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Old 03-22-2014, 05:43 AM   #1
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Which manufacturer makes the best model of SAS Scandinvanian Airlines A340-300? Phoenix or AeroClassics? I collect primarily on aircraft I have flown with, so I am searching for the best model of this aircraft.


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Old 03-22-2014, 07:44 AM   #2
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They are both good. If you don't care about minute/unimportant details, go for the one you can get for cheaper.
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Hi giremann. Im my humble opinion the Phoenix A340 is better...their mould (to me) just looks right for the A340. Also, their small detailing is better than Aeroclassics-for example Phoenix adds the outli es of the thrust reverser doors to their engines. On the SAS model, you'll also notice that the real aircraft has no silver area on the wings, and no silver framing around the cockpit windows, just as Phoenix has done it.

In this respect, Aeroclassics has it wrong.

BUT...Please bear in mind that Phoenix has a reputation for very poor quality control.

I hope that helps!
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I have an AeroClassics and a Phoenix A330 in my collection.
I think the PHX colour match is slightly more accurate - but only just.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:42 PM   #5
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Thank you all for your respond.

I have flown with SAS A340 more than 30 times. Last time, just two weeks ago on a flight (OY-KBA) between BKK and CPH. My first choice is also the Phoenix model, but this model is impossible to find available for a ok price. AeroClassic model is available a few places, so I think I will end up with this one. If Phoenix model shows up later, I will buy that one too. Maybe some of you knows a shop, who can have this Phoenix model available?
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I have had both of these, and while I think the Aeroclassics mould for the A340 is superior to the Phoenix (particularly the cockpit area), in this case the colors of the Phoenix match the real aircraft much more closely. On the AC version the engines look too orange to me, and the 'Airlines' print is almost invisible on the fuselage.
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Aeroclassics definately any day. It's the far superior mould.
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giremann - you are a junior collector, just start and do your own research - compare actual pictures with the pictures from the model and you will find if they did a good research. Personal I agree with thamesradar PX mold is better, and additional because AC has severe wrong printings. NOGO is for me the wrong wing printing, this is a big issue, also the missing engine printing and cockpit frames are obvious mistakes. PX A343 is not perfect, nose wheel door is oversized, but the rest is far better than AC
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:31 PM   #9
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Thanks a lot for your comments om my enquiry about SAS A340 Aircraft. Sadly Phoenix is right now impossible to find for sale. I plan to take a phonecall to SAS at Oslo airport tomorrow and ask what 1:400 models they have available for sale.

EizieItall. Yes I am new into this. I have actually just start to collect 1:400 models and bought my first two models at Toy Studio in Bangkok, just 3 weeks ago. So far I have collect five of the aircrafts I have flown with and a few more is on its way. All Phoenix platinum models except Thai Airways MD11 in 1990 colors who is from Gemini Jets.

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Ordered the Iberia A340-300 from Phoenix a few days good. Looks fantastic!
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giremann - you are a junior collector, just start and do your own research - compare actual pictures with the pictures from the model and you will find if they did a good research. Personal I agree with thamesradar PX mold is better, and additional because AC has severe wrong printings. NOGO is for me the wrong wing printing, this is a big issue, also the missing engine printing and cockpit frames are obvious mistakes. PX A343 is not perfect, nose wheel door is oversized, but the rest is far better than AC
Coming from the PH spokesman, your "far better" analysis is rejected out of hand!
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How are the winglets of AC A330/340s compared to PHXs? Are they thin and the correct shape, or lumpy and rounded like GJ's 744 winglets?
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:22 AM   #13
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There's obviously no clear winner here. Both are equally good, both have their flaws. Just get the one you like better or the one you can obtain more easily/cheaply. If you really cannot decide, get both!
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Phoenix is always the best.
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Mould wise i vote AC!

AC SQ Celestar A343


Phx SQ 50th A343


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Definitely Phoenix, I shall not consider Aeroclassic model again due to lacking of customer support and fragile and inferior landing gears issue.
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Definitely Phoenix, I shall not consider Aeroclassic model again due to lacking of customer support and fragile and inferior landing gears issue.
You had the issue with the A320 right? Didn't Andrew himself i.e. Mr Aeroclassics, offer you a free fix which you then made very difficult for him? I think his offer (especially given his usual temper) was very generous and far more than you're likely to get from Phoenix. Especially so since its really not for the manufacturer to fix broken gear issues but the retailer.

