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Old 04-19-2021, 10:23 AM   #301 (permalink)
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Regardless it makes no sense to make the version of the aircraft at the end of its service. It is highly unlikely that NG will make another Air Lanka Tristar 500 so a bit more care would have shown that there were two better versions of this scheme to be made.
My bad haha, but yeah you’re right, it really makes no sense to recreate the aircraft in an stage when it had already been in supervise for years when having other versions of it which represent the service made.
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That early Dragon Wings release, however, was a standard fuselage (long-body) L-1011 version. Just keep in mind. No aircraft name either, just the Sri Lankan flag printed aside the "Air Lanka" titles.
Aha! Thanks for that. Didn't realize! For some reason, I had it in my mind as being a Dash -500. It would still be a nice addition (if it hasn't yellowed - I know this can be a problem for older DW models)...so we don't have a correct delivery c/s -500 example in 1:400 still
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Aha! Thanks for that. Didn't realize! For some reason, I had it in my mind as being a Dash -500. It would still be a nice addition (if it hasn't yellowed - I know this can be a problem for older DW models)...so we don't have a correct delivery c/s -500 example in 1:400 still
Since NG Models is listening and more committed to its products (and quality) than any other brand I have seen in recent years and decades, I would say: "Never say never again!".
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Since NG Models is listening and more committed to its products (and quality) than any other brand I have seen in recent years and decades, I would say: "Never say never again!".
This is true I won't give up hope just yet, then! Ah Sean Connery. Much missed. Cheers
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Since NG Models is listening and more committed to its products (and quality) than any other brand I have seen in recent years and decades, I would say: "Never say never again!".
That statement is a load of bollocks and you know it. We are all here to look for feedback and ideas. It's a pity some of you who have your heads so far up their anuses that you can't see that.
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Since NG Models is listening and more committed to its products (and quality) than any other brand I have seen in recent years and decades, I would say: "Never say never again!".
Decades??? your right the Herpa Premium models were crap next to NG..
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That statement is a load of bollocks and you know it. We are all here to look for feedback and ideas. It's a pity some of you who have your heads so far up their anuses that you can't see that.
Well, when talking about ”having head so far up” you are probably talking to anyone but yourself, Andy.

I was talking about NG listening - not just “looking for feedback”. And they do listen with respect - other than, for example, you do, which is quite unfortunate. You do expect praise for your products even if they are faulty; you do expect the best will in the world even though you are offering anything but insults.


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Decades??? your right the Herpa Premium models were crap next to NG..
Looks like your a prime candidate for a NG tattoo.
You misread my post, Crownvic. I said NG is listening and more committed to its products (and quality). Nice you didn’t think about comparing AeroClassics or GeminiJets with NG, but Herpa Premium. Well, back on topic, I still don’t see what you’re trying to tell. Herpa delivered outstanding products with their LME and the HPE - but what’s got to do this with listening to the collectors when a product doesn’t meet expectations? Maybe you can explain that - otherwise I simply check it off as a misunderstanding.
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And once again, it's business as usual here on DAC...
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Looks like your a prime candidate for a NG tattoo.
NG tattoo...hmmm. Might consider having one of those done next time I'm up in Camden Town. Wonder where it should go
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I actually have a higher admiration for all the model manufacturers who used to participate on this forum but got tired of all the collector nitpickers with their Dacrometers out (current NG SP for an example) and have left this forum, said good riddance and still turn a nice profit and sell out almost everything they produce with out all the whiny nitpicker collector nonsense.
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I actually have a higher admiration for all the model manufacturers who used to participate on this forum but got tired of all the collector nitpickers with their Dacrometers out (current NG SP for an example) and have left this forum, said good riddance and still turn a nice profit and sell out almost everything they produce with out all the whiny nitpicker collector nonsense.
Can’t say I disagree here. Just got my NG Pan Am SP - looks great and it’s a welcome addition to the collection.
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That statement is a load of bollocks and you know it. We are all here to look for feedback and ideas. It's a pity some of you who have your heads so far up their anuses that you can't see that.
Totally, because you called me a retard when pointing out the very wrong color on your Vietnam A321, and can’t take criticism, being your arguments just personal biased opinions... Totally not a hypocrite move Andrew...
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Haha, just buy what ever we produce and shut up!
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I'm not even going to comment on some of the nonsense above. Anyway I sent NG the review and had a few e-mails back and forth on the topic of wheelhubs etc and hopefully they will resolve the issue.
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I'm not even going to comment on some of the nonsense above. Anyway I sent NG the review and had a few e-mails back and forth on the topic of wheelhubs etc and hopefully they will resolve the issue.
Thank you Richard. I'm confident they'll get it resolved eventually.
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Well, when talking about ”having head so far up” you are probably talking to anyone but yourself, Andy.

