At this point, GJ might as well copy-and-paste this list for July's releases; another Emirates A380, another Hawaiian 767-300 and Emirates 777-200. This has become predictable.
The new game now should be the following:
How long before these models turn into saltine crackers because of zinc-rot?
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Oh dear Gemini, for ****s sake release something interesting other than repeat corporate releases?
You have a nice 1/400 Convair 580 mould, so where are the North Central, Republic, American Eagle, Continental Express,Frontier, Aspen, Canadian Air Force and so many others?
Again, your Ilyushin IL-62 mould is crying out for more to be made - TAROM, different Aeroflot schemes, Interflug, LOT (early scheme) etc.
Let's have some imagination and a few more classics ...PLEASE!
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
Oh dear Gemini, for ****s sake release something interesting other than repeat corporate releases?
You have a nice 1/400 Convair 580 mould, so where are the North Central, Republic, American Eagle, Continental Express,Frontier, Aspen, Canadian Air Force and so many others?
Again, your Ilyushin IL-62 mould is crying out for more to be made - TAROM, different Aeroflot schemes, Interflug, LOT (early scheme) etc.
Let's have some imagination and a few more classics ...PLEASE!
And then some question why so many feel that the Gemini hints thread is annoying, and a waste of time.
I agree, that Convair 580 mould should be put to use more often!
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It seems the general consensus, even on Facebook where the kids fawn all over GJ, is that this month's releases are naff. However considering the excellent releases being put out by Aeroclassics and Panda models as well as Collection Sale costs its just as well Gemini produce such uninspired models.
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I collect Gemini exclusively, but I must say that I won't be spending any money on this month's releases, with the exception of a slight possibility of the JetBlue A320. However, I'm not even sure on that one as I don't know if I even want to get into a fleet build with JetBlue. I hope soon they will turn out the other AA 737-800 retro birds. The AA TWA retro was great, but I'd like to see the AirCal and Reno Air retro's, along with the 737 One World scheme come out as well. It's also about time for another current livery United 777-200.
Quite agree. The GJ 747 mould may be a little tired, but now it appears GJ have a monoploy if they want to make some classic 747s. Dragon appear to have abandoned 1/400 scale and the BigBird400 747s moulds have been lost in the JC empire, who has more moulds than he knows what to do with! That leaves
just GJ, so how about another BOAC 747 with polished belly?
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
Quite agree. The GJ 747 mould may be a little tired, but now it appears GJ have a monoploy if they want to make some classic 747s. Dragon appear to have abandoned 1/400 scale and the BigBird400 747s moulds have been lost in the JC empire, who has more moulds than he knows what to do with! That leaves
just GJ, so how about another BOAC 747 with polished belly?
That sounds good and rerelease the delta 747-100 the wardair 747-100 and the eastern 747-100 hockey stick and cp air 747 and maybe the 747 100 747sp and 747-400 prototypes
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That's about as boring a lineup as I've seen from this company.
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Make more 747 classics
As nice as that would be, it appears GJ has ZERO interest in making anything that isn't 2016 current anymore. Their idea of a retro subject is probably doing a US Airways Embraer 190.
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I like the Norwegian and ABC liveries, however, I am loyal to Phoenix for the 787 and 748 mold(s).
Gemini was doing well the last couple of months, I bought several. Who knows what happened this month, maybe someone was on vacation..
Since they produce so many EK models, why not offer them under a sub-brand at a discount? I like some of these special livery A380's, but not for $50, and not when I know another one is coming in two months time.
Please keep in mind, the Hawaiian, Emirates etc...keep this company alive. Those are large corporate airline orders usually in the many thousands of pieces, that permit GJ to make smaller run releases.
Of 29 models, there were three classics--an Aeromexico MD-88, a Pan Am 737, and a BA Concorde.
Last year, Gemini were using their Convair 580 mould. I have the very nice Allegheny model sitting on a shelf less than a foot from my left elbow. Let's see more Convair classics!
i'm torn on Gemini doing 747 classics. Their mould is good, but not great. There's just nothing close to the outstanding Aeroclassics moulds. These need to be put back into action, period. Preferably by Andrew himself, if some arrangement could be reached.
At most, possibly two for me this month. Possibly the Vietnam A330, as I don't have that national carrier represented yet. Also, I don't have Norwegian yet and haven't decided between a 787 (Gemini) or 737-800 (Aeroclassics).
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Please keep in mind, the Hawaiian, Emirates etc...keep this company alive. Those are large corporate airline orders usually in the many thousands of pieces, that permit GJ to make smaller run releases.
Yep. Just like actors/actresses will do plebeian summertime action-adventure garbage so they can later afford to do socially relevant plays and small budget independent films, which they actually enjoy. I totally get that.
