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Old 08-30-2017, 03:47 PM   #1
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A320s are everywhere nowadays but who is the king in 1/400 scale when it comes to making the popular twinjet? Here's a detailed look at the active moulds scoring each part by part:

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Brilliant comparison, however your scoring system is flawed!! By making the "out of scale" antennas a legitimate accuracy or quality category, you skewed the results against the best A-320, in favor of the mediocre, or the pirates who illegally cloned the best A-320.
I wouldn't be too proud of that!!
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Brilliant comparison, however your scoring system is flawed!! By making the "out of scale" antennas a legitimate accuracy or quality category, you skewed the results against the best A-320, in favor of the mediocre, or the pirates who illegally cloned the best A-320.
I wouldn't be too proud of that!!
I did mention your points in the summary Andrew but aerials are nowadays expected by most collectors on modern aircraft types and they can be done well as Panda (and Phoenix show). JC Wings and Gemini do them a lot less well.
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I did mention your points in the summary Andrew but aerials are nowadays expected by most collectors on modern aircraft types and they can be done well as Panda (and Phoenix show). JC Wings and Gemini do them a lot less well.
Those aerials are just a gimmick, cause they're NOT in scale, and you'd be surprised how many collectors really don't think much of them. On a widebody 1/400 scale model, maybe, but definitely not on the narrow body planes; they're just a joke!!

Once you concede that Panda illegally cloned the AC A320 tooling, and you correctly do, you shouldn't even be giving them any exposure at all; they deserve only condemnation by any fair minded person, and nothing more!! By giving them any credence at all is unfair to the entire hobby, and a slap in the face to those who worked hard to make positive contributions to the hobby, only to have some Chinese f--k illegally copy it!!
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This is the off-centered antenna of my Panda Model A330. Can someone confirm if this is the case with the real A330 please? Thanks
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Based on the scaling, that antenna is definitely oversized, and the gap surrounding it is large enough for several human hands to fit in. !!!

Like I said, 1/400 scale antennas are just a gimmick, oversized and out of scale!!
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This is the off-centered antenna of my Panda Model A330. Can someone confirm if this is the case with the real A330 please? Thanks
A quick google shows that the underside antenna is indeed off-centre.

https://cs2.gtaall.com/screenshots/4...f/210261-9.jpg

However that gap on the model is indeed awlful. Pretty much any "advancement" that some manufacturers are now offering as authentic now-a-days is just simply a gimmick. From rolling wheels (Like who pushes their models around... zoom, zoom like a 4yo??) to oversized antennas and the unbelievable "hole" that is created in the model to fit those damned antennas in the first place And now we have Phoenix Models current klutzy revival of "spinning Fan Blades" that need a tooth pick to spin?!?

Rather than all these "improvements" could we just have models with the correct colors and titles please? Maybe a little more research into the prototype including refering to actual photos than all this bullcrap that seems to grab at manu's at the moment.

And Thankyou to Richard for acknowledging PandaModels dubious background. I suspect many collectors don't actually know about the background of that company and it's great to see someone actually tell the truth about this maker. Any education is a good thing. Good work Richard..!

Sadly, at the end of the day, collectors will buy models they want, and... not really care who made it. Otherwise how in hell did Magic or Blue Box or a stack of other dubious makers actually sell their dribble? Sadly because alot of collectors only care about adding their favorate model, and not who made them in the first place.

Time to get off my soap box I guess...

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Rolling wheels are also a gimmick I would like to see go on 1:400 scale and rubber tires on all scales! If you plan on keeping your planes for a long time the rubber will deteriorate over time!
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Those aerials are just a gimmick, cause they're NOT in scale, and you'd be surprised how many collectors really don't think much of them. On a widebody 1/400 scale model, maybe, but definitely not on the narrow body planes; they're just a joke!!

Once you concede that Panda illegally cloned the AC A320 tooling, and you correctly do, you shouldn't even be giving them any exposure at all; they deserve only condemnation by any fair minded person, and nothing more!! By giving them any credence at all is unfair to the entire hobby, and a slap in the face to those who worked hard to make positive contributions to the hobby, only to have some Chinese f--k illegally copy it!!
TBH, I only came to learn about the clone works from your replies to others' threads and this could be easily missed by collectors and readers. I don't think many collectors are aware.

How about writing a detailed account of the event and I strongly recommend you to start a new thread on how this came about, and title the thread appropriately and clearly to draw readership.
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A quick google shows that the underside antenna is indeed off-centre.

https://cs2.gtaall.com/screenshots/4...f/210261-9.jpg

However that gap on the model is indeed awlful. Pretty much any "advancement" that some manufacturers are now offering as authentic now-a-days is just simply a gimmick. From rolling wheels (Like who pushes their models around... zoom, zoom like a 4yo??) to oversized antennas and the unbelievable "hole" that is created in the model to fit those damned antennas in the first place And now we have Phoenix Models current klutzy revival of "spinning Fan Blades" that need a tooth pick to spin?!?