I was talking about NG listening - not just “looking for feedback”. And they do listen with respect - other than, for example, you do, which is quite unfortunate. You do expect praise for your products even if they are faulty; you do expect the best will in the world even though you are offering anything but insults.



You misread my post, Crownvic. I said NG is listening and more committed to its products (and quality). Nice you didn’t think about comparing AeroClassics or GeminiJets with NG, but Herpa Premium. Well, back on topic, I still don’t see what you’re trying to tell. Herpa delivered outstanding products with their LME and the HPE - but what’s got to do this with listening to the collectors when a product doesn’t meet expectations? Maybe you can explain that - otherwise I simply check it off as a misunderstanding.
Respect? You have to earn it and with your years of negativity and hostility, you're doing everything in your power to be ignored and/or spoken to with contempt. Have a nice day!
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Can’t say I disagree here. Just got my NG Pan Am SP - looks great and it’s a welcome addition to the collection.
Did you consider though, the quality that you received probably happened as a result of many years worth of people (both collectors and manufacturers) discussing how things should properly appear in 1/400 scale? This is done through comparisons and discussing the application of what's possible in this scale. To simply say, "wow, I got mine and it looks great" without giving respect to the reflective process and how your model ended up looking so good is pretty short sighted.

It's too bad that admitting something isn't right, or isn't as good as it could be is so hard for some people to do without name calling and passive aggressive sarcasm. Everyone who does a job is subject to criticism. It is what determines the worth of the work, and thus the price we pay. The price we now pay, is nowadays, quite high. So the judgement is fairly high as well. It's not complicated.
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That statement is a load of bollocks and you know it. We are all here to look for feedback and ideas. It's a pity some of you who have your heads so far up their anuses that you can't see that.
Completely uncalled for Andrew! That statement is true, as I have sent you all the references required for specific models, yet either you don't pass them to your factory or they don't pay attention to them and screw them up! NG take note and act on information fed to them.
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I won't even comment on that statement Adrian, at risk of ruining the friendship between us!
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Going to ignore the stuff above. Thought it’d be a little more chill on here.

