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Aerolineas Argentinas B 737-8MAX LV-HKU -
Kenya Airways DC-9-30 5Y-BBR -
Korean Air DC-9-30 HL7201 -
Midwest Express DC-9-30 N206ME -
Ozark Air Lines DC-9-30 N988Z -
United Airlines B 737-9MAX N67501 -
Avianca Colombia A321-200 N759AV -
Avianca Central America A321-200 N570TA -
Avianca Central America A321-200 N692AV -
Frontier Airlines A320-200 N317FR -
Frontier Airlines A320-200 N318FR -
Frontier Airlines A320-200 N323FR -
Thai Lion Air B 737-9MAX HS-LSH -
AeroPeru B 727-200 OB-1573 -
AeroPeru B 727-200 OB-1590 -
Mexicana B 727-200 XA-HON - (AEROPERÚ hybrid)
AeroCaribe DC-9-30 XA-ABQ -
Alaska Airlines A321-200 N928VA -
Lufthansa A321-200 D-AISP -
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Ordered the trio of AeroPerú 727s! I've been looking forward to at least one of these 727s, but here we get three! Thanks AC!
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Looks like the Max 9 is the new mould. I will be ordering the Alaska.

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I ordered five models: Ozark, Korean, Kenya, and Midwest Express DC-9's, and an AeroPeru 727.

Neat historical note: while checking the Korean DC-9 against photos online, I found out that HL7201 was the first aircraft flown by Korean Air Lines (the "Korean Airlines" variant spelling is correct). This appears to be one of at least three livery variations that KAL painted on this aircraft.

Excellent selection of periods, types, and schemes this month. You can never have too many DC-9's and 727's. Love the Ozark and Midwest Express!

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So no Tu134 mould. So disappointed, especially compounded by the fact that Retro Models was just about to pay for a Tu134 mould but were informed (by someone, not necessarily Aero Classics) that AC's were doing the 134 imminently.

Retro must have cancelled that project based on more than tittle-tattle hopefully.
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Nice medley this month. Good mix of retro and modern. It's Going to be an expensive month for me. Lufthansa, Midwest Express, Aero Peru, Frontier Ram, Alaska, United, Aero Caribe. Good work, Klink!
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So no Tu134 mould. So disappointed, especially compounded by the fact that Retro Models was just about to pay for a Tu134 mould but were informed (by someone, not necessarily Aero Classics) that AC's were doing the 134 imminently.

Retro must have cancelled that project based on more than tittle-tattle hopefully.
'Imminently' doesn't necessarily mean released this month, if in fact it's true?
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I haven't heard of any new moulds being developed by Aeroclassics this year besides the 757 and today's new unveiled 737-9MAX. I wouldn't hold my breath on this one (Tu-134). Please keep in mind it takes a long time and a lot of money to develop a new mould. $15-20K from initial development to use.
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A very expensive month for me, ordered:
Frontier(3), AeroPeru(1), AeroCaribe, Midwest, Ozark, Alaska, United.
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Aeroperu 727's for sure, I'll wait for JC/Gemini to do a 739M mould, still not impressed with the AC 737 Max mould.
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I haven't heard of any new moulds being developed by Aeroclassics this year besides the 757 and today's new unveiled 737-9MAX. I wouldn't hold my breath on this one (Tu-134). Please keep in mind it takes a long time and a lot of money to develop a new mould. $15-20K from initial development to use.
Absolutely, its not my money that is spent and AC's haven't announced anything about a 134. I am basing my disappointment on what Retro Models said, that isn't AC's fault. But he said they have cancelled paying for a 134 mould simply because ACs were doing it.

It would in fact really surprise me if Andrew had the 134 in his plans at all.
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Why would you cancel your only mould at such a late stage of development and walk away just because someone else allegedly says they're doing it ? The whole thing reeks of BS I'm afraid. Whether or not a Tu-134 appears or not remains to be seen, my money's on not.
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Aeroperu 727's for sure, I'll wait for JC/Gemini to do a 739M mould, still not impressed with the AC 737 Max mould.
Considering you, or anyone else for that matter, haven't even seen the 737 MAX 9 mould, your comment seems odd, at the very least, and probably driven by an ulterior agenda.