Rather than all these "improvements" could we just have models with the correct colors and titles please? Maybe a little more research into the prototype including refering to actual photos than all this bullcrap that seems to grab at manu's at the moment.

And Thankyou to Richard for acknowledging PandaModels dubious background. I suspect many collectors don't actually know about the background of that company and it's great to see someone actually tell the truth about this maker. Any education is a good thing. Good work Richard..!

Sadly, at the end of the day, collectors will buy models they want, and... not really care who made it. Otherwise how in hell did Magic or Blue Box or a stack of other dubious makers actually sell their dribble? Sadly because alot of collectors only care about adding their favorate model, and not who made them in the first place.

Time to get off my soap box I guess...

Cheers Lou
It is painful, seeing these holes on otherwise nice fuselage.

Indeed, there are improvements which we would rather get. I'm sure you've read seen some of the images I've shared in my other thread and to date, from time to time I still get A330, be it -200 or -300, with gaping wing root or brush hair permanently glossed onto the fuselage paint works. Couldn't get the basic stuff, very basic stuff right and now they want spinners?
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Rolling wheels are also a gimmick I would like to see go on 1:400 scale and rubber tires on all scales! If you plan on keeping your planes for a long time the rubber will deteriorate over time!
Whoa, deteriorate over time? Please tell me more. Allow me to assure you but I don't go zoom, zoom like a 4yo with my models but 3 /5 of those Aeroclassics 737 classics arrived with at least one or all their rubber tyres already fallen off and I had planned to permanently glue them...today. Not happening now, waiting for more discussions on how to fix this issue.
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Does anyone know how to get in touch with Aeroclassics for spare 737 classics rubber tyres please? As mentioned, they fall off and disappear fresh out of the box!
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Does anyone know how to get in touch with Aeroclassics for spare 737 classics rubber tyres please? As mentioned, they fall off and disappear fresh out of the box!
Best to contact the dealer who sold them to you, and they can order spare parts.

FYI, the tires on AeroClassics are NOT made from rubber, but a soft PVC plastic.

Any models or toys you may have with rubber tires can be saved with a simple trick, using a q-tip, spread a layer of Vaseline Petroleum Jelly on the rubber parts, and they will last a lot longer!! Many older Corgi or Dinky cars (amongst others) may have had rubber tires.
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A quick google shows that the underside antenna is indeed off-centre.

https://cs2.gtaall.com/screenshots/4...f/210261-9.jpg

However that gap on the model is indeed awlful. Pretty much any "advancement" that some manufacturers are now offering as authentic now-a-days is just simply a gimmick. From rolling wheels (Like who pushes their models around... zoom, zoom like a 4yo??) to oversized antennas and the unbelievable "hole" that is created in the model to fit those damned antennas in the first place And now we have Phoenix Models current klutzy revival of "spinning Fan Blades" that need a tooth pick to spin?!?

Rather than all these "improvements" could we just have models with the correct colors and titles please? Maybe a little more research into the prototype including refering to actual photos than all this bullcrap that seems to grab at manu's at the moment.

And Thankyou to Richard for acknowledging PandaModels dubious background. I suspect many collectors don't actually know about the background of that company and it's great to see someone actually tell the truth about this maker. Any education is a good thing. Good work Richard..!

Sadly, at the end of the day, collectors will buy models they want, and... not really care who made it. Otherwise how in hell did Magic or Blue Box or a stack of other dubious makers actually sell their dribble? Sadly because alot of collectors only care about adding their favorate model, and not who made them in the first place.

Time to get off my soap box I guess...

Cheers Lou
Well said Lou!!

I think one will find, that Magic or Blew Bucks never sold well at all, hence the name changes!!
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Thanks for the tip Andrew and the info on the PVC. Nice to know, I hope other MFGS switch to plastic tires. Some of the older toys/collectibles I see at shows that have rubber tires are usually cracking and in bad shape...sometimes it is hard to get replacements.

Are you going to Newark Andrew?
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What no mention of Dragon Wings.

My first A-320 was a Dragon Wings Ansett model, now passed on and replaced with a Aeroclassics one.
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Thanks for the tip Andrew and the info on the PVC. Nice to know, I hope other MFGS switch to plastic tires. Some of the older toys/collectibles I see at shows that have rubber tires are usually cracking and in bad shape...sometimes it is hard to get replacements.

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Absolutely!! See you there!!
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What no mention of Dragon Wings.

My first A-320 was a Dragon Wings Ansett model, now passed on and replaced with a Aeroclassics one.
I have done a full mould review but this was just for active A320s
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