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Old 05-07-2014, 12:28 PM   #1
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:38 PM   #2
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a safe month for me, nothing of my interest
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I'll take the AS for my fleet and the G4 for that mini fleet as well! Sad that the United release was one that had already been done! I would have loved a CR2, CR7, 73G, 739, 753... Etc etc! Also that A320 looks to have a different wing joint... Is this a new mould?
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Why so many re-releases and no use of that brand new Embraer E-Jets mold, like really!?!?

LH are always welcome, but i would have preferred an E190 or a B733..
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Also that A320 looks to have a different wing joint... Is this a new mould?
I'd say no, you just need to look closer to see the wing-box.. Looks like the old/current one to me..
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I'd say no, you just need to look closer to see the wing-box.. Looks like the old/current one to me..
It looks like they might have gone back to their original mould as opposed to the JC Wings mould they used for a while. I'm in favor of that call...wasn't a huge fan of that second mould. I bought it anyways, but this one looks cleaner to me.
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AA 757- done before
Alaska 737-7 done before
British Airways 787 done before
United a319 done before
WestJet 737-8 done before
Delta 747-4 done before

As for the rest, nothing but the usual airlines that gemini produce, there are soo any airlines/aircraft that could be done, sadly nothing for me, hopefully they manage to get the ANZ 787-9 out next month

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As I never caught the united 319 before I will grab it now. And the Westjet 737-800 to build up my WestJet fleet.
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Grief
A British B732 when already released by another company.
Why not British Airtours as the AK200 release?
Or better still the Landor Xmas scheme (also available in 1:200)

1:400 is becoming the poor relation to 1:200 with repeat releases.
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wallet safe this month!
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I already have half of those.. Maybe I'll do the G4 A320.

*Super* disappointed.
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I'll probably get the AA 757 because I've likely ridden on that registration, but really no new E-jets? Pretty uninteresting month for me too.
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I already have half of those.. Maybe I'll do the G4 A320.

*Super* disappointed.
+1 ... Nothing new this month
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Allegiant A320 for me. The collector in me is a little disappointed, but my credit card is happy for the break.
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Nothing jumps out at me this time round I hope for a Condor 'sunny heart' 757-300 for next time. With this I think its more a question of when rather than if its made
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Nothing jumps out at me this time round I hope for a Condor 'sunny heart' 757-300 for next time. With this I think its more a question of when rather than if its made
Great suggestion, i have two copies of the now old Condor B753WL and love this model - To me one of the best ever released by GJ..
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Well, I called it on the other topic. We have a Delta, United and an Emirates. Surprising that there wasn't a Hawaiian included with this month's release - the GJ factory in China must have run out of paint for the Hawaiian colors.
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Or Hawaiian bought the entire run
Unlikely since GJ would have just moved onto the next 767-300/A330/717 in line.
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Or better still the Landor Xmas scheme (also available in 1:200)

1:400 is becoming the poor relation to 1:200 with repeat releases.
Yes but the underbelly blue came up too high on the AC release (and the silver top). It's annoyed the hell out of me since I bought them, hopefully GJ will rectify that with this release. Other than that issue I'm in full agreement.

As to the rest of the releases, I'll take the BA 787 too, mainly because the reg represents another of those that fit my 'been onboard' collection.
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A parade of old and outdated moulds yet again... (with the exception of the BA 787)...nothing here for me.
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A parade of old and outdated moulds yet again... (with the exception of the BA 787)...nothing here for me.
Is GJ ever going to fix that terrible mould joint on their pylons? I took a chance and bought the Delta last year and yeah; it looks a bit toy-like...incl. the SP's .
It's been going on since the 90's...or whenever they came out with the 747. Break the mould arleady!
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I agree, that engine pylon mould join is dreadful...and its most pronounced on the 747 and 777 moulds I find. It really is time GJ forked out for a new 777 mould IMHO. I'd even be very happy if GJ used PHX's excellent 777 moulds, which seems to be what they do with the 787? This awful pylon is even there on the 747-8, which is a comparatively new mould.
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Does that 787 say G-ZBJA on it ? And isn't the Air New Zealand 787-9 also coming this/next month ?
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G'day all,

First off in 1:400 scale we have...

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I never have to worry about gemini releases breaking the bank. Aside from the BA 737 this is an uninspiring lot.

What i don't understand is that Gemini have introduced new MD80 and ERJ moulds and seem unable or unwilling to actually use them. Now I'm not a fan of modern jets and the MD80 mould was a fail in my opinion bu tthe lack of usage puzzles me nonetheless.

Compared to Aeroclassics who look like they are going to produce another bumper month of releases and introduced a new mould last month with 3 releases and look set to use it for 3 more this month.

