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Old 05-29-2019, 07:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I was just taking my models out of the box. I do this every week to clean and have a look. Now yesterday when I opened it up I noticed some of my models has had paints rubbed off in the finer details like the windows and Doors.

I used to hold the model with bare hands and grip it hard but recently I have been using cotton gloves. I use a soft make up brush for cleaning. Now Im not sure when this happened when i touched it with my bare hands or it was just rubbed off but Im getting really frustrated now because I have spent lots of money and this is happening. Can anyone help?

I live in Malaysia so could it be Humidity?

I dont have any space to display it in a glass cabinet and can't afford the cabinet hence I leave it in the box.

Thanks in advance from a concerned Avgeek!

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Old 05-29-2019, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So I was just taking my models out of the box. (Frequent friction between the storage foam and the model’s surface i.e. paint and pad printing)

I do this every week to clean and have a look. (Depends on how long have you been doing this on a weekly basis)

I used to hold the model with bare hands and grip it hard. (How hard did you grip it and I’d assume it’s weekly?)

I use a soft make up brush for cleaning. (It’s the frequency of the cleaning I think)

I live in Malaysia so could it be Humidity? (Can’t say with 100% certainty given the above somewhat excessive handling, understanding that these models are meant for display or if not possible storage and not frequent handling).
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1- That makes sense. Previously when I first started collecting I wasn't so careful and touched in and handled it like its just some Hotwheels. Now I handle it with cotton gloves and hold it by the wings.

2- I started doing this since starting the collection maybe July 2018? And yes almost weekly and also just to take pictures as I have an Instagram for my models as a hobby.

3-I would grip it like a piece of metal? I would have a model in each hand a grab it palm down with the fingers on the fuselage? So with it being decently weighted, I guess I grip it hard with my fingers.

4- I do clean it quite a bit but I guess there shouldn't be a need for it as it is in the box.

5-I see, this would make sense as some of my newer models that were recently bought at which point I started being more careful.

Seperate note,the NZ B777 only recently had those paint rubbing off... Does it still rub off even if I wear gloves as you these models arent meant for handling

Another question is, is it okay to leave my models out for a long period time where does may be present but at least less handling?

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Old 05-29-2019, 11:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heres another Model, A380 JC Wings Singapore Airlines. As you can see some of the door lines have been rubbed off. This is where I would hold the models whilst moving it around.

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Old 05-29-2019, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No one else has this problem (its very rare) but since it seems to be common for you, I'd suggest its mostly because of your way of handling them. A weekly clean is unecessary, and I'd only want to clean models with a bare metal type finish. I know a collector living in humid conditions and he hasn't said anything like this. So it must just be your way of handling them.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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No one else has this problem (its very rare) but since it seems to be common for you, I'd suggest its mostly because of your way of handling them. A weekly clean is unecessary, and I'd only want to clean models with a bare metal type finish. I know a collector living in humid conditions and he hasn't said anything like this. So it must just be your way of handling them.
That is very true. I have asked my friends here in Malaysia and they also have had no problems at all. And as you say I think this is a common problem only for me due to my Handling. As a rule of thumb,what should I do? Should I only take it out when I want to take photos etc and minimize my handling to maybe once a month?

As stated before I dont have any space to leave the models out at the moment. Is it okay to leave it in the box?

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Old 05-30-2019, 12:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If they are in the box, why are your cleaning them? If you are taking them out to look at them, just do that and place them back in the box. Brushing, gripping too hard (even with cotton gloves and make up brush) causes fine abrasive contact and eventually will degrade the fine printing that is overlaid on the main fuselage color. Remember dust on the surface can scratch the finish no matter what you are using to try to remove it! I've been handling my planes with bare hands for years and never had this problem. These rituals (much done in baseball, voodoo/witch doctors) is weird to me!
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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taking models out of boxes to clean once a week...hmmmm...Im behind 780 weeks on some of mine..
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Weekly cleaning seems excessive especially if boxed. But, I have seen threads about high humidity being detrimental to diecast.
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I think it's the constant in and out of the box. Shouldn't need cleaning if boxed up.

I too have cotton gloves. But after a couple near mishaps where an antenna got stuck in the material, I just use my bare and clean hands to move them.
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Weekly cleaning seems excessive especially if boxed. But, I have seen threads about high humidity being detrimental to diecast.
This is true. Actually I think everyone is right hahah. Im the dumbo excessively handling and cleaning them when theres no need. This is founded by one particular model that I haven't taken out of the box for about 7 months now and the paint is still basically perfect so can't be so much Humidity but 98% my excessive handling

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Old 05-30-2019, 11:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Like others have suggested it's possible it could be the frequent cleaning, though I dust my models by hand and haven't had any issues. Another possibility is that the printing just wasn't well adhered, or was weakly printed in the first place. I once had a window smear off a brand new model.
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That is very true. I have asked my friends here in Malaysia and they also have had no problems at all. And as you say I think this is a common problem only for me due to my Handling. As a rule of thumb,what should I do? Should I only take it out when I want to take photos etc and minimize my handling to maybe once a month?

As stated before I dont have any space to leave the models out at the moment. Is it okay to leave it in the box?

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Best bet is just excessive handling. Take them out of box for pictures only, unless you plan to display them. Removing them weekly is sort of excessive on the models (assuming you pack it up every time) and usually there's so many of those plastic sheets that go in between the model and cradle.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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