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Old 04-15-2017, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The bulk of my collection consists of Phoenix and as per my other thread (Phoenix 1/400 Issues), their quality control, or lack thereof, has prompted me to revisit Aeroclassics. However, I do not have a reliable pool to establish their standards and would appreciate the feedback from collectors like yourselves. I have also noted feedback from collectors in other threads, namely crap happens with every manufacturer thus I guess I'd like to have an idea of the extent in comparison.

My Aeroclassics collection numbered less than 10 and areas that merit attention are:

The front tyres of the front landing gear of their 737-200, 737-300 and 737-400 don't stay secure. With that said, I don't have a lot of such models from other manufacturers to compare.

The finishing of their 737-800 engine pods are somewhat terrible, both port and starboard sides. Two separate attempts, same problem... one short of a hattrick Bad batch of common with their 737-800 engine pods? These, as can be seen, are the CFM pods (sloppily) finished in white colour. I did not see these problems in the silvery PW pods.

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences and views.

I will attach two separate batches of images, issues from my first purchase followed by my second.
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Please advise/comment if this routinely appears on Aeroclassics' CFM pods?
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Hi there,
I have quite a few Aeroclassics 737-200/300, A320, DC-10, Lockheed Electras, DC-8, 707, 767, DC-6, DC-3. The main issues I have are the rubber wheels going missing, and a few printing errors. In saying that, I still prefer the brand over others. The 737-200's were my first models, I popped my cheery on Aeroclassics. They do good old metal !! I haven't yet seen any of the engine problems you have encountered, thank goodness. I wouldn't be happy paying for that model.

The good & the bad.

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I have quite a few Aeroclassics 737-200/300, A320, DC-10, Lockheed Electras, DC-8, 707, 767, DC-6, DC-3. The main issues I have are the rubber wheels going missing, and a few printing errors. In saying that, I still prefer the brand over others. The 737-200's were my first models, I popped my cheery on Aeroclassics. They do good old metal !! I haven't yet seen any of the engine problems you have encountered, thank goodness. I wouldn't be happy paying for that model.

The good & the bad.

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That's some very serious collection you've got there! My very first model was their 737-200 too! I agree with you, the sure do great old metal! They nail those PW JT8D

Their CFM on their 737-800s...
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I would be sending the Qantas 737-800 back for a replacement.

I have collected AeroClassics since the first Qantas and TAA models were released and yes from time to time they do have problems just like all 1/400 manufacturers.

Buy from a recognised AeroClassics retailer and they will always assist if possible.

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I would be sending the Qantas 737-800 back for a replacement.

I have collected AeroClassics since the first Qantas and TAA models were released and yes from time to time they do have problems just like all 1/400 manufacturers.

Buy from a recognised AeroClassics retailer and they will always assist if possible.

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Yeah, seller ignored me but fortunately paypal stepped in to refund me after seller's silences went pass x number of days. I had only wanted an exchange, maybe it's the whole batch?

These seemed like a mass produced CFM for their 737-800, with no markings unique to VH.

737-800 pods issue? Does this suggest I should avoid Aeroclassics' 737-800 altogether?

Collectors? Help....
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G'day,

As Aeroclassics "lost" their 737-800 mould a couple of years back, the whole question is rather mute. Aeroclassics haven't released any new 737-800s for awhile now. As they no longer own a mould of this unit, they arn't going to do so anytime soon...

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I've had few problems with AC. One model I bought the colour was distinctly off. Several models came in pieces. Due to faulty glue at the factory and was assured by My K. that the problem was looked into and resolved. I carefully glued the parts back on and none the worse for it. I know Mr. Klein is very proud of his models and sometimes can't take a critique, but AC has filled a niche for some classic planes in the hobby. Although I've ceased buying models, I still maintain my collection and AC is a cornerstone of it.
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The landing gear is the critical point hands down.
Some folks talk about colour variations and fonts etc....I've been ok so far but the landing gear is terrible. Missing tyres, struts bent etc etc....on a limited release model gives you buckleys of getting a replacement. A very hit and miss affair.
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The landing gear is the critical point hands down.
Some folks talk about colour variations and fonts etc....I've been ok so far but the landing gear is terrible. Missing tyres, struts bent etc etc....on a limited release model gives you buckleys of getting a replacement. A very hit and miss affair.
Over the years I've been collecting Aeroclassics, I have been generally very pleased with the quality and have rarely had any paint issues. There have been errors in livery occasionally due to poor research or factory errors, but my only real gripe is the wheels falling off DC-8s and DC-10s, which seem to be the main culprits. I would just love AC to return to fixed undercarriages with no rolling gear.
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I have collected models for around 15 years now. Very,very few Aeroclassics models have disappointed me. So few in fact,I can't think of one off the top of my head.
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All good in the hood regarding Aeroclassics except for the earlier ones where some were plagued by zinc rot. I can glue parts back on and tweak gear as long as paint hasn't been taken or the loose parts haven't scratched the paint during shipping. One thing I don't like, is being accused of low sales at one of the airliner shows by distributor Mr. Z in Canada because I commented that they had a glue problem on DA.C when the A310's came out. He claimed I was having the issue by buying "B" stock" items from a certain retailer who gets his product elsewhere.

