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Old 04-12-2019, 03:06 AM   #1
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It is time. The moment we've all been waiting for is here - a new Tristar from NG Models, a manufacturer that has changed the paradigm in 1:400 since they started.

See below for the full review of the two standard Tristar moulds. They aren't perfect but they are close and NG are working on fixing the issues I've identified.

Incidentally I should point out the obvious, that these models were sent to me for free. Anybody who thinks that changes my opinions is a moron. This statement is aimed at those spreading lies via official letters to retailers!

Anyway click the link below for a load of photos (mostly in FlickR so you can expand them to get a really good look) and my thoughts on the first L-1011s to make an appearance in 2019. They won't be the last or even the first to market so keep tuned for more L-1011 news coming soon.

Thanks to NG for letting me get this scoop and for doing a great job for collectors.

https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/m...-tristar-1-200

NG Models Lockheed L-1011 Tristar by rstretton, on Flickr
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It is time. The moment we've all been waiting for is here - a new Tristar from NG Models, a manufacturer that has changed the paradigm in 1:400 since they started.
They're looking great. My own feedback was also the #1 and #3 pylon shape. It looks like it was improved, but still not *quite* there. Otherwise, the work looks outstanding. Remarkable effort put into those.

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Incidentally I should point out the obvious, that these models were sent to me for free. Anybody who thinks that changes my opinions is a moron. This statement is aimed at those spreading lies via official letters to retailers!
Hahahahahaha....

Gee whiz, I wonder who that could possibly be?!?!?!?!

How humiliating for them, to feel their only way to compete is by secret threats of reprisals, and not by improving their products and consumer loyalty.

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Old 04-12-2019, 04:17 AM   #3
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In continuing looking at your Flickr photos....

The vertical tail shape and nose height look as accurate as any mould, to date. Again, outstanding work done by NG. And thank you for posting the direct comparisons... it was nice to see a side-by-side look at the NG sample next to the recent Cathay Pacific.

I anxiously await the AC version, as well. If it's anything like the AC DC10, the attention to detail will be exemplary.
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OK - stuck in a rut, but the front cowls of engines 1 and 3 are slanted backward top to bottom on all Tristars, and from what I'm seeing, this feature is missing on the NGM prototypes - say it ain't so... (Dragon Wings got it right with their -500.) Doug
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Hi Richard, thanks for this exciting preview of NG's sample moulds and for your thorough write-up; exciting stuff! And WOW. They look fantastic, the've captured the key areas such as the distinctive 'dolphin' nose exceptionally well, correct wing angle as with a beautifully rendered S-duct, #2 intake and tail. I agree with Transpac that further tweaking of the #1 and #3 pylons is required, and yes the nosegear doors a tad too large, as with the tyre, but that could be a trick of the eye, it's the wheel rim itself that is a touch too big I think, but this is all nitpicking!

The other thing NG will need to watch is the RB-211 engines, the exhaust is not too long, there were variations with this (look at Saudia's TriStars - RB.211-524s on their L-1011-200 with shorter 15-degree afterbody with improved flow of exhaust gas from the engine; and their L-1011-100 with RB.211-22 engines and 11-degree afterbody - this is what NG have represented on their sample mould, and would not be correct for certain operators of the type)

Very interesting to see all the direct stark differences between NG's sample and the other moulds produced to date; NG are well on the way to having a truly accurate 1/400 representation of a TriStar Fantastic.

RB.211-22s on HZ-AHA (later upgraded to a -200):

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RB.211-524s on HZ-AHE:
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OK - stuck in a rut, but the front cowls of engines 1 and 3 are slanted backward top to bottom on all Tristars, and from what I'm seeing, this feature is missing on the NGM prototypes - say it ain't so... (Dragon Wings got it right with their -500.) Doug

Yeah I agree, doing lots of direct comparisons right now with the 1:1, the engines & pylons do need further work, as I posted above they need to pay attention to the exhaust cone differences between the RB.211 types as well. It's still in the sample stage so hopefully this can all be ironed out. It's so close though!!
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Agreed, the exhaust length was troubling me, not the short and stubby one I remember or see in my photos. But I have also found longer exhausts on the earlier airframes. One for NG to watch out for. HZ-AHE is definately how I remember the 'look'.
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Agreed, the exhaust length was troubling me, not the short and stubby one I remember or see in my phots. But I have also found longer exhausts on the earlier airframes. One for NG to watch out for. HZ-AHE is definately how I remember the 'look'.