Gemini are conservative to the max.
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What i don't understand is that Gemini have introduced new MD80 and ERJ moulds and seem unable or unwilling to actually use them.
Just because they aren't using the ERJ mould for this month doesn't mean they are "unable or unwilling" to use it. That's a silly, almost ridiculous, leap to make. Now, if it's a full year later and they still haven't used it again, then you can say it's weird.
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I'm not a fan of modern jets and the MD80 mould was a fail in my opinion but the lack of usage puzzles me nonetheless.

Gemini are conservative to the max.
I see lots of winglets and very few cheatlines in the future.
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I'm tempted with the two Lufty's and the AA757.
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Allegiant, Delta, and Emirates must be good corporate customers for GJ. Kinda uninspired lot to say the least.
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Just because they aren't using the ERJ mould for this month doesn't mean they are "unable or unwilling" to use it. That's a silly, almost ridiculous, leap to make. Now, if it's a full year later and they still haven't used it again, then you can say it's weird.
I don't see how it is silly. It would make sense when you create a new mould to preload the mould's usage in exactly the way Aeroclassics have done so when you release it you can maximise its launch impact with sales. Using a mould once in about 4 months (MD80) or once in 2 months (ERJ) suggest an inability or unwillingness - what other option can you suggest???

Aeroclassics have used their 737-300 mould over 40 times since its release about 8 months ago and as I said the Starliner probably 6 times (assuming the expected F-, D-, LX- regs for May are Starliners) in 2 months. They've even used the C-46 about 10 times in the past 6 months or so and as much as I hate to admit it they're never going to sell anywhere near as many C-46s as Gemini could MD80s or Embraers.
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Yes but the underbelly blue came up too high on the AC release (and the silver top). It's annoyed the hell out of me since I bought them, hopefully GJ will rectify that with this release.
At least the AC release has the correct size roof titles. These are slightly too big on this GJ version and should start after the first two windows, not be aligned with the front window. They made the same mistake with their 'British' HS748 - the titles nearly touched eachother on top of the roof!

Nothing new of interest to me this month - my money will go to Aeroclassics for sure.
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Is this the 4th 757W with AA livery in 1/400 from GJ? And have any of the 757s been painted in new livery with AA yet?
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Disappointing set of releases, this because I was almost certain I would see AA 772ER in OneWorld livery for May. My wallet is safe for now.
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I don't see how it is silly. It would make sense when you create a new mould to preload the mould's usage in exactly the way Aeroclassics have done so when you release it you can maximise its launch impact with sales. Using a mould once in about 4 months (MD80) or once in 2 months (ERJ) suggest an inability or unwillingness - what other option can you suggest???

Aeroclassics have used their 737-300 mould over 40 times since its release about 8 months ago and as I said the Starliner probably 6 times (assuming the expected F-, D-, LX- regs for May are Starliners) in 2 months. They've even used the C-46 about 10 times in the past 6 months or so and as much as I hate to admit it they're never going to sell anywhere near as many C-46s as Gemini could MD80s or Embraers.
After a single month where they didn't use a mould, you're willing to make conclusions? Sample size of ONE month?

Again, call me back if they haven't used it again within a year.

Aeroclassics operates in a different way, anyway, with smaller production runs. Hard to compare practices across the two.
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Is this the 4th 757W with AA livery in 1/400 from GJ? And have any of the 757s been painted in new livery with AA yet?
According to an article in Aviation Week, not until the second half of 2016. Long way away if you ask me.
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I don't see how it is silly. It would make sense when you create a new mould to preload the mould's usage in exactly the way Aeroclassics have done so when you release it you can maximise its launch impact with sales. Using a mould once in about 4 months (MD80) or once in 2 months (ERJ) suggest an inability or unwillingness - what other option can you suggest???

Aeroclassics have used their 737-300 mould over 40 times since its release about 8 months ago and as I said the Starliner probably 6 times (assuming the expected F-, D-, LX- regs for May are Starliners) in 2 months. They've even used the C-46 about 10 times in the past 6 months or so and as much as I hate to admit it they're never going to sell anywhere near as many C-46s as Gemini could MD80s or Embraers.

Richard, I'm sure they're reworking their mold (mould for you) into a stellar "New" mold, with both round and screw tails. Of course, Frontier Saul Bass will be first up! (One can dream - but I wonder if they aren't doing a redo on the nose)
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Yes, lets hope for next time. Also a hybrid blue/sunny heart 763W ThomasCook please!!

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Lots of stuff here already done. So, good for fleet builders and those who missed earlier releases.
I'm a bit surprised about the lack of an E-Jet this month as well. Heaps of opportunities there.
Nothing for me from Gemini this month, it's all good though as I expect much wallet damage from Aeroclassics shortly.
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After a single month where they didn't use a mould, you're willing to make conclusions? Sample size of ONE month?

Again, call me back if they haven't used it again within a year.