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I have collected models for around 15 years now. Very,very few Aeroclassics models have disappointed me. So few in fact,I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Yeah, I was thinking of giving Phoenix a break and tryout Aeroclassics and the two quick and consecutive issues with the CFM pods proved too soon too much.

Can anyone not get it right?
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As Aeroclassics "lost" their 737-800 mould a couple of years back, the whole question is rather mute. Aeroclassics haven't released any new 737-800s for awhile now. As they no longer own a mould of this unit, they arn't going to do so anytime soon...

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Thanks - not aware of those points! rightttttt.... I think it's rather clear now in terms of what I'll get myself into (again) if I give the 737-800 another shot.
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I would just love AC to return to fixed undercarriages with no rolling gear.
But then how will they satisfy the 10-year-olds who play with them like Matchbox cars?
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Thanks - not aware of those points! rightttttt.... I think it's rather clear now in terms of what I'll get myself into (again) if I give the 737-800 another shot.
I've got loads of 737-700/800s using this mould and not had the issues you point out so I wouldn't worry. As Lou says this mould is no longer used by Aeroclassics anyway since their falling out with Kang Kai. It is now only used by Panda models. It's a pretty decent mould imho - certainly far better than the Phoenix offering and equal to the JC Wings one too.
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Beg to differ on that point. Though AC used the 737-800 mould in question, it was sub-par, and AC stopped using it long before the fallout with the band of thieves Richard refers to.
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I've got loads of 737-700/800s using this mould and not had the issues you point out so I wouldn't worry. As Lou says this mould is no longer used by Aeroclassics anyway since their falling out with Kang Kai. It is now only used by Panda models. It's a pretty decent mould imho - certainly far better than the Phoenix offering and equal to the JC Wings one too.
Indeed, their mold / mould (spelling? I'm unsure which one is correct) is quite decent, it's their engine pods that's putting me off and making me hesitant though my sample size is too small.
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All good in the hood regarding Aeroclassics except for the earlier ones where some were plagued by zinc rot. I can glue parts back on and tweak gear as long as paint hasn't been taken or the loose parts haven't scratched the paint during shipping. One thing I don't like, is being accused of low sales at one of the airliner shows by distributor Mr. Z in Canada because I commented that they had a glue problem on DA.C when the A310's came out. He claimed I was having the issue by buying "B" stock" items from a certain retailer who gets his product elsewhere.
Question is, why or how did "B" grade stock manage to pass QC and leave factory?
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Exactly, just a BS smoke screen because Mr. Z doesn't like the fact that the certain retailer bypasses the distribution network.
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Recently saw a GJ model on Amazon, and one review said something like "bad grammar included) "Look nice. But break after kid play with it only 30 minutes"

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Recently saw a GJ model on Amazon, and one review said something like "bad grammar included) "Look nice. But break after kid play with it only 30 minutes"

30 minutes!?! That's pretty good actually. I've had instances where they had already fallen apart when I unboxed them.

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I have only today noticed that there is such a huge discrepancy between Phoenix's 1/400 A330-200 and Aeroclassics'.

Which one is more 'accurate'?
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Also, as I was putting away the models, I noticed the main landing gear of Aeroclassics' A330-200 kept falling off after putting them back onto the boogie.

Then upon closer inspection, I've realised that might've been due to how they manufacture the rim - surely, wouldn't this design be prone to the tires falling off?
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I have only today noticed that there is such a huge discrepancy between Phoenix's 1/400 A330-200 and Aeroclassics'.

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As far as gimmicks go in 1/400 scale, spinning fans in the engines, antennas, rolling wheels with oversized hubs, etc., AeroClassics is clearly NOT the leader in this nonsense, but is indeed the leader in accuracy of their tooling, in shape and dimensions!!
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If anybody has purchased Aeroclassics QANTAS Airbus A330-300 Rainbow reg VH-QPJ ask yourself which way up should the Pride flag be on the tail? I'll give you a clue.

IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.

Now ask yourself if QANTAS got it right, NOT if you view a photo of the tail on the real aircraft. So well spotted Andrew.
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If anybody has purchased Aeroclassics QANTAS Airbus A330-300 Rainbow reg VH-QPJ ask yourself which way up should the Pride flag be on the tail? I'll give you a clue.

IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.

Now ask yourself if QANTAS got it right, NOT if you view a photo of the tail on the real aircraft. So well spotted Andrew.
Very good spotting !!! Googled the readily available images of the actual aircraft in reference and couldn't believe what I saw.
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