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Old 04-11-2017, 03:03 AM   #1
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Judging from comments I see it seems not everyone is aware of the big changes that JC Wings have been implementing in the past 6 months or so. They are swiftly becoming an impressive manufacturer and a strong competitor to Phoenix especially. Check out this post for a roundup of all the new moulds they've been producing. Now if they could just get them out closer to their announcements!

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Old 04-11-2017, 07:54 AM   #2
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No doubt I love my flaps down jcwings. Just so cool, I didn't realize they had a new 777 without that wing seam but could tell their really stepping it up. Now please give us a new completely revised seamless 747-100-300 with some really thin wings kinda like the 747-8 which looks great.
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No doubt I love my flaps down jcwings. Just so cool, I didn't realize they had a new 777 without that wing seam but could tell their really stepping it up. Now please give us a new completely revised seamless 747-100-300 with some really thin wings kinda like the 747-8 which looks great.
They have the BigBird 747 mould they just don't use it much and seem to prefer t use the old Gemini mould, which is markedly inferior.
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I've just pre-ordered the A350-1000 model, if it's as good as their 900 version it ought to be a great purchase. I haven't seen much else of their current output personally, someone doing an up to date with all mod cons, 747-100/200 would get my buck too.
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JC Wings is rapidly setting the bar high. The MAX looks great,and they nailed the A330-F nose gear area.
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They have the BigBird 747 mould they just don't use it much and seem to prefer t use the old Gemini mould, which is markedly inferior.
Yea no doubt, why is it that they don't at least use the big bird mold. Take that and add some sweet lazer cut fans in the engines plus add in a flaps down version and I would be one happy camper.
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Yea no doubt, why is it that they don't at least use the big bird mold. Take that and add some sweet lazer cut fans in the engines plus add in a flaps down version and I would be one happy camper.
Because they now have too many moulds after acquiring all those in the defunct Witty factory. Their production is too busy pumping our military aircraft in 1/72 scale and airliners in 1/200 scale so the poor 1/400 Big Bird moulds are probably neglected and gathering dust in a store somewhere.
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Because they now have too many moulds after acquiring all those in the defunct Witty factory. Their production is too busy pumping our military aircraft in 1/72 scale and airliners in 1/200 scale so the poor 1/400 Big Bird moulds are probably neglected and gathering dust in a store somewhere.
There's *way* too much 1:200 (and 1:500!) stuff getting made today, and not enough 1:400, especially classics. The outstanding Big Bird 1:400 747 moulds should be used monthly, let alone yearly. Not to mention the L-1011 which is the best L-1011 mould out there. (I wonder if Aeroclassics could lease that mould!)

Any A330, I'm getting to where I just wait for Aeroclassics to do it.

As I noted at Yesterday's Airlines itself, Witty had a terrific 777-300 mould, with good gear and no wing seams. Is this possibly the Witty mould updated with aerials? I would be very happy if so.

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They have the BigBird 747 mould they just don't use it much and seem to prefer t use the old Gemini mould, which is markedly inferior.
I would suggest the reason behind this is because the BigBird mould uses zamac cold press zinc, however the gemini mould uses the newer Hot aluminium press mould. As such the newer models don't suffer from zinc rot, tho is occasionally susceptible to Powdery Rot. Aluminium is also lighter than zinc and therefore more cost effective when it comes to shipping overseas. It allows for more models to be shipped for the same price and also keeps costs down.

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So basically Gemini are using aluminium and cheaper production methods, but have increased their 'per model' pricing for a 747 to the realms of a luxury item ?
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Yes I must admit these models look great.

I'd love to see Dragon re-enter the market with their 747 range and bring some interest back into the market.....
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I'd love to see Dragon re-enter the market with their 747 range and bring some interest back into the market.....
Agree 100%. If only they could do something to update the gears on their models. Bring them up to date and prototypical would be awesome. They do still produce 1:400 models but only for their corporate clients atm.
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Did Dragon Wings ever give a reason for pulling out of the collectors market and could somebody remind me when they last did a set of 'available to buy' releases ?
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DW used to be the leader in this scale.
I fondly remember walking around HKG and seeing DW models everywhere. They were the leader in 1/400 scale.
I think the rise of PHX and the GJ reboot sealed their fate - and they essentially just bowed out of the market.
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I would suggest the reason behind this is because the BigBird mould uses zamac cold press zinc, however the gemini mould uses the newer Hot aluminium press mould. As such the newer models don't suffer from zinc rot, tho is occasionally susceptible to Powdery Rot. Aluminium is also lighter than zinc and therefore more cost effective when it comes to shipping overseas. It allows for more models to be shipped for the same price and also keeps costs down. Cheers Lou
If this newer technology is where the business is going, then I would respectfully suggest making a newer "hot aluminum press" version of the BigBird mould. The Gemini mould, as Rich noted, is markedly inferior.

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Aeroclassics is vastly superior to Dragon. Some people think plastic wings and stabs allow for better detail, but AC's detail is top-notch and metal is better quality than all that plastic. I for one don't mourn Dragon. Better for Aeroclassics to make their own moulds of some models that Dragon made--L-1011, MD-80 series--and make those classics!

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I would love to consider getting the JC version of the B737 MAX8 model.
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I would love to consider getting the JC version of the B737 MAX8 model.
The Panda version is better but the JC one looks passable
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