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Lightsnack87 05-15-2017 05:10 PM

What happened while I was gone?!
 
So, just to introduce myself, I have been collecting since 2007. I had consistently collected for about 5 years and sort of fell out of the routine. Right around the time Gemini released the Evergreen 747-400 and Phoenix started to release the narrow bodies (A320s and 737-8s with rolling gears and antenna). I have about 300 models give or take, so I'm no rookie, but it certainly seems like I've missed A LOT. Models now cost about $10 more than they used to. (is the just because the rolling gears and other fixtures?) Gemini appear to finally have started making Lufthansa and JC from what I've read recently is the new standard in innovation and (GASP) accuracy? Those old 777 with the "devil wing flex in a V formation" were really bad. Sorry to seem a little ignorant about all these changes but if anyone could give me a crash course on what's been happening in the hobby that's major I'd really appreciate it.

I used to be somewhat frequent on here for a while. I was the guy who Waffle sent 5 free Skymark models to one his promotions. I sure was mad. Water under the bridge now. Used the have the name Ejohn87 or something I think. Just starting out with a new name. Anyways, thank you in advance for the education!

Mauricio Leiman 05-17-2017 06:09 PM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
Welcome back!

Nowadays JC is much bigger, being in charge of all models released under the Herpa, Gemini Jets and (obviously) JC Wings
They have been making lots of new tooling over the last few years in 1:400 (E-jets, new 777, new 787, Cseries, A350) and have recently started making models with flaps down.
Also, they now own the old BigBird400 747 mould, as well as some others like the Witty/AV400 Tristar

A manufacturer called Witty Wings/Apollo showed up and started making 747s using the old BigBird mould, as well as some moulds of their own, they went bankrupt and JC seems to have bought most of their inventory

Hope I cleared some of your doubts, feel free to ask anything else!

Lightsnack87 05-17-2017 07:27 PM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
Thank you Mauricio!

Any particular reason why the prices of models have gone up so much recently? I remember when new Gemini 737s would list around 25 USD. Now they start at 35 USD plus, if you're lucky. Is this just because they all have rolling wheels and antenna fixtures now?

Also, I know Mr. Warffle who runs waffle collectables boasts his new DiMA forum is the best. To be honest I don't see much going on in the 1/400 section when I'm over there. I've always preferred DAC and Wings900. Are these the main 3 forums still or is there somewhere else all the 1/400 collectors hang out? Thanks in advance!

RStretton 05-18-2017 01:57 AM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
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Originally Posted by Lightsnack87 (Post 2375657)
Thank you Mauricio!

Any particular reason why the prices of models have gone up so much recently? I remember when new Gemini 737s would list around 25 USD. Now they start at 35 USD plus, if you're lucky. Is this just because they all have rolling wheels and antenna fixtures now?

Also, I know Mr. Warffle who runs waffle collectables boasts his new DiMA forum is the best. To be honest I don't see much going on in the 1/400 section when I'm over there. I've always preferred DAC and Wings900. Are these the main 3 forums still or is there somewhere else all the 1/400 collectors hang out? Thanks in advance!

The DiMA forum is pretty much empty aside from my posts but the database is up to date and effective, which can't be said for the wings900 one which is dead and buried.

May I humbly suggest that you check out my reviews of 2016 which go over the production and trends for the 5 biggest manufacturers:

Airline History Blog - Yesterday's Airlines

They are by the way Aeroclassics, Gemini Jets, JC Wings, Panda Models and Phoenix

I did reviews for 2015 as well:

Airline History Blog - Yesterday's Airlines

The price hikes from Gemini seem to be very cheeky and there is no real rationale behind them from what I can see. The other manufacturers prices have stayed roughly level.

The forums are nowadays a bit slow. A lot of collectors (and most younger ones certainly) have gravitated to Facebook Groups which have some really cool stuff on them. I can particularly recommend Raimond Schulz's 'As Real As It Gets' group and the 'Way Better...' group too

shandaken 05-18-2017 05:30 AM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
Price hikes come directly from wage pressure in China and shipping costs which have increased quite a bit in the past few years. One can still get a decent model for about $35 US.

Lightsnack87 05-20-2017 03:00 PM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
Richard,

I actually came across your site, yesterday's airlines and that's what has pulled me back into the hobby recently. I really appreciate your feedback and thoughtfulness regarding my questions. Regarding your site, I especially appreciated the year in review categories and mould reviews. Looking forward to enjoying your reviews and posts! I remember wanting someone to conduct quality mould reviews and manufacturer reviews for a long time. Keep them coming!

Lightsnack87 05-20-2017 03:08 PM

Re: What happened while I was gone?!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shandaken (Post 2376097)
Price hikes come directly from wage pressure in China and shipping costs which have increased quite a bit in the past few years. One can still get a decent model for about $35 US.

I can get behind that to a point, but as Richard mentioned, it seems that some manufacturers have kept their prices about the same namely Phoenix and Aeroclassics. Gemini's price and apparent Quality Control issues don't line up.

According to this theory if they are asking for more money for models, it means they need to pay employees more to fabricate scale airplanes. Which means with increased or even balanced wages, the quality should either stay the same or improve, not decline. I can also sort of make sense of the rise in price coming from the cost of shipping but again, why is it mainly one manufacturer that's increased their prices. Pretty sure all these models are coming out of China.


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