Anyways, the NG TriStar looks like a real nice product, and may have to pick one up for fun. I like retros every once in a while
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Why hasn't a PSA Tristar been made yet? I remember NG confirming its release before they made a single one. Is it because of that underbelly protection thingy that gave additional surface area incase of a belly landing?
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Why hasn't a PSA Tristar been made yet? I remember NG confirming its release before they made a single one. Is it because of that underbelly protection thingy that gave additional surface area incase of a belly landing?
AeroClassics made 2 PSA L-1011s, N10112 & N10114, both beauties!! Although they were great sellers, one can be found on Ebay from time to time for a reasonable price!
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Why hasn't a PSA Tristar been made yet? I remember NG confirming its release before they made a single one. Is it because of that underbelly protection thingy that gave additional surface area incase of a belly landing?
Not sure whether the PSA L-1011 was actually announced or just evaluated for release - but let’s wait and see what’s coming around. The PSA L-1011 is one tough option to do, a longer wait maybe bring us an outstanding model of it in return. The PSA TriStar requires additional markings and the protective fairing under the forward belly - and I somehow don’t believe NG would do it by just printing the structure in the proper position. I might be mistaken but... who knows...!?
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We’re forgetting that NG also have production problems with the polished finish on their L-1011, delaying many of these classics. They did compromise with that Air Transat o/c release however, by giving it a silver painted belly finish for what should have been polished. They could have easily opted for a pale grey belly version there and had it accurate, rather than compromised. Indeed the PSA example would require the “canoe” which could be 3D printed. The Honeywell 757 was made, so don’t see why this subject couldn’t either, in full detail. The QC just needs to stay in check! Also importantly, NG have gone to the trouble of adding the early RB211-22 engine variant as seen with the Court Line pair, sporting the longer afterbody/exhaust cones, and thrust-spoiler detail. An amazing effort of detail on their part. This extra add-on in their inventory has already set up the possibility for a PSA, early TWA & Saudia delivery variants etc.
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We’re forgetting that NG also have production problems with the polished finish on their L-1011, delaying many of these classics. They did compromise with that Air Transat o/c release however, by giving it a silver painted belly finish for what should have been polished. They could have easily opted for a pale grey belly version there and had it accurate, rather than compromised. Indeed the PSA example would require the “canoe” which could be 3D printed. The Honeywell 757 was made, so don’t see why this subject couldn’t either, in full detail. The QC just needs to stay in check! Also importantly, NG have gone to the trouble of adding the early RB211-22 engine variant as seen with the Court Line pair, sporting the longer afterbody/exhaust cones, and thrust-spoiler detail. An amazing effort of detail on their part. This extra add-on in their inventory has already set up the possibility for a PSA, early TWA & Saudia delivery variants etc.
By the way, are there any news concerning the polished metal metal problem and/or the reason for these problems?

The protective fairing on the PSA L-1011‘s forward belly can be done easily these days. I think it’s rather a matter of attaching it firmly and forever to the fuselage in this small scale. Depending on the material used, it can be difficult to add spikes or something. But as you said, it can be done. A modified engine exhaust/thrust reverser would be a great detail, albeit (probably) not a must for me in this scale.
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By the way, are there any news concerning the polished metal metal problem and/or the reason for these problems?

The protective fairing on the PSA L-1011‘s forward belly can be done easily these days. I think it’s rather a matter of attaching it firmly and forever to the fuselage in this small scale. Depending on the material used, it can be difficult to add spikes or something. But as you said, it can be done. A modified engine exhaust/thrust reverser would be a great detail, albeit (probably) not a must for me in this scale.

Not heard anything further on that issue, or why it is specifically affecting that mould, other than that NG have said they will continue with further TriStar releases from June, after the 2nd factory begins production. Hopefully it might mean the resolution of that problem as well.

The modified -22 engines and thrust spoiler are already here on the NG Court Line pair:

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ml#post2788886

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ml#post2788890

...so there's no reason why these features can't make an appearance again on future early subject releases, PSA included...
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Not heard anything further on that issue, or why it is specifically affecting that mould, other than that NG have said they will continue with further TriStar releases from June, after the 2nd factory begins production. Hopefully it might mean the resolution of that problem as well.

The modified -22 engines and thrust spoiler are already here on the NG Court Line pair:

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https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ml#post2788890

...so there's no reason why these features can't make an appearance again on future early subject releases, PSA included...
Indeed. I was so much thinking of the other brands‘ L-1011 releases, I simply forgot NG‘s modified RB.211-22 engine. Thanks for waking me up. ;-)

We‘ll see if NG is going to resume the release of new (polished) L-1011 models after June, I would much appreciate more vintage (and delivery!) schemes.
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Indeed. I was so much thinking of the other brands‘ L-1011 releases, I simply forgot NG‘s modified RB.211-22 engine. Thanks for waking me up. ;-)