I guess it makes me wonder, just how big (or small) is the market for diecast models? If GJ is really struggling to sell 1000 units of a CV-580 or Fokker 70, why not take advantage of popular models like the Hekla Aurora and triple production? I don't see why GJ would artificially limit production of something like this. Any "value" that comes from the scarcity will only benefit the secondary market, i.e., eBay, Collection Sales, and so forth. GJ is leaving a lot of money on the table, IMO.
You poor poor deluded fool - why anyone would do this, let alone admit to it is beyond me! - Just joking - kind of anyway!
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Please keep in mind, the Hawaiian, Emirates etc...keep this company alive. Those are large corporate airline orders usually in the many thousands of pieces, that permit GJ to make smaller run releases.
I know Aeroclassics do this but I haven't seen much evidence that Gemini do. Which releases have Gemini done that they can't sell 1500 of exactly? Gemini are unashamed in what they are doing, which is fine - they produce decent reproductions on average moulds for the modern US collector and corporate customer and that is all. Judging from what I see they are doing well and keeping the majority of people happy. Sad but true and someone has to make these models I guess.
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Back in the Halcyon days of diecast ...i.e. 2001-2006, Gemini would produce 2500 models of each release. There was no big rush to jump and pre-order most models. Now most runs are 500-600 pieces from what I hear. We have also seen an increase in the variety and scales being offered by GJ.
If I have to see one more HAWAIIAN 767 or EMIRATES (anything) I may throw up little tiny plane wheels all over the place. Enough is enough. If the airline is going to keep ordering them, send them to them, don't keep saturating the market with all these planes that nobody wants.
I'd like to see something we haven't seen in awhile...or EVER! Or won't ever see in the skies again, because it's defunct or merged...like, Merger Hybrids (they always seem to be popular)...or maybe...
US Airways A321 Heritage (with "American" titles)
US Airways Shuttle A320 and/or 727-200 (nobody ever made these two)
American Eagle "Piedmont Heritage" Dash-8
Western Pacific (ALL the Logo jets-I had these in the 1:200 plastic versions)
Just a couple ideas to get the ball rolling...Anybody else wanna jump in???
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You poor poor deluded fool - why anyone would do this, let alone admit to it is beyond me! - Just joking - kind of anyway!
I know Aeroclassics do this but I haven't seen much evidence that Gemini do. Which releases have Gemini done that they can't sell 1500 of exactly? Gemini are unashamed in what they are doing, which is fine - they produce decent reproductions on average moulds for the modern US collector and corporate customer and that is all. Judging from what I see they are doing well and keeping the majority of people happy. Sad but true and someone has to make these models I guess.
Although I have been a dedicated GeminiJets fan for many years...I have to agree. They have NOTHING on Phoenix, especially when it comes to the landing gear. Total opposite ends of the spectrum!!!
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I'm perplexed why people are complaining about the corporate releases, I dont see anyone being forced to buy them
But it's the same corporate releases month after month after month. You're going to tell me that no one in this hobby collects fleets of TWA 767s' or Piedmont 727s' or Continental DC-10s'? How about a little variety once in a while?
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If I have to see one more HAWAIIAN 767 or EMIRATES (anything) I may throw up little tiny plane wheels all over the place. Enough is enough. If the airline is going to keep ordering them, send them to them, don't keep saturating the market with all these planes that nobody wants.
I'd like to see something we haven't seen in awhile...or EVER! Or won't ever see in the skies again, because it's defunct or merged...like, Merger Hybrids (they always seem to be popular)...or maybe...
US Airways A321 Heritage (with "American" titles)
US Airways Shuttle A320 and/or 727-200 (nobody ever made these two)
American Eagle "Piedmont Heritage" Dash-8
Western Pacific (ALL the Logo jets-I had these in the 1:200 plastic versions)
Just a couple ideas to get the ball rolling...Anybody else wanna jump in???
Well stated
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If I have to see one more HAWAIIAN 767 or EMIRATES (anything) I may throw up little tiny plane wheels all over the place. Enough is enough. If the airline is going to keep ordering them, send them to them, don't keep saturating the market with all these planes that nobody wants.
I'd like to see something we haven't seen in awhile...or EVER! Or won't ever see in the skies again, because it's defunct or merged...like, Merger Hybrids (they always seem to be popular)...or maybe...
US Airways A321 Heritage (with "American" titles)
US Airways Shuttle A320 and/or 727-200 (nobody ever made these two)
American Eagle "Piedmont Heritage" Dash-8
Western Pacific (ALL the Logo jets-I had these in the 1:200 plastic versions)
Just a couple ideas to get the ball rolling...Anybody else wanna jump in???
Love the suggestions, but I would be shocked to see GJ ever bother with any of those. They very rarely ever bother with anything that isn't the most current of the current. Look at the last two months of releases. Every single one of them represent 2016 subjects. Not even something from a few years ago. GJ just can't be bothered with doing anything that isn't a Delta/Emirates/Hawaiian corporate release or a subject that just came out this year. With that said, I think we have to look elsewhere (e.g. AeroClassics) for stuff from the '90s, like the WestPacs. Combine GJ's lack of variety with their crap customer service (i.e. NONEXISTENT) and zinc rot garbage, and they aren't exactly endearing themselves to many collectors over the age of 12 right now.