I might also add that Phoenix are renowned for having easily breakable landing gear. With rolling gears it simply goes with the territory. I suggest that if its a problem you buy Dragon and Gemini whose gears are **** but chunky.

Regarding these moulds they both look great but the thing about Aeroclassics A340s is the cockpit windows are nowhere near as well printed as the Phoenix (which is ironic considering Phoenix printing on their narrowbodies).
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You had the issue with the A320 right? Didn't Andrew himself i.e. Mr Aeroclassics, offer you a free fix which you then made very difficult for him? I think his offer (especially given his usual temper) was very generous and far more than you're likely to get from Phoenix. Especially so since its really not for the manufacturer to fix broken gear issues but the retailer.

I might also add that Phoenix are renowned for having easily breakable landing gear. With rolling gears it simply goes with the territory. I suggest that if its a problem you buy Dragon and Gemini whose gears are **** but chunky.

Regarding these moulds they both look great but the thing about Aeroclassics A340s is the cockpit windows are nowhere near as well printed as the Phoenix (which is ironic considering Phoenix printing on their narrowbodies).
I had a few units of Phoenix model and are still in good condition. Last month I bought a new Phoenix Dragonair A321. After the incidence, I took the mould to compare with it with the A320 with the broken gears. These description are based on my findings.

The expression to offer for repair without any form of proper contact is a form poor customer support. Anyone can express that but without the right channel and so on it is deemed meaningless. Besides that, free replacement and repair was never mentioned despite repeatedly requested what is the estimated cost. There's no point I leave the model with my friend in China too while such chances seems slim in this case. In view of that no respond from the manufacturer, I tried to contact few dealers in Hong Kong and Malaysia, they got a shocked to know that if such offer is genuine, asked me to update them if such problem is fixed as they had bad experience dealings with this manufacturer too.
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Definitely buy Phoenix, I have a KLM A330 made by them...
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Yes, your choice is following your others models.
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the thing about Aeroclassics A340s is the cockpit windows are nowhere near as well printed as the Phoenix
You really think so Richard? I think the AC printing usually captures the look of the 1:1 more accurately.
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You really think so Richard? I think the AC printing usually captures the look of the 1:1 more accurately.


Yep for me the AC A340 windows are too close together and too small.
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I had a few units of Phoenix model and are still in good condition. Last month I bought a new Phoenix Dragonair A321. After the incidence, I took the mould to compare with it with the A320 with the broken gears. These description are based on my findings.

The expression to offer for repair without any form of proper contact is a form poor customer support. Anyone can express that but without the right channel and so on it is deemed meaningless. Besides that, free replacement and repair was never mentioned despite repeatedly requested what is the estimated cost. There's no point I leave the model with my friend in China too while such chances seems slim in this case. In view of that no respond from the manufacturer, I tried to contact few dealers in Hong Kong and Malaysia, they got a shocked to know that if such offer is genuine, asked me to update them if such problem is fixed as they had bad experience dealings with this manufacturer too.
If you say so but I would say the manufacturer was doing you a favour and had no need to replace the gear for you at all. If you think Phoenix would have fixed the gear I think you are living in la la land. Plus ascribing your one issue with a second-hand model to all Aeroclassics is ludicrous and a massive over-reaction.

Of my over 800 models over 60% are Aeroclassics and with such small models from time to time there will be broken gear issues, but they are not caused by the manufacturer or their methods and it is silly to blame them. I have a lot less Phoenix but have had issues with their gears too.

Generally I can say that Aeroclassics make better models than Phoenix and certainly nobody on here is starting threads complaining about Quality Control at Aeroclassics - unlike Phoenix when a new thread pops up every other week. I doubt AC will miss your custom much!
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Phoenix forgot one important detail. Gear door on the middle main gear.
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Aeroclassics mould is better than PHX and GJ have correct engine shape.
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Aeroclassics has incorrect cockpit shape and awful cockpit windows. Get rid of the black outline Aero!

Phoenix has the best A340 mould, closest to the real deal and their paint tones are always more accurate than AC's.

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