We‘ll see if NG is going to resume the release of new (polished) L-1011 models after June, I would much appreciate more vintage (and delivery!) schemes.
Very welcome. It's a great thing that they've covered the early RB.211-22 detail, it brings a lot of possibilities. It'll be very interesting to see what lies ahead, I think many collectors are hanging for those vintage classics, definitely hoping for more delivery examples! Polished belly delivery TAP, polished Eastern just among the few...an Aero Peru example would also be amazing
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Very welcome. It's a great thing that they've covered the early RB.211-22 detail, it brings a lot of possibilities. It'll be very interesting to see what lies ahead, I think many collectors are hanging for those vintage classics, definitely hoping for more delivery examples! Polished belly delivery TAP, polished Eastern just among the few...an Aero Peru example would also be amazing
Indeed, there’s a long list of opportunities that can be done. Of course, it depends on how much can be sold on the market. Recently, I have seen the Aero Peru TriStar announced by El Aviador Models from South America in 1/200 scale, including extended engine exhaust (it was the PSA aircraft, so this would be the second (later) engine option for PSA as well), protective fairing on the forward belly and so on. Looks absolutely gorgeous. Inflight’s revised L-1011 mould boosted possibilities in 1/200 again, and I am pretty sure some of these achievements will be transferred to the 1/400 scale as well.
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Did you consider though, the quality that you received probably happened as a result of many years worth of people (both collectors and manufacturers) discussing how things should properly appear in 1/400 scale? This is done through comparisons and discussing the application of what's possible in this scale. To simply say, "wow, I got mine and it looks great" without giving respect to the reflective process and how your model ended up looking so good is pretty short sighted.

It's too bad that admitting something isn't right, or isn't as good as it could be is so hard for some people to do without name calling and passive aggressive sarcasm. Everyone who does a job is subject to criticism. It is what determines the worth of the work, and thus the price we pay. The price we now pay, is nowadays, quite high. So the judgement is fairly high as well. It's not complicated.
At no point did I indicate such a lack of respect! I am, in fact, one of NG's biggest supporters and am grateful for the community constantly pushing the hobby further in terms of accuracy and details. My point was that "Dacrometer" measuring, as Crownvic pointed out, just gets to be a little tired and I can understand a manufacturer getting exhausted with a never-ending amount of excrutiating nitpicking.

As far as how I am to act when I get a new model: "Short sighted?" Come on, give me a break. I just want to unbox a new model, enjoy it (provided that no wings fall out), and put it on my shelf to look at and continue to enjoy. I'll gladly skip the part where I ponder and reflect on the decades of improvement that went into the thing and pay my respects to the diecast trailblazers. I mean, seriously, who does this?

Your analysis of my post, as well as how you say one is to act (or not to act) upon receiving a new model, is about as complicated and overanalyzed as much of the nitpicking that I am talking about.
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I just want to unbox a new model, enjoy it (provided that no wings fall out), and put it on my shelf to look at and continue to enjoy.
That's the issue. Some of us have been collecting a long time. The hobby is very different now from what it once was. It's a lot more expensive too (not good). It's pricing people out of the hobby (not good). Models from certain manufactures are also regularly falling apart (not good) and are frequently worse than they once were with some obvious exceptions. In the last 2 months, I've bought about 12 models. Nearly half have arrived with issues. Broken gears, separated wings causing chipped paint, crooked cheat lines, and other lazy detailing that are being sold and marketed to me at premium prices.

If you can't see that there are some very observable differences in models that are being released on a monthly basis, then you are a contributor to the mindless consumerism that perpetuates these constantly broken or poorly made models. As I've said before, it is JUST a hobby, and I do my best not to take it too seriously. But it's a hobby I'm passionate about. I'm happy to defend that.

Look, nothing personal. People being nonchalant IN A CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON MODEL QUALITY ticks me off. I don't like coughing up 45-55+ bucks for a lemon. I have no problem as a consumer voicing that, especially knowing the associates that run the companies read around here. If they don't like the criticism, they shouldn't be in the business of making high detailed models, right? Being observant and spending accordingly is the only real power I have as a collector. Voting with my dollar. So, in a forum dedicated to discussing models, I'm happy to go over things with a fine toothed comb and to try and convince others to do the same in the name of better models.
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That's the issue. Some of us have been collecting a long time. The hobby is very different now from what it once was. It's a lot more expensive too (not good). It's pricing people out of the hobby (not good). Models from certain manufactures are also regularly falling apart (not good) and are frequently worse than they once were with some obvious exceptions. In the last 2 months, I've bought about 12 models. Nearly half have arrived with issues. Broken gears, separated wings causing chipped paint, crooked cheat lines, and other lazy detailing that are being sold and marketed to me at premium prices.