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As for the Ty-134 rumor, it is just that, a rumor!!
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Thx for clarifying position Andrew.
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Aeroperu and Alaska ordered.
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United and Lufthansa ordered!

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Great to see the DC9 moulds back in use. Haven’t ordered anything yet, but I’m considering the Ozark and Midwest Express.

Too bad the Ozark wasn’t made with a tail number of one of the particularly-rare DC-9-34’s.
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Phew! Hopefully, too busy working on an L1011 and/or 767-200
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When was the last time GJ used their 767-200 mould? Must be years.
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When was the last time GJ used their 767-200 mould? Must be years.
Last used in 2013. Given GJ’s continued commitment towards producing Emirates A380’s and nothing else, I doubt it’ll ever be used again.
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Nice releases but nothing for me this month, hoping for more classic DC-10s and of course a nice accurate L-1011
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Great to see the DC9 moulds back in use. Haven’t ordered anything yet, but I’m considering the Ozark and Midwest Express.

Too bad the Ozark wasn’t made with a tail number of one of the particularly-rare DC-9-34’s.

Phew! Hopefully, too busy working on an L1011 and/or 767-200
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Or a proper B.757-200 with effective worldwide appeal and distribution!!
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Nice to see the DC-9 back, with interesting liveries. Nothing else for me, I'm afraid, Ac has been kind to my wallet lately.



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Or a proper B.757-200 with effective worldwide appeal and distribution!!
Just as a competitor is releasing a new 757-200... Or maybe
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Why would you cancel your only mould at such a late stage of development and walk away just because someone else allegedly says they're doing it ? The whole thing reeks of BS I'm afraid. Whether or not a Tu-134 appears or not remains to be seen, my money's on not.
What 'late stage of development'? It was only under consideration!
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I was thrilled with the DC-9s this month. Can’t wait to get my grubby little fingers on my order arriving tomorrow.
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Considering you, or anyone else for that matter, haven't even seen the 737 MAX 9 mould, your comment seems odd, at the very least, and probably driven by an ulterior agenda.

Yea, my agenda is to wait for someone else to produce a 739M mould. If yours is just a re-hash of the 738M mould then I have a pretty good idea of what we're in for. Jesus, calm down and learn how to take criticism. This is just a hobby.

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"Jesus, calm down and learn how to take criticism. This is just a hobby." In Andrew Klein's case, it is, and isn't just a hobby. He is a hobbyist among us, an avid collector, but also a manufacturer who takes pride in his products, does not suffer criticism, and defends his work adamantly. Aeroclassics are often the best examples available, but not always. Doug
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"Jesus, calm down and learn how to take criticism. This is just a hobby." In Andrew Klein's case, it is, and isn't just a hobby. He is a hobbyist among us, an avid collector, but also a manufacturer who takes pride in his products, does not suffer criticism, and defends his work adamantly. Aeroclassics are often the best examples available, but not always. Doug
I'm not out to bash the guy, Doug, I like a lot of AC products, especially 727,F28, and 732/733 models. However, I made my criticism known about the 737Max and I'm not going to to back away from it either.
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TinCanFlier: 'I made my criticism known about the 737Max and I'm not going to to back away from it either." No intention of blunting your criticism. I have the Gemini Jets (JC Wings) Soutwest B737-8MAX model, and don't think much of it, although some like it. Add to the mix Phoenix and Panda versions, and you have a number of choices. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Doug
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What 'late stage of development'? It was only under consideration!
I'm getting mixed up with the Tu-104 mould project on this occasion.
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Hopefully!!
Or a proper B.757-200 with effective worldwide appeal and distribution!!