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I don't mind the corporate releases, don't buy any of them, not interested but if it sells, is is fine with me.
What does raise my eye brows to considerable hights is the release strategy for the other non-corporatre releases. Two examples.
Gemini after years releases an Antonov An-124 model. Great, excellent but instead of picking a winning livery, they release a copy of what Herpa announced months earlier. Why, what is the logic here. As a result it is a giant flop.
Again many years without an Il-62M release. Gemini announces they will make one finally, lots of anticipation. And in the end Gemini produces a giant fart in the form of a Koryo Il-62M, livery already done and not exactly the most wanted model. Result, there are still so many available that you could give them away in cereal boxes.
Don't complain Gemini bros, if these models don't sell because product management makes giant flaws like the above. I'm sure there are more recent examples of this.
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Please keep in mind, the Hawaiian, Emirates etc...keep this company alive. Those are large corporate airline orders usually in the many thousands of pieces, that permit GJ to make smaller run releases.
We know that but surely GJ have made enough profit from these corporate releases (every month) to enable them to produce more models that collectors would buy? Yet we see the same airlines month in, month out
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
Yep. Just like actors/actresses will do plebeian summertime action-adventure garbage so they can later afford to do socially relevant plays and small budget independent films, which they actually enjoy. I totally get that.
I guess it makes me wonder, just how big (or small) is the market for diecast models? If GJ is really struggling to sell 1000 units of a CV-580 or Fokker 70, why not take advantage of popular models like the Hekla Aurora and triple production? I don't see why GJ would artificially limit production of something like this. Any "value" that comes from the scarcity will only benefit the secondary market, i.e., eBay, Collection Sales, and so forth. GJ is leaving a lot of money on the table, IMO.
Knowing that there's a secondary market is what makes the initial releases sell so well. A big part of the appeal is the scarcity of some of these releases - having something that nobody else could get their hands on. Especially in the long-term. It adds value to a collection. Sure, some people just want a collection of planes and don't care about the rarity. But I don't think that accurately reflects the market.
Knowing that there's a secondary market is what makes the initial releases sell so well. A big part of the appeal is the scarcity of some of these releases - having something that nobody else could get their hands on. Especially in the long-term. It adds value to a collection. Sure, some people just want a collection of planes and don't care about the rarity. But I don't think that accurately reflects the market.
I totally agree with this logic. For example, the AA A321 sold out SOOO fast, and there are plenty of collectors out there (me included) that didn't get one, that would love for GJ to do another run of them, so we could get it in our collection. Or I'm sure there are people there weren't able to get the new American "TWA" Heritage plane which is already showing sold out and they just came out...These are the models that people crave and should be re-released at a later time with a different reg. # (if possible) so it won't take away from the orig releases value.
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I totally agree with this logic. For example, the AA A321 sold out SOOO fast, and there are plenty of collectors out there (me included) that didn't get one, that would love for GJ to do another run of them, so we could get it in our collection. Or I'm sure there are people there weren't able to get the new American "TWA" Heritage plane which is already showing sold out and they just came out...These are the models that people crave and should be re-released at a later time with a different reg. # (if possible) so it won't take away from the orig releases value.
Really? People think about the value of this stuff, like baseball cards, or commemorative coins?
Huh... I just like airplanes. If they were worthless I'd still buy them.
Maybe they need to have a retro release each month - covering either the Dc10, 747 or tristar etc. In that way we can expect something each month and there is plenty of inspiration to choose from ...
Then again its their business model so they can do what they want really!
I know 90% of the people here doesn't care about freighters model but i do, and my curious question is why gemini jets has to release exactly the same model and same registration that phoenix models have, example is the atlas air 747-800f (n952gt) and this month the case of lufthansa cargo md-11f (d-alcn)
for us the cargo enthusiast on top that we have to wait between 2-3 months to see some freighters, when they do, then we get this kind of surprises unbelievable this hobby is going down big time
Oh dear Gemini, for ****s sake release something interesting other than repeat corporate releases?
You have a nice 1/400 Convair 580 mould, so where are the North Central, Republic, American Eagle, Continental Express,Frontier, Aspen, Canadian Air Force and so many others?
Again, your Ilyushin IL-62 mould is crying out for more to be made - TAROM, different Aeroflot schemes, Interflug, LOT (early scheme) etc.
Let's have some imagination and a few more classics ...PLEASE!
I couldn't agree more. I don't mind if they release more and more corporate models and modern stuff, as long as classic lovers have a little something each month.
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I wonder how the jetBlue will stack up against aeroclassics?
At least it will sport the dorsal dome...
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Still looking for following 1/400 models :
AIR FRANCE Concorde F-BVFC & F-BVFD
AIR FRANCE 747 delivery colors F-BPVH
Gemini June Releases
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