanda

Thank you for your suggestions to PM, we'll pay more attention to these planes, hope they can meet you all in the future

FlyingPanda, you released a U.S. Airways A320 a couple of years ago, but I don't see an A321 in the same livery released. Is a U.S. Airways A321 also in the release schedule?

Harvey