Aeroclassics operates in a different way, anyway, with smaller production runs. Hard to compare practices across the two.
I have about 6 ERJ-170/190 samples already, don't worry, lots are coming.
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I have about 6 ERJ-170/190 samples already, don't worry, lots are coming.
What about the MD80?
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I don't see how it is silly. It would make sense when you create a new mould to preload the mould's usage in exactly the way Aeroclassics have done so when you release it you can maximise its launch impact with sales. Using a mould once in about 4 months (MD80) or once in 2 months (ERJ) suggest an inability or unwillingness - what other option can you suggest???

Aeroclassics have used their 737-300 mould over 40 times since its release about 8 months ago and as I said the Starliner probably 6 times
Aeroclassics and Gemini are very different companies. If you take 20 of those 40 releases, that production run for the total amount of models might be the same amount of models as one American model run from GJ would be.

There are some models that will just sell, and sell a lot of, so when you release it doesn't really matter. If you come out with a new mould, ERJ-170 for example, and then six months later release the American Eagle ERJ-170 you sure as heck are still going to sell a lot..and I mean a lot of them.

Some people really like to bash certain releases and re-releases but they are done for a reason. A re-release isn't done unless the previous one is about to sell out. The recent EK A380 in 1:200 scale, the third big run of it, is already sold-out from GJ. DAC might not like it, but a lot of other people certainly do.
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Allegiant isn't a corporate customer, but with their large Las Vegas base we have a lot of Allegiant fans here.
Is there no "revised" a319 mould like the "revised" JC Wings-shared a320 mould? The United a319 (and last month's Virgin a319) suffer from the same criticism of the old 777 and a320 mould with outdated landing gear that detract from the accuracy of the mould.

Also if there's anyway GJ can make nice with Phoenix and share their new 757 landing gear (e.g. Air China cargo 757), it would benefit the collectorate. The GJ 757 landing gears are just so unpleasant to look at.
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Aeroclassics and Gemini are very different companies. If you take 20 of those 40 releases, that production run for the total amount of models might be the same amount of models as one American model run from GJ would be.

There are some models that will just sell, and sell a lot of, so when you release it doesn't really matter. If you come out with a new mould, ERJ-170 for example, and then six months later release the American Eagle ERJ-170 you sure as heck are still going to sell a lot..and I mean a lot of them.

Some people really like to bash certain releases and re-releases but they are done for a reason. A re-release isn't done unless the previous one is about to sell out. The recent EK A380 in 1:200 scale, the third big run of it, is already sold-out from GJ. DAC might not like it, but a lot of other people certainly do.
Understand they are different companies and I appreciate that you take the time to interact with the collectorate (and don't loose it like AK does ). The thing is once you have the mould isn't the design of the livery the time consuming / costly thing, so regardless of how many models AC produce they still have the same upfront costs as Gemini (except for the generic boxes). That's why it surprises me that Gemini are so conservative with releases especially given the corporate safety net $$. I understand why GJ makes lots of similar models - not a big fan but it doesn't bother me really.
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Understand they are different companies and I appreciate that you take the time to interact with the collectorate (and don't loose it like AK does ). The thing is once you have the mould isn't the design of the livery the time consuming / costly thing, so regardless of how many models AC produce they still have the same upfront costs as Gemini (except for the generic boxes). That's why it surprises me that Gemini are so conservative with releases especially given the corporate safety net $$. I understand why GJ makes lots of similar models - not a big fan but it doesn't bother me really.
You are missing something, but we all are except for the people inside those companies. It really does seem like Aeroclassics can get away with smaller production runs than Gemini can. Their business models are different. Exactly why that is, is hard to say. But that will make it harder for Gemini to produce some obscure things that only appeal to a handful of people.
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Finally a Lufthansa A340 from Gemini, after a decade of waiting and praying. The rest is as usual, nothing important.
Negus 732 is there on ebay and is not the most horribly rare model as well as AA757, can't they just release a friggin Landor 737-400?!
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At least the AC release has the correct size roof titles. These are slightly too big on this GJ version and should start after the first two windows, not be aligned with the front window. They made the same mistake with their 'British' HS748 - the titles nearly touched eachother on top of the roof!

Nothing new of interest to me this month - my money will go to Aeroclassics for sure.
Well I guess there's still time to correct that, given that these are sample pics. That in itself would annoy me less than the blue coming up too high. Of the three Negus 732's Aeroclassics released, only the 'British Airways' one looks correct. Hmmm...maybe Gemini could have a go at the silver top too, and in a finish that doesn't look as chrome as the AC. The real aircraft certainly wasn't polished chrome either.
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Finally a Lufthansa A340 from Gemini, after a decade of waiting and praying. The rest is as usual, nothing important.
Negus 732 is there on ebay and is not the most horribly rare model as well as AA757, can't they just release a friggin Landor 737-400?!
Landor narrow bodies are badly needed, the 734 and 752 being prime examples, I'd also love a 742 on Gemini's latest mould, and hey a BOAC 741 too ! Did I mention my post signature yet ?
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