If you can't see that there are some very observable differences in models that are being released on a monthly basis, then you are a contributor to the mindless consumerism that perpetuates these constantly broken or poorly made models. As I've said before, it is JUST a hobby, and I do my best not to take it too seriously. But it's a hobby I'm passionate about. I'm happy to defend that.

Look, nothing personal. People being nonchalant IN A CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON MODEL QUALITY ticks me off. I don't like coughing up 45-55+ bucks for a lemon. I have no problem as a consumer voicing that, especially knowing the associates that run the companies read around here. If they don't like the criticism, they shouldn't be in the business of making high detailed models, right? Being observant and spending accordingly is the only real power I have as a collector. Voting with my dollar. So, in a forum dedicated to discussing models, I'm happy to go over things with a fine toothed comb and to try and convince others to do the same in the name of better models.
Amen and amen!

I own close to 1100 1:400 diecast models and have been collecting for around ten years. We are being asked to fork over more and more money for models. We absolutely are right to insist that those models are of high quality and arrive intact without parts falling out!

Indeed, being observant and spending accordingly is EXACTLY our power as collectors. No, I 'm not paying $50 for a model with bad printing, significant research errors, and very off colors. Yes, I'm going to discuss models online here with others.

I buy fewer models than I used to, in part because prices have gone up so much. But there are models I would buy even at current prices that I do not, because their errors and other issues are too significant. I expect that manufacturers will do what it takes to get competent factory staff to make sure colors and research are right, models are properly assembled, and that they will spend enough pennies on glue for models to stay together.

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My latest detailed review takes a look at the new BCal 747 from Aeroclassics and compares it to the original Gemini version. Is it better and if so, by how much? Let's take a look:

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Metal belly did it for me, I bought it.
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...Having said that the Gemini G-HUGE version has the wrong engines entirely as it sports JT9s rather than the correct CF6s...

I'm a bit confused here. Which GJ model do your pictures show then? I see what could be considered CF6-50 on both model's pictures.


I still can't believe how low Aeroclassics standards have fallen when I look at their recent 747s. I mean, the BCal again has the corogard running right through the flap track fairings and the wing's leading edge detailing is just random and really really bad IMO. BB400 (and AC) did this a LOT better almost two decades ago!
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I still can't believe how low Aeroclassics standards have fallen when I look at their recent 747s. I mean, the BCal again has the corogard running right through the flap track fairings and the wing's leading edge detailing is just random and really really bad IMO. BB400 (and AC) did this a LOT better almost two decades ago!
I DISTINCTLY remember you pointing this out a month or two ago. Yet, Aeroclassics does nothing different. No ownership of the issue and no willingness to improve whatsoever. Such a shame.
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I DISTINCTLY remember you pointing this out a month or two ago. Yet, Aeroclassics does nothing different. No ownership of the issue and no willingness to improve whatsoever. Such a shame.

Forgot to mention that grey pylons with bare engine nacelles is a rather strange sight on a 747. I think I too pointed this out on the Varig already.
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Agreed. Pylons look pretty bare metal to me...

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I'm a bit confused here. Which GJ model do your pictures show then? I see what could be considered CF6-50 on both model's pictures.


I still can't believe how low Aeroclassics standards have fallen when I look at their recent 747s. I mean, the BCal again has the corogard running right through the flap track fairings and the wing's leading edge detailing is just random and really really bad IMO. BB400 (and AC) did this a LOT better almost two decades ago!
You're right I looked at the engines quickly compared them to photos and mistook the point out the back for the Pratts. The shape of the Gemini engines exhaust stage is just completely wrong.

Whereas as I stated in the review the front of the Aeroclassics nacelle is awful.