Yes - the shorter exhaust cone became more ubiquitous; especially as early L-1011-1s were upgraded to -200/250s. All original early delivery L-1011s had them at the start, so it's a complex matter of getting them on the correct airframes/registrations/eras. PSAs L-1011s had the longer cones, for example, (MSN 1064 & 1079) and were then subsequently converted to Dash -100s and leased to AeroPeru in late 1978-1979, but still retained the original exhaust cones.
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So looking again, the tail engine has the short exhaust, mixed with long exhaust wing mounted engines.

Even more to look out for! Glad I don't make these, too many pitfalls, and I thought the Tristar was simple
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Thanks for Richard's review.We will fix the problems before making products.
These samples(include A330s) can also be seen in GATWICK SHOW.
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Incidentally I should point out the obvious, that these models were sent to me for free. Anybody who thinks that changes my opinions is a moron. This statement is aimed at those spreading lies via official letters to retailers!

Thanks to NG for letting me get this scoop and for doing a great job for collectors.
Ditto for anyone that thinks we can't form our own opinions about your reviews. Quite a few of us have pretty intimate knowledge of aircraft and can see when a given release is crap or not. Not all of us have the time to post in-depth reviews as you do though, so it's much appreciated that you take that time.

Glad that NG will be fixing the pylons, and I would also request that you mention to them that the maingear doors don't really capture the characteristic angled shape of the 1:1 either. All in all though, a really superior effort here!

Anyway, I'm very excited to get my hands on these and replace a lot of obsolete moulds. It really stands out in your photos how hideous the BBOX is in comparison.
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What are those 'white bits' peeking out from #2 intakes ?
Surely, surely they cannot be the cone and spinning fans .......
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A big thank you to Rich and to every one else helping NG get these much-anticipated L-1011 moulds honed. Life doesn't allow me to do much examining right now, but I'm as excited as everyone else for their arrival! And for AC's as well.

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Pretty sure that's just a reflection off the gray metal inside there. I would imagine that will be painted black on the production models.
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So looking again, the tail engine has the short exhaust, mixed with long exhaust wing mounted engines.

Even more to look out for! Glad I don't make these, too many pitfalls, and I thought the Tristar was simple

No the tail exhaust is the very same longer type - look again! All three engines are RB.211-22s with 11-degree afterbody:


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Pretty sure that's just a reflection off the gray metal inside there. I would imagine that will be painted black on the production models.

It is a reflection, the close-up pictures in his review show this up more clearly...it's impossible to see the fan on the 1:1, the S-duct kind of gets in the way. This is not a DC-10! NG wouldn't get that wrong
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What are those 'white bits' peeking out from #2 intakes?
Surely, surely they cannot be the cone and spinning fans
That would be tragic if it were so. Let's hope if it is, it's fixed before it goes into production.
I'm pretty loosey-goosey in my pickiness but I think this would be a deal-breaker for me.
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What do people think of the nose cone? In some of the shots it looks a teeny bit blunt, particularly on the upper curve, compared to the 1:1 to my eye. Could just be the angles and all. Or my eye...
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That would be tragic if it were so. Let's hope if it is, it's fixed before it goes into production.
I'm pretty loosey-goosey in my pickiness but I think this would be a deal-breaker for me.

There are definitely no fans inside the #2 intake, I've looked at the pics thoroughly, the head-on views clearly show that there isn't. There is reflection in some angles coming from the centre brad-point impression left from milling out the intake.
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What do people think of the nose cone? In some of the shots it looks a teeny bit blunt, particularly on the upper curve, compared to the 1:1 to my eye. Could just be the angles and all. Or my eye...

Hmmm, looking at a front side profile close-up views where the NG mould is compared head-on with all the various past efforts, and it looks quite well rounded there, the shape is looking pretty good to me, hard to tell. Will get a good, closer look at it in person on Sunday hopefully. I think the camera angles can play tricks like this.
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Part 2 featuring the Tristar 500 will be up in the next ten hours or so. I can assure you there is no fan blade visible in the no 2 engine.
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Lol well I won't rub it in! Hopefully if the few tweaks needed are implemented, you'll be rewarded with some lovely models very soon, which should be sufficient compensation
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Part 2 featuring the Tristar 500 will be up in the next ten hours or so. I can assure you there is no fan blade visible in the no 2 engine.

Thanks Richard, just read this now and left some suggestions in the thread; and thanks for confirming, I knew that NG wouldn't make a monumental ****-up like that
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That is a great mould.. I am hoping for a Royal Jordanian..
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I have many of the Tristars to date ncluding the Dragon versions and the Aviation400's but I'm soooo looking forward to these that not only will I purchase the many that become available,but I will probably sell off my older ones!! Bring em on!!!
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