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Old 01-01-2018, 03:10 PM   #1
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It looks like it’s been a few years since this topic has been covered, so I’m wondering what developments might have occurred in the last few years. I used to collect widebodies in 1:400 and narrowbodies in 1:200, but the 200s take up too much space, so I’m now adding more smaller models to my 1/400th fleet.

Previously the smallest 1:400s available were both Geminis: the Short 360 ‘Shed’, which I already have, and the Saab 340 which I only have in 1/200th. Do you know of anything smaller, or similar in size to my existing minis? My smallest 1:400s are also Geminis except the BAe146:
— KLM Fokker 70 PH-KZU in Farewell Fokker livery;
— Cebu Pacific ATR-72 RP-C7280;
— British Caledonian Shorts 360 ‘Shed’ G-BKZR – a favourite;
— Jersey European BAe 146-100 G-JEAT by Jet-X.

I’d love to get a Short Skyvan to complement the Shed, and am particularly interested in a DHC-6 Twin Otter; I flew on a Pacific Sun version in Fiji years ago, but can’t find anything in their livery. Do you know of any Cessnas, Pipers, Britten-Normans or Bizjets in 1/400th?

This guy’s selling 3D-printed Cessna Skyhawks and Grand Caravans, which appear to be about an inch long, but they’re completely grey with no decals, livery etc: maybe there’s a gap in the market for supplying 3D-printed models with decals?
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/prin...l+Aircraft&s=0
There are also Beechcrafts, Gulfstreams etc on that page; have you ever seen any of these in 1:400?
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:57 PM   #2
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I think the Saab is still the smallest mass produced commercial plane. I am guessing it's too much work to make smaller planes vs. the potential small sales return. Personally I prefer the smaller aircraft because I can collect more.
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Planes I would say SAAB and 1:400 in general either people or GSE.
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SAAB appears to be the smallest, although the shed and the DC3 come close.
I have a couple of the 3D printed Beech 1900D and can say they are excellent quality. Caveat is they need assembling & painting/detailing as they come supplied as a 'kit' of parts. Note that the pic you have supplied is of 3D computer renders, the actual parts are in a transparent/translucent plastic and actually seem to have finer detail. I have yet to build mine although I have sourced some decals for the all-over black Air New Zealand special scheme for one of them.
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That's really interesting, Tu114. I do like the All Black livery, and think it would look great on a bizjet.
It would be interesting to see how you get on with your Beechcrafts. I don't know anything about 3D-printing, but wonder how long it is before they can produce an accurate 3D 'photocopy' complete with livery!

PS: Is your profile pic the JAL-leased 114? I'm more of an Antonov man myself, but can't resist turboprops and a polished belly from behind the old curtain.
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I haven't started with the 1900Ds yet and there is a note of caution. The plastic appears to be light sensitive (presumably not a problem once painted). I checked on the bits recently and the translucent plastic has gone cloudy & opaque in places. I just hope this change does not have an effect on the structural properties of the plastic!
I'll get round to them eventually. It has been over 20 years since I did any kit bashing and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I'm currently practicing on some 1/72.

Yes, my profile pic is indeed one of the JAL code-share Rossiyas. (see below)
I'd sell certain intimate body parts to get a decent one in 1:400!
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I would love more small airliners, in fact I like them more than all these big A330s or B777s. Unfortunately the Saab 340 has been mostly used for main US carriers releases, which is not my main interest. C'mon, bring an AF at least !
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Ty-114: I really love those navigator cockpits; I'd much rather sit there on any flight rather than in first class!

Mystère: I agree as you don't see many American Saabs at airports round here! We used to have Continental 757s at Bristol, but now no American carriers at all. Maybe the European models get snapped up more quickly so that American ones end up clogging up the market. However I just did a search on Google Images for Gemini 400 Saab 340, and amongst the usual crowd were the following; I'm hopefully receiving the Finn one on Friday:
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I've got a bunch of the 3d printed models. my smallest one is the beech king air. Yeah its grey but that just means you need to do a little work and paint them yourself. Or you can message one of the decal producers out there to print off some decals for them.
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My little commuter hanger. Although a bit bigger I like the ATR42 more than the Saab.

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That is brilliant, Ttakata!
I love the perspective effect in the background imagery, especially inside the ATR hangar.
And the aircraft name tags — how were they made?
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My smallest 1:400 is a Fed Ex shorts 360 made by Gemini
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Shame that die-cast Skyvans aren't available.
I can only find one photo online of Shorts all together, which is this photo of a Short 360, Short Skyvan and Short 330 at the 1982 Farnborough Airshow:
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That is brilliant, Ttakata!
I love the perspective effect in the background imagery, especially inside the ATR hangar.
And the aircraft name tags — how were they made?
Thanks, I got lucky with the image searches off Google. It's tough to find hi-res images to use as backgrounds.

The name blocks are easy if you have a label maker. I got a free label maker with a Brother laser printer years ago and have used it for countless things including these name tags which are just stuck to 5mm square Plastruct/Evergreen tubes. I have to trim down the label height to fit the tubes though. Do a search for ABS or styrene tubes/rods at a decent hobby shop or online. A square is good to show 2 texts, but a triangular profile would be best for 1 text.
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Agree with the others, my Shorts 360s and SAAB340s are the smallest. I would love a de Havilland Heron and Britten-Norman Islander.
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Air Zimbabwe (rainbow scheme), Air Niugini.

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Yes Adrian, Britten-Norman!
I don't think they're available in any die-cast or snap-fit scale, only build kits.
Aren't they the only British civil fixed-wing airframe manufacturer left?
I'd prefer a Trilander though for quirkiness.
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