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You are also correct about the flap tracks. I had remembered that but it got lost in the final edit!
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Still waiting for my G-GLYN to arrive, but it will not be replacing my GJ G-HUGE! It will be joining it. Aside from the contrasting lower fuselage treatment, they both represent two completely different machines that BCAL had in their fleet. For this reason, I’d be surprised if anyone actually replaced their GJ version. The apparent difference in the application of the titles is another contrasting detail. I remember the points Phantom made as well. Did they change how the corroguard detail is applied I wonder? It looks to be sprayed on, which would be faster and easier in the factory. Unlikely then that they would spend time touching up the details by hand afterwards, and they’re too fiddly to mask out for spraying. Maybe back in the day it was pad printed, which means a template was used that had cut-outs for the flap-track fairings.
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Still waiting for my G-GLYN to arrive, but it will not be replacing my GJ G-HUGE! It will be joining it. Aside from the contrasting lower fuselage treatment, they both represent two completely different machines that BCAL had in their fleet. For this reason, I’d be surprised if anyone actually replaced their GJ version. The apparent difference in the application of the titles is another contrasting detail. I remember the points Phantom made as well. Did they change how the corroguard detail is applied I wonder? It looks to be sprayed on, which would be faster and easier in the factory. Unlikely then that they would spend time touching up the details by hand afterwards, and they’re too fiddly to mask out for spraying. Maybe back in the day it was pad printed, which means a template was used that had cut-outs for the flap-track fairings.
Looks as if AC dramatically "optimised" (as in: costs) production. Corogard and wing leading edges only roughly sprayed on, pylons left in the color the wing comes in instead of correctly painting them. And all this for a hefty price tag.
As much as I loved collecting AC back when they were great, I wonder how these things really find their takers today.
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Recently received my NGM 747SPs: PanAm from ezToys, and Amereican Airlines from Waffle Collectables. Both arrived in perfect condition, and both had evidences that they had been checked by the retailers before shipping. And, in particular, might I call the AA model perfect? It is, Doug
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Looks as if AC dramatically "optimised" (as in: costs) production. Corogard and wing leading edges only roughly sprayed on, pylons left in the color the wing comes in instead of correctly painting them. And all this for a hefty price tag.
As much as I loved collecting AC back when they were great, I wonder how these things really find their takers today.
Yeah it's a shame these finishing details are being left out and it all points to a cost-cutting/time-saving exercise, however despite this I have still been enjoying these releases immensely. So, I'm one of those takers! Despite their shortcomings these have been selling out super quick. Using my modelling skills I might fix them up one day. They are sitting very nicely with my other 2003-2008 era BB/AC 747 models, which I will never let go of.

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Nice one. Got my Qantas pair and delayed American SP's too and all are in perfect order, my retailer checked mine as well which is decent.
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Sorry to ask this as it may have been mentioned already. But does anyone have an opinion on the Phoenix B747-200 mould. I'm thinking of ordering the latest QFA release, Thanks.
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It's awful I would avoid it unless you are super desperate for it. Here was a review I did of one a few years ago - I scored the mould a 5, which was quite generous:

https://modelairliner.com/uni-top-boeing-747/
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Yeah it's a shame these finishing details are being left out and it all points to a cost-cutting/time-saving exercise, however despite this I have still been enjoying these releases immensely. So, I'm one of those takers! Despite their shortcomings these have been selling out super quick. Using my modelling skills I might fix them up one day. They are sitting very nicely with my other 2003-2008 era BB/AC 747 models, which I will never let go of.


Nice one. Got my Qantas pair and delayed American SP's too and all are in perfect order, my retailer checked mine as well which is decent.
Who did you get them through if I may ask?
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It's awful I would avoid it unless you are super desperate for it. Here was a review I did of one a few years ago - I scored the mould a 5, which was quite generous:

https://modelairliner.com/uni-top-boeing-747/

Thanks for the advice. Think I will hold off in the hope NG will reward us eventually.
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Okay cool. I'm glad to hear it wasn't a UK retailer. We are the last and the slowest to receive models and I really cant understand why?!!
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Old 05-16-2021, 08:01 AM   #350 (permalink)
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Okay cool. I'm glad to hear it wasn't a UK retailer. We are the last and the slowest to receive models and I really cant understand why?!!
No worries. Overall, I've found buying my models from overseas retailers faster, more competitive and more reliable.
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