I'm really hoping that this might be a reference to the L-1011 Not that I'd not want AC to produce a decent 752 either, if we had both - then great! But if it was either one or the other at the moment...sorry but I'd have to put the L-1011 first. After all these years, to finally have a definitive interpretation of this classic airliner in 1:400 would be simply fantastic. And if it came from AC, we could be sure that all the classics we want would be done


In fact the very thought that we might be getting one overwhelms me with excitement - it's things like this that keep me in this hobby. I'll continue to be patient.
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My AeroPerú 727-200 trio has arrived. They are lovely! The blue is a tad lighter than my DC-10 but overall they are done to a high standard.

OB-1590



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They are a welcome addition to my now not so lonely DC-10





Now if only NGmodels would produce a 757 in the same scheme I would be happy as a pig in mud.
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Nice 727 set and hopefully I get mine too. I must admit I didn't recognise the upside down Apple logo and first and thought you'd recreated some sort of fluid spill !
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Wow they're lovely Canopy, very nice set of models
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The AeruPeru DC-10 has been on my list for a while. A 757 would indeed look great with those models!!

Crazy week for me, it may take some time to get all my photos taken and up. But I had to get this one posted: Ozark DC-9-30 N988Z. This is the kind of model that is the glory of Aeroclassics. This model is a fantastic addition, and it's perfectly rendered. Thank you, Andrew!!


Aeroclassics Ozark DC-9-30 N988Z 60's-70's livery Front 3/4
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I'm really hoping that this might be a reference to the L-1011 Not that I'd not want AC to produce a decent 752 either, if we had both - then great! But if it was either one or the other at the moment...sorry but I'd have to put the L-1011 first. After all these years, to finally have a definitive interpretation of this classic airliner in 1:400 would be simply fantastic. And if it came from AC, we could be sure that all the classics we want would be done


In fact the very thought that we might be getting one overwhelms me with excitement - it's things like this that keep me in this hobby. I'll continue to be patient.
A TriStar would undoubtedly be welcome, as would a 757 - but at least both have been done, though ACs of course would more than likely improve the mould.

Still much prefer some classic Russian airliners that are entirely missing though, I think most European collectors would, but I guess on the American and perhaps the Asian continent too, there would be far less demand and herein lies the problem sadly.
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Midwest Express DC-9-30 N206ME. Beautiful, rich color.


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AeroPeru 727-200 OB-1590.


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Korean Air Lines DC-9-30 HL7201.


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Kenya Airways DC-9-32 5Y-BBR. National carriers, an Aeroclassics specialty, and the usual beautiful polished-metal underbelly.


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Excellent pictures, really fancying the Midwest Express.
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A TriStar would undoubtedly be welcome, as would a 757 - but at least both have been done, though ACs of course would more than likely improve the mould.

Still much prefer some classic Russian airliners that are entirely missing though, I think most European collectors would, but I guess on the American and perhaps the Asian continent too, there would be far less demand and herein lies the problem sadly.

They've both been done but not yet perfected. In the case of the L-1011, the DW version followed up much later on by the very short-lived, all-metal AV400 version were the best representation we've had so far in 1:400 in my opinion. And many previously unreleased colour schemes were not 'nailed' either - as the dodgy Blue Box jumped in and did a decent job of mucking them up and the L-1011 iteself in 1:400 altogether, leaving us where we are today.

Back then an old DAC-user by the name of 'L-1011-Heavy' (Who Wrote Every Word With A Capital Lol) fought hard to get us an accurate TriStar produced, with his knowledge and attention to detail, against the Blue Box 'invasion' When I began collecting 1:400 back in 2007, I had no idea about any of this (wasn't involved with forums etc. back then), I picked up 2 BBX BA Red Tail L-1011s but was instantly disappointed that the colours and fonts were all wrong, so have never been a real part of my collection. I'm actually selling them now. AC is the best chance for an accurate mould (they nailed the DC-10) and for all the classics to be done, and hopefully done well (BA Red Tails & Landor etc). The AV400 mould would be the next best alternative otherwise, but a compromise...

I agree on the missing Russian classics as well but as you say, most likely the bulk of the interest comes from European collectors - the appeal might not be broad enough. Another niche area that may not be filled

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Nice looking models Jim! Thanks for sharing.
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Jim - nice looking flock of DC-9s. Thanx, Doug
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You're welcome, Doug and Andy! These are terrific models, of just the kind I want to see lots of--70's, 80's, and 90's classics. Aeroclassics' DC-9-30 mould, like the DC-10 mould, is especially good. So I want to encourage others to get them, too.

Andy, I agree that Aeroclassics especially nailed the DC-10. That mould has held up really well over the years--shape, and fineness of wings and stabs. The DC-10 is one of the most elegant aircraft ever made, which doesn't hurt, either!

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Jim, they are fantastic releases. I have a bit of an easier ride due to my very specific collecting criteria (LHR 1975-1985) which dictates the models I buy. Makes it a bit easier on my wallet! Space restrictions are also another key reason, too. A couple of exceptions are an Alaska SMA 732, 80s colours, as I really, really like that scheme; and an AC Ansett 721, 70s colours, because my other half is Aussie and I get nostalgic about that But I love to see anything 70s-80s, and some 90s, in 1:400. This recent flurry from AC is no exception. Good to see them being made for collectors to enjoy I don't have any DC-9s yet. One that I am looking for is an AC or SMAC KLM Blue Top DC-9, to start off with. I'm sure they were visitors to Heathrow.


The AC DC-10 mould still looks fantastic today and it's great that we've been seeing more classic releases on it. They really did nail it and this lies behind my faith that they could do the same for the L-1011. The DC-10 was a beautiful airliner. Partner it with an equally beautiful L-1011 = 1:400 heaven!!
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Thank you ROCman for the photos. Excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me if the Aero Peru 727s ever flew routes to the United States? Seems as thought they had a 757 that made the trip...

Glad to see a good batch of classics! I'm not high on anything before the 1990s but these look nice. Is it just me or are the prices on some of these creeping a bit higher lately? My main retailer is Waffle, I don't think I've seen too many DC-9s for $38 USD!
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Thank you ROCman for the photos. Excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me if the Aero Peru 727s ever flew routes to the United States? Seems as thought they had a 757 that made the trip...

Glad to see a good batch of classics! I'm not high on anything before the 1990s but these look nice. Is it just me or are the prices on some of these creeping a bit higher lately? My main retailer is Waffle, I don't think I've seen too many DC-9s for $38 USD!
You're welcome! Do you shop at Waffle regularly? He has discount codes for regular buyers, so you don't pay $38 for a DC-9. He's also the only retailer I know who offers a cheaper first-class shipping option; narrowbodies and even smaller widebodies (anything under 12 oz, I think is the USPS weight) can be under $10 to ship. Small narrowbodies can be as little as $4.50 to ship. Order the narrowbodies one-by-one to get the lower shipping cost.

I would not buy as many models as I do without such cost-saving options.

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July's Aeroclassics have arrived. A decent batch this month. I think the Kenya DC-9's cockpit is a little low but it's not a biggie:


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You're welcome! Do you shop at Waffle regularly? He has discount codes for regular buyers, so you don't pay $38 for a DC-9. He's also the only retailer I know who offers a cheaper first-class shipping option; narrowbodies and even smaller widebodies (anything under 12 oz, I think is the USPS weight) can be under $10 to ship. Small narrowbodies can be as little as $4.50 to ship. Order the narrowbodies one-by-one to get the lower shipping cost.

I would not buy as many models as I do without such cost-saving options.

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Agreed! I give Waffle close to 90% (or more of my business) because of those incentives. My comment was more focused on the fact that it used to be only heavy's and wide bodies costing that much. I think those DC-9s just went up a few bucks, the Northwest Orient DC-9-50s that came out last year were only 36.00. (Trade wars anyone)

Nice batch there Richard. Who doesn't enjoy a colorful bunch of "T